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mwzera is miles ahead of TenZ and cNed (proof here

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#1
trembolonaRage

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/GL%20mwzera%232001/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches)
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

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in my opinion, tenz/cned. are better because they played in the world

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joaosgreva
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0/8

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0/8

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akami
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muzera is insane but he still needs to prove himself in a master

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thegoat
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Mezera isn't bad but sorry ratio you're so wrong.

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starscream
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Him stats good cuz BR community is so bad, Others stats bad cuz EU/NA community is playing well

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edtheking12
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stats dont matter especially ranked stats. As much as i hate Tenz, he s the best player in the world until we see what happens in berlin

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CrimsonPrid3
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-8/8

#10
indi_getrektson
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DM and Ranked stats to back this up... really?

#11
trembolonaRage
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starscream [#7]

Him stats good cuz BR community is so bad, Others stats bad cuz EU/NA community is playing well

not true

VKS players said EU players are far worse in aim

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trembolonaRage
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thegoat [#6]

Mezera isn't bad but sorry ratio you're so wrong.

How so?

I provided evidence to back up what I said

#13
Itsover
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Lower hs % than me, sorry man but he's noob im better

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starscream
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trembolonaRage [#11]

not true

VKS players said EU players are far worse in aim

facts

#15
joaosgreva
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trembolonaRage [#12]

How so?

I provided evidence to back up what I said

champions tour has nothing to do with these stats LUL

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yana-banana
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Man you are talking like everyone treats ranked and dm so seriously. I tuned in to watch one of Tyson's stream man is literally trolling full running and gunning playing ranked but he is having fun. He doesn't take this seriously. Wherad others sweat through their dms TenZ plays like marshall only or sheriff only dms.
Also ranked is such a random thing with random teammates. I am not sure if you are being serious right here.🤔

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Itsover
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trembolonaRage [#11]

not true

VKS players said EU players are far worse in aim

Vks got 13 rounds total vs Liquid, I know you are trolling but next time try harder

#18
trembolonaRage
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edtheking12 [#8]

stats dont matter especially ranked stats. As much as i hate Tenz, he s the best player in the world until we see what happens in berlin

INDIVIDUALLY speaking, mwzera is better than him

SEN > GL tho

#19
trembolonaRage
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indi_getrektson [#10]

DM and Ranked stats to back this up... really?

what's wrong with it?

I'm not analyzing TEAMS, but PLAYERS

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trembolonaRage
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yana-banana [#16]

Man you are talking like everyone treats ranked and dm so seriously. I tuned in to watch one of Tyson's stream man is literally trolling full running and gunning playing ranked but he is having fun. He doesn't take this seriously. Wherad others sweat through their dms TenZ plays like marshall only or sheriff only dms.
Also ranked is such a random thing with random teammates. I am not sure if you are being serious right here.🤔

mwzera also has these 'relax and funny moments' while playing, thats not a fair excuse....

when you are so talented like mwzera is, doesnt matter if you play trolling, laughing or whatever, if you are REALLY talented, you will have stats like him...

#21
juraf
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wow mwzera good at smurfing very cool mens

#22
indi_getrektson
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trembolonaRage [#19]

what's wrong with it?

I'm not analyzing TEAMS, but PLAYERS

stats cannot be directly translated to how good a player is, sure it can be an indicator but it barely scratches the surface.

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SamTheGreat47
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BRO MWERZA IS PLAYING AGAINST BOTS
br players are ass compared to na and eu which is why they got shit on in reykjavik and will get shit on in berlin

#24
ShiningTyGuy
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Dude your obsession with him is a bit worrying and has clearly made you somewhat delusional.

#25
trembolonaRage
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SamTheGreat47 [#23]

BRO MWERZA IS PLAYING AGAINST BOTS
br players are ass compared to na and eu which is why they got shit on in reykjavik and will get shit on in berlin

thats not true

VKS players said EU players has far worse aim than brazilians

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trembolonaRage
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ShiningTyGuy [#24]

Dude your obsession with him is a bit worrying and has clearly made you somewhat delusional.

you can't argue with stats

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yana-banana
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trembolonaRage [#20]

mwzera also has these 'relax and funny moments' while playing, thats not a fair excuse....

when you are so talented like mwzera is, doesnt matter if you play trolling, laughing or whatever, if you are REALLY talented, you will have stats like him...

I don't want to take away anything from him don't get me wrong. But you are literally analysing ranked stats. I repeat ranked stats. Which is so random. You might get a good team with pros or just gamers that doesn't know shit. Actually who cares if you win or not. That doesn't determine your capabilities as a player.
What I do is watching professional matches and seeing how different teams and players approach the game how they play off each other. Then i make comparisons. But in this case since this match up didn't happen you can't take this thread seriously. Thats why most people think that you are baiting...

#28
ShiningTyGuy
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trembolonaRage [#26]

you can't argue with stats

And how many uncontrollable variables are included in the stats you provided? Your literally delusional if you think ranked and dm stats back up your argument.

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yana-banana
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trembolonaRage [#25]

thats not true

VKS players said EU players has far worse aim than brazilians

And brazilians has far worse tactics/approach to the game.

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trembolonaRage
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yana-banana [#29]

And brazilians has far worse tactics/approach to the game.

yes thats true, sadly...

#31
ShiningTyGuy
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trembolonaRage [#20]

mwzera also has these 'relax and funny moments' while playing, thats not a fair excuse....

when you are so talented like mwzera is, doesnt matter if you play trolling, laughing or whatever, if you are REALLY talented, you will have stats like him...

Stats like what, not being able to win officials?

#32
sye1
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Another clown post

#33
Raevus
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ShiningTyGuy [#31]

Stats like what, not being able to win officials?

dw bro, we'll see Mwzera show how good he is at berlin. Oh wait...

#34
senith
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No way you back up your arguments with stats from DEATHMATCH and RANKED lmfao

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trembolonaRage
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ShiningTyGuy [#31]

Stats like what, not being able to win officials?

his team is bad but his stats are insane

have u checked stats tab? biggest acs to date

#36
Raevus
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trembolonaRage [#26]

you can't argue with stats

argue with stats? Why not argue with accomplishments? Tenz has won 2 masters, mwzera has won 0. cned won 1 masters, mwzera 0.

you're arguing with stats against random players, and dm is stupid to try to judge something off of.

Hell, look at his stats in the past 2 months. Dude is apparently this godsend, but played dogshit in playoffs.

No doubt mwzera is an insane player. however, you can't compare someone who hasn't won anything, with someone who has lost 3 competitive this whole year.

Paper stats mean nothing, especially when it's against randoms in pubs. It's like me playing cs and saying I got 500,000 kills on a stattrack ak that I got in a dm, over a pro player just because he doesn't have that. It's meaningless.

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trembolonaRage
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Raevus [#36]

argue with stats? Why not argue with accomplishments? Tenz has won 2 masters, mwzera has won 0. cned won 1 masters, mwzera 0.

you're arguing with stats against random players, and dm is stupid to try to judge something off of.

Hell, look at his stats in the past 2 months. Dude is apparently this godsend, but played dogshit in playoffs.

No doubt mwzera is an insane player. however, you can't compare someone who hasn't won anything, with someone who has lost 3 competitive this whole year.

Paper stats mean nothing, especially when it's against randoms in pubs. It's like me playing cs and saying I got 500,000 kills on a stattrack ak that I got in a dm, over a pro player just because he doesn't have that. It's meaningless.

Because GL is a far worse team than ACE and SEN

mwzera has way better stats than both cned and tenz, despite his bad team...

#38
wanted
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compare stats from actual comp matches, yk where matches are actually played.

#39
Noone12
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This post is so garbage is should get deleted.

#40
Itsover
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trembolonaRage [#25]

thats not true

VKS players said EU players has far worse aim than brazilians

You are coping too hard

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kapteN
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trembolonaRage [#37]

Because GL is a far worse team than ACE and SEN

mwzera has way better stats than both cned and tenz, despite his bad team...

In a much less competitive region.

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yana-banana
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trembolonaRage [#37]

Because GL is a far worse team than ACE and SEN

mwzera has way better stats than both cned and tenz, despite his bad team...

If you look at fucking ranked and dm. If you wanna see stats so badly watch it here. With your logic Forsaken and SkRossi are the best player ever in valorant bcuz of stats obvi.

(Don't worry guys, its just seems like he doesn't understand it)

#43
Revan
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trembolonaRage [#18]

INDIVIDUALLY speaking, mwzera is better than him

SEN > GL tho

This is some of the stupidest shit I see from poeple. TenZ is on Sentinels meaning he is a part of Sentinels and he is their best player.

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Revan
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edtheking12 [#8]

stats dont matter especially ranked stats. As much as i hate Tenz, he s the best player in the world until we see what happens in berlin

You "hate" TenZ? That's actually toxic because he has never done anything inhuman. I'm not saying you have to like him but HATE him. Wow!!!

#45
HaSanity
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i would agree with you but mwzera come to berlin plissss

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EdmondN1
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/536/champions-tour-brazil-stage-3-challengers-playoffs/main-event

Where is your dear mwzera's team? Already knocked out?

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leleuu
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trembolonaRage [#20]

mwzera also has these 'relax and funny moments' while playing, thats not a fair excuse....

when you are so talented like mwzera is, doesnt matter if you play trolling, laughing or whatever, if you are REALLY talented, you will have stats like him...

Falou merda tu ja viu o muzera no dm, o mlk da muito a vida, fica full pistola se perde

#48
andreyoliveira7
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Itsover [#17]

Vks got 13 rounds total vs Liquid, I know you are trolling but next time try harder

Sacy said that about EU ranked players

#49
andreyoliveira7
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Training is training, ranked is ranked and real games are real games. When GL changes their way to play, MW will shine again

#50
cripsy
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Nt

#51
ShiningTyGuy
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trembolonaRage [#35]

his team is bad but his stats are insane

have u checked stats tab? biggest acs to date

He's still not winning. He's 15th on the list in the past 90 days, why is that?

#52
chimpy
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trembolonaRage [#18]

INDIVIDUALLY speaking, mwzera is better than him

SEN > GL tho

No

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edtheking12
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Revan [#44]

You "hate" TenZ? That's actually toxic because he has never done anything inhuman. I'm not saying you have to like him but HATE him. Wow!!!

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

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hiyo
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yana-banana [#29]

And brazilians has far worse tactics/approach to the game.

there is no tactics in ranked

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Sims4proplayer
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edtheking12 [#53]

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

I mean Tenz fans are actually annoying. But hating Tenz because of his fans seems a bit over the line. I dont like Sen(mostly because they are good and Im all in for underdog stories) but Tenz seems like nice and humble guy

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GetsystheGr8
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Ranked = Luck
Plus he plays in a T3 region

#57
trembolonaRage
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GetsystheGr8 [#56]

Ranked = Luck
Plus he plays in a T3 region

sometimes, yes

but when u have like 400 ranked games, 65% winrate and mvp of 85% of them
its no luck, its talent

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SETSUZA
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yes poiz is better than all the na players going to Berlin because his ranked stats are higher

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Raevus
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trembolonaRage [#37]

Because GL is a far worse team than ACE and SEN

mwzera has way better stats than both cned and tenz, despite his bad team...

bro, compare recent stats. Cned having nearly 300acs with more games on Jett played than mwzera. Tenz 7 games more than mwzera, and 0.05 acs less. That's also in the most competitive region.

Hell, look at the last game all 3 played. mwzera bottling it against vivo, going 53-57. Tenz last match against 100t in a bo5 he went 75-55. His last bo3 he went 34-16.
cNeds last bo3 he went 63-40 against Gambit.

Even then, brazil is by far not as competitive as EU or NA. Case in point the best brz team got 13 rounds against liquid, and sen. Sharks who were the 2nd best at the time, were sent home after taking 1 map the whole event.

At least when tenz was on c9, he was performing insane on the most competitive region in the game. He then went on to prove himself at iceland. Mwzera is not in the most competitive region, and is a standout player. He is insane. Better than tenz or cned, not by far. His oping isn't nearly as dominant as cNeds is either.

His team does let him down. he does deserve better than GLB can give him. however using ranked stats, and his stats in a weaker competitive region, is moronic. Ranked means nothing in this game. zero. zilch. Nada. So using that is just a was to cope with the fact that mwzera is not going to be at an international lan this year.

also in regards to stats against cned. he's barley above him with 2600 rounds less played than cNed. You can't compare the Jett at all. you can only compare him and Tenz, because of the use of different agents. Even then, the competition is each region, is bounds apart from eachother. Trying to believe that brz is a better region than eu/na based off vikings, a team who only ever beat x10, said so. Is just hilarious.

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I can't tell if this is a joke. Always being the match MVP means ur not playing against good players. Which means that the region ur in isnt a good region.

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ranker11
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skrossi better !!!!!

#62
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trembolonaRage [#57]

sometimes, yes

but when u have like 400 ranked games, 65% winrate and mvp of 85% of them
its no luck, its talent

tenz would drop 30 bomb every game in bronzil lmao

#63
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GTN FTW!!!!

#64
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TBH I think I'm better than mwzera. on my silver 1 smurf account I can get match mvp a lot of the time against silvers, while mwzera only plays against bronzil players

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Itsover [#13]

Lower hs % than me, sorry man but he's noob im better

https://youtu.be/0zkz6djMHIc

him rn

#66
tinted
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this guy really pulled out the dm winrates

#67
arzuluvkitty
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deathmatch bro
really

#68
NEYMAR
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hiyo [#54]

there is no tactics in ranked

Exactly, ranked has no tactics. That's why Sharks and VKS players said EU ranked was easier than BR.

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NEYMAR
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I understand what you mean my friend, his talent is on par with those guys, but unless we put him on higher competitive enviroment, facing the best teams in the world, we can't actually say that he is better. He has to play this well against better competition to prove himself, maybe he is ranked god, cause his aim and instinct is that good, but when put into a highly tactical match with the top teams he can't perform well, we don't know, and we have to be able to tell before saying he is better, TenZ and cNed proved themselves on very tactical and competitive enviroment, mwzera didn't, we don't know what to expect when that really happens.

You can't say he is better, but you can say he has more potential or is more talented. If he was in a great team like G2 or ENVY or 100T and had the time to practice against the strong competition he could become better than those players, this is the correct statement.

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NEYMAR [#69]

I understand what you mean my friend, his talent is on par with those guys, but unless we put him on higher competitive enviroment, facing the best teams in the world, we can't actually say that he is better. He has to play this well against better competition to prove himself, maybe he is ranked god, cause his aim and instinct is that good, but when put into a highly tactical match with the top teams he can't perform well, we don't know, and we have to be able to tell before saying he is better, TenZ and cNed proved themselves on very tactical and competitive enviroment, mwzera didn't, we don't know what to expect when that really happens.

You can't say he is better, but you can say he has more potential or is more talented. If he was in a great team like G2 or ENVY or 100T and had the time to practice against the strong competition he could become better than those players, this is the correct statement.

Neymar always based

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HeyClassic
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Revan [#43]

This is some of the stupidest shit I see from poeple. TenZ is on Sentinels meaning he is a part of Sentinels and he is their best player.

It can be argued that he isn't the best on the team, just the flashiest

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I think that mwzera is on the same situation that Tenz was. He's a insane player but in the wrong team. Brazil started this year to create superteams that can compete against his aim (let'sbe fair, most of the fame from Gamelanders came from his perfomance in the tournaments). He still needs to show that same skill in international competition. Tenz proved, cNed literally are in the most competitive region rn and proved himself, mwzera are stuck in the probably third most competitive region. So without proofs, we can't argue if he's the best or not, just wait.

#73
ms0ra
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SKROSSI > MWZERA
KEWK

#74
Revan
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edtheking12 [#53]

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

Me? Why because I told you that hating someone for no realistic reason is toxic? So you hate someone who has nothing to do with me?

#75
Revan
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Sims4proplayer [#55]

I mean Tenz fans are actually annoying. But hating Tenz because of his fans seems a bit over the line. I dont like Sen(mostly because they are good and Im all in for underdog stories) but Tenz seems like nice and humble guy

Throughout my time in the Valo community, I've seen more poeple saying TenZ fans are annoying than actual TenZ fans being overly annoying

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Revan
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HeyClassic [#71]

It can be argued that he isn't the best on the team, just the flashiest

TenZ is actually one of the least flashy best players out there. He just remains completely consistent and his skill makes people actually think he is just "flashy". Saying something is flashy means it has no impact and that's not true. He is definitely their best player by the words of the players and other pros, not even my word

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trembolonaRage [#18]

INDIVIDUALLY speaking, mwzera is better than him

SEN > GL tho

he need to prove this first in international tournament and facing the best team around the world, as long as he only played in regional tournament, you can't say he is better than tenz, cned or even derke. surely he had potential and the talent is there, but he need to prove it before calling him something. this is similiar case with indian player skrossi who had insane stats but as long as he only played in india, no one will admit it.

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EdmondN1 [#46]

https://www.vlr.gg/event/536/champions-tour-brazil-stage-3-challengers-playoffs/main-event

Where is your dear mwzera's team? Already knocked out?

his team didn't even made it through the first round of both brackets smh
and this dude telling mwzera's better than a guy who has won every single fucking major he played in

#79
Xaster15
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edtheking12 [#53]

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

IDIOT

#80
WinterBlac
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bronzera ?

#81
arzuluvkitty
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trembolonaRage [#19]

what's wrong with it?

I'm not analyzing TEAMS, but PLAYERS

but no one tryhard in dm....so do you tell me if i use op and shotgun the whole of dm i can be the world best?

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arzuluvkitty [#81]

but no one tryhard in dm....so do you tell me if i use op and shotgun the whole of dm i can be the world best?

maybe hahaha

#83
trembolonaRage
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ck347 [#78]

his team didn't even made it through the first round of both brackets smh
and this dude telling mwzera's better than a guy who has won every single fucking major he played in

his team is bad...

#84
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LMFAO if pugs mattered, every ranked demon would've been better for VCT Champions

#85
DONALDTRUMPFORLIFE
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Bonkar better

#86
ShadowisBAD
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delusional take . STOP DEFENDING Mwzera , LET THE RESULTS SHOW .,

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#88
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edtheking12 [#53]

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

I have no idea how u hate tenz but ok

#89
since_beta
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dumb take

#90
peppreish
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edtheking12 [#53]

yeah i hate tenz because of people like you.

if u hate someone because of their fans, you are even less intelligent and less coherent than the fans themselves

#91
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trembolonaRage /8

#92
ChowChow
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I think the dead person comeback alive.
Whoever bump this thread must be a little kid TenZ fan

#93
archetype
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STATS

#94
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The legendary post that must never die

#95
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9 months ago! Wtf

#96
77hayate
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trembolonaRage [#95]

9 months ago! Wtf

9 more posts for 3000 are u illuminati?
what does all this 9's mean???

#97
nutab1e
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trembolonaRage [#95]

9 months ago! Wtf

what accomplishments has KEKWzera achieved since this post?

#98
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🗿

#99
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Guelry [#2]

in my opinion, tenz/cned. are better because they played in the world

Where are TenZ and CNed now?

Mwzera is the 2nd Duelist of Brazil.

Trembo was right 🥶

#100
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Mca [#99]

Where are TenZ and CNed now?

Mwzera is the 2nd Duelist of Brazil.

Trembo was right 🥶

both have more masters wins than mwzera

#101
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where cned and tenz now?
mwzera on top

#102
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Mca [#99]

Where are TenZ and CNed now?

Mwzera is the 2nd Duelist of Brazil.

Trembo was right 🥶

Well, FUT's a better team than Furia

#103
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michaelisupset [#100]

both have more masters wins than mwzera

Not quite, one has masters and one is a world champion technically

#104
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This post made trembo the greatest VLR user in history

#105
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harvard level analysis 🗿

#106
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NoOne_ButMe [#101]

where cned and tenz now?
mwzera on top

mwzera on top

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common Trembolona L 0/8

#108
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Guelry [#2]

in my opinion, tenz/cned. are better because they played in the world

STATS

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/VK%20mwzera%234324/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches) proof here https://imgur.com/StiJmpg
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is RAZE. There is a BIG difference between a good duelist and a jett abuser
If he is a good duelist, he needs to be good with raze.

heat? not good with raze
aspas? not good with raze
xand? not good with raze
tenz? not good with raze
cned? not good with raze
scream? not good with raze
d3ffo? not good with raze
derke? not good with raze

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined VK he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even steel managed to get 20 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/29398/sentinels-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-gf/?game=46692&tab=overview

#109
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STATS

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/VK%20mwzera%234324/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches) proof here https://imgur.com/StiJmpg
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is RAZE. There is a BIG difference between a good duelist and a jett abuser
If he is a good duelist, he needs to be good with raze.

heat? not good with raze
aspas? not good with raze
xand? not good with raze
tenz? not good with raze
cned? not good with raze
scream? not good with raze
d3ffo? not good with raze
derke? not good with raze

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined VK he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even steel managed to get 20 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/29398/sentinels-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-gf/?game=46692&tab=overview

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