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How many Sen players are top 10 ITW atm

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#1
cboomer

Tenz best smokes zekken best entry atm

Johnqt ranks where as an IGL?

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top 3

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Zerphyr1
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cope, johnqt is probably 5-7th in terms of igl

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MneMaloMaloMaloTebya
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ummmm none of them..

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yukky
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It for sure takes a top 3 igl to take SEN out of the dumps but also frag tf out

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Zerphyr1 [#3]

cope, johnqt is probably 5-7th in terms of igl

cope + flair

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Zerphyr1
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yukky [#6]

cope + flair

cope + flair

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MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#4]

ummmm none of them..

id say zekken is Top 10 in the game rn u cant name 10 better players

Tenz top 5 omen (not as a controller strictly omen so dont get upset lmfao)

John Top 10 IGL in the game rn

thats it.

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As much as i respect Tenz u cant really call him best smokes player when he only plays Omen. He's in contention for best omen sure but only playing omen makes it a bit hard to call him best in role

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Senfanboy
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I would say zekken top 5, johnqt top 3, and tenz top 3(omen only, not controller)

As a controller tenz doesn't make top 20 due to him only playing omen

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tenz is not even in the convos for best controller, he only plays omen. Good player but I wouldn't even put him top 15-20 of smokes players worldwide.

Johnqt maybe top 10 IGL, not even top 5

Zekken likely in that convos for top 10 players though

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TeoEmil
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cboomer [#12]

Yes he is

Bro forgot about tomaszy, less and d4v1

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ArtemisZ083
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yukky [#6]

cope + flair

bro is that asuna yuuki?

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ItsHunter
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messithegoat [#2]

top 3

I'd say fs he's in the top 3 at least currently. Maybe even top 1 👀
He's almost as good as Fns at calling and is a Fragger AND beat saadhak? Bro he's a goat
Tenz probably best smokes it's at least that qualified for Madrid
Zekken isnt best entry but he's up there

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ItsHunter
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Shawn23 [#8]

id say zekken is Top 10 in the game rn u cant name 10 better players

Tenz top 5 omen (not as a controller strictly omen so dont get upset lmfao)

John Top 10 IGL in the game rn

thats it.

A lot of controllers literally only play omen tho so it's still pretty valid
Or you could say one of the best flex

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ItsHunter
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whysoup [#10]

As much as i respect Tenz u cant really call him best smokes player when he only plays Omen. He's in contention for best omen sure but only playing omen makes it a bit hard to call him best in role

Best in omen is good enough for me

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Senfanboy [#13]

I would say zekken top 5, johnqt top 3, and tenz top 3(omen only, not controller)

As a controller tenz doesn't make top 20 due to him only playing omen

A lot of smokes players only play omen tho so it's still pretty valid to call him at the very least top 5 or 8 controllers cause I rlly wouldn't be able to name many others. Also omen players who aren't smokes mains are typically flex

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ItsHunter
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MerkFreeks [#14]

tenz is not even in the convos for best controller, he only plays omen. Good player but I wouldn't even put him top 15-20 of smokes players worldwide.

Johnqt maybe top 10 IGL, not even top 5

Zekken likely in that convos for top 10 players though

Name me 15 better smokes players. Even him being on omen alone he's definitely in at least top 10 controllers. There aren't many good ones out there
Johnqt is at the very least top 5 igl itw, his calling is only slightly worse than FNS, he brought back a dead team to become a contender for an international title, and he even frags and consistently closes out rounds. What more could you ask for?

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TeoEmil [#15]

Bro forgot about tomaszy, less and d4v1

2 out of these 3 literally aren’t even their teams’ main smokes player

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heistheoneandonly
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ItsHunter [#19]

There are 3 consistentlt top 3 smokes being marved mako pancada and currently tenz is playing even more consistent than the 3 of them other than arguably mako
He's definitely top 1 omen itw rn

sorry to burst ur bubble but none of those three have been top 3 itw other than mako since 2022

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ItsHunter [#22]

Name me 15 better smokes players. Even him being on omen alone he's definitely in at least top 10 controllers. There aren't many good ones out there
Johnqt is at the very least top 5 igl itw, his calling is only slightly worse than FNS, he brought back a dead team to become a contender for an international title, and he even frags and consistently closes out rounds. What more could you ask for?

his calling is nowhere near fns level lol

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Ha4dy
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Zerphyr1 [#7]

cope + flair

one won the kickoff and the other is winless.. its clear whos coping here

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smthlikeyou11
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we will know after madrid its too soon to jump to conclusions

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WhatADrag
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ItsHunter [#17]

I'd say fs he's in the top 3 at least currently. Maybe even top 1 👀
He's almost as good as Fns at calling and is a Fragger AND beat saadhak? Bro he's a goat
Tenz probably best smokes it's at least that qualified for Madrid
Zekken isnt best entry but he's up there

"Zekken isnt best entry" is an understatement.

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WhatADrag
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Zerphyr1 [#3]

cope, johnqt is probably 5-7th in terms of igl

a braindead person is smarter than you

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skibidiyesyes
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Zekken for sure, the rest idk not really.

#31
Zerphyr1
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WhatADrag [#29]

a braindead person is smarter than you

his igling skills are incredible don't get me wrong but I didn't see people calling johnqt a top 3 igl last year. His ability to igl has barely changed but it's only now that he's in a good system that people are saying he's a top 3 igl.

People don't realise that team chemistry and a teams player, role and coaching system is a lot more important and will help win games more often when compared to a very good igl.

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_Esdeath_
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rynxe [#23]

2 out of these 3 literally aren’t even their teams’ main smokes player

Not even 2 its all of them lmao.
Shin is main smokes for kc
Mindfreak for prx
Tuyz for loud
Teoemil didn't cook

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Kk0bra1101
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Zelleis top 5 flex for me
Zekken is definitely top 10 overall
Sacy's gekko is atleast top 3
And tenz can't really be considered a controller player but he's still a top 3 omen player rn, can't say the same for his other agents tho
And John is atleast top 5 both as an IGL and a sentinel,ranking him any lower is BS

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LouBag
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When Sacy is your worst player you know you have a great team.

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Zerphyr1 [#3]

cope, johnqt is probably 5-7th in terms of igl

cmon man he outcalled boostio for the most part, read saadhak several times which is pretty insane for a rookie t1 player and frags better than 90% of other IGLs

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TheAceGamer30
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Zerphyr1 [#3]

cope, johnqt is probably 5-7th in terms of igl

Delusional

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TheAceGamer30
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ItsHunter [#19]

There are 3 consistentlt top 3 smokes being marved mako pancada and currently tenz is playing even more consistent than the 3 of them other than arguably mako
He's definitely top 1 omen itw rn

Tenz diffed mako

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yukky
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ArtemisZ083 [#16]

bro is that asuna yuuki?

???

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MerkFreeks [#14]

tenz is not even in the convos for best controller, he only plays omen. Good player but I wouldn't even put him top 15-20 of smokes players worldwide.

Johnqt maybe top 10 IGL, not even top 5

Zekken likely in that convos for top 10 players though

ur on something for sure, if we are looking at current stats and performances, john is 100% top 5 IGL and tenz is definitely so far the best omen and zekken is top 5 entry fragger, zekken and tenz quite literally dicked ur team to the ground

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yukky
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All SEN players top 3 in their roles.

#41
IsaaaValorant
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gonna say probably just zekken top 10 right now but that’s just because SEN is such a good team that they can elevate each other to also have good individual performances. TenZ probably arguably top 10 also, all the others lag a bit behind, JohnQt very good IGL not necessarily a top 10 level fragger, Zellsis is the best Vibes Guy in the world, Sacy probably best support initiator but most of the time not a top 10 fragger (only top 10 on sova imo) thanks for coming to my ted talk.

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smthlikeyou11 [#25]

his calling is nowhere near fns level lol

he isnt that far off, the only thing john doesnt call are fakes and he gets a bit predictable if the match keeps going but that can be fixed + his fragging just makes up for the lack of experience as a t1 IGL

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Kk0bra1101 [#33]

Zelleis top 5 flex for me
Zekken is definitely top 10 overall
Sacy's gekko is atleast top 3
And tenz can't really be considered a controller player but he's still a top 3 omen player rn, can't say the same for his other agents tho
And John is atleast top 5 both as an IGL and a sentinel,ranking him any lower is BS

tenz is still a top yoru in bind its just that the comp is now easier to read and his kayo is good and when u look at good kayo players not many come to mind other than ethan, its a very hard agent to be consistent on

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