Thoughts on TL coach?

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~2 years with the 2nd biggest org in EMEA, and has never made a real top 5 world contending team.

like sure he has made playoffs many times in internationals, but they have always been mid and never a scary team even when they qualify for playoffs.

like drx choke a lot, but still leave a lot of impact on the tournament. liquid dont

i dont think being top 8 in the world is a bad achievement at all, but have liquid ever reached their true potential under him? (other than that emea league final)

many people might think i want to troll liquid or emil, or i am straight up hating, but i genuinely want to know what people think about him.

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doombros clears

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Final chance this year ngl

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soulcas got 3, he has another 1 left in him for sure

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what has sliggy done with scream and nivera in team
cursed org

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Almost won 2021 champs. Coach can't really help with his team just choking

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and they defeated fnc to win last season

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different coach

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definitely a fraud, fire him and hire steel to coach. easy fix

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steel is just waiting for his valve ban to expire and is then jumping back into CS. No chance

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LMAOOOO

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it already expired I thought

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ButterflyEffect23

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it expires in January 2025, on the ten-year anniversary of IBuyPower ban

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brotha is 47 years old, surely not his priority will be to be a pro once his ban is removed

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0fcuZ

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I mean they did won last year VCT EMEA no?

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no one cares about region cups. fnatic lost and obviously didnt care as they went on to tokyo to win it, while liquid bombs out as usual.

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How has nAts been ? I have not been up to date with EMEA stuffs but looking at the stats from vlr he looks completely different than I have known him.

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not even top 3 in the leuge on senti, not top 10 itw on senti, not top 20 itw in general

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still the best player in the world. a total waste on any iteration of liquid till now. he can only carry them to a few map wins, thats all. he would undoubtedly be top 5 itw if he was on a more competetive team.

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yeah and that was it. liquid always peaks at the wrong time. its either the lcq or something like the league final which basically doesnt mean a lot. and again winning once vs fnatic isnt a good enough achievement to overlook the underachievement of the team liquid roster rest of the time

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Enghh looks really solid on KC. I hope they can do some good and get him in the drivers seat

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true but relevance?

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I implied that its time for emil to leave and Liquid to get Enghh

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espeon

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considering that enghh created the current kc roster it would take a LOT for him to leave and join TL tbh, current kc has an incredible ceiling

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for the caliber of Liquid(as an organization) and the resources he's had, the results are definitely lacking. i wouldn't call him a fraud now, but i think this is the year Liquid need to win a trophy.

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yeah and fuck trophy. even if they do something like loud did last year, make top 3 multiple times in international events, even that would be impressive.

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Well... First they need to qualify...

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they probably will qualify for shanghai and then be mid again , thats the issue

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somebody said that potter could probably get better results with the same rosters TL has had. i wish we could actually run that through a simulation because I can't tell if TL is just doomed to choke or if it's genuinely a coach problem

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after seeing kick off, i was disappointed. last year TL did have issues coz of sayf and redgar clash, so i am willing to give emil another chance. i just hope he can prove me wrong this time.

who knows what potter could've done with liquid, we'll never know

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He's deffo on fraudwatch

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symbols07

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thats the right thing to do at the moment

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Older brother by 7 minutes clears

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symbols07

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they can be brothers like boo and miniboo, where both of them are solid

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zahin1018

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TL Definitely has a IGL curse. Kryptix, Scream, Redgar and now Enzo phew

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BigAbdi

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In my opinion, they should try everything to get Bonkar when he becomes available

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symbols07

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that would be such a good pickup

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Team Liquid is like the Tottenham of valorant they will never win a meaningful trophy

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true