Top 6 best players of all time

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Uncleben

Give me the best duelist, best controller, best sentinel, and best initiator, best flex, and best IGL of all time

Remember most important stat is
Consistency, being top 3 for 3 years > best for one year

Duelist: Aspas (N/A 2021, Top 2-3 2022, Top 1 2023)
Controller: Mako (top 3 top 2021, Top 1-2 2022, Top 1 2023)
Sentinel: Less (N/A 2021, Top 2 2021, Top 2 2023)
Initiator: Crashies (top 3-4 2021, top 1 2022, top 5 2023)
Idk about init Leo stax or sacy might be better
Flex: I got no clue, forsaken, victor, chronicle no clue tbh
IGL: Saadhak (N/A 2021, Top 1-2 2021, Top 3 2023)

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Uncleben

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I got no clue for flex tbh, they are by nature inconsistent: problem is chronicle didn’t make Lan in 2022 and was an init in 2021, forsaken didn’t do anything of note in 021, and was a duelist in 022

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Akukko

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Chronicle played a notable amount of Killjoy, Brim and Viper in 2021. Also Chronicle is the highest achieving player currently as he is the only player with 3 championships.

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babysasuke

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FLUKE//IN and Mickey Mouse Masters don't count for shit lmfao

No Champions for a reason

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Miting

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one round away from Champions. Then he's only one 2 times International winner, so??

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babysasuke

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Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades lil man

List of players more accomplished than this choking b0t:

Kiles
cNed
zeek
starxo
bonecold
Less
Aspas
saadhak
Sacy
Pancada
demon1
jawgemo
c0m
Ethan
Boostio

You should seethe about it

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Miting

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so Masters is nothing to you right?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Faj_UIIm8hFjvdgijR1xcPT1IH4SvJ9oTwR5cSAADOo/edit#gid=1018135910
And combine Champions and Masters by yourself, I'm sure you can:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FA9cxUC9dEBpXNjtVWEjWwvpK5PiWmxRRAxf7IfD6Cg/edit#gid=306870974

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TheAceGamer30

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Ignore them they are Americas fanboys

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Yistyy

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cumnicle is mid and got carried.

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Er3ngenes1s

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y0yster 🥂

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Uncleben

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I get wdym, but him not making a lan in 2022 really hurts him overall
I do think he is closest to being the goat flex tho

#3

cartixuzi

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Duelist: Demon1
Controller: Demon1
Sentinel: Demon1 (Chamber)
Initiator: crashies, but soon to be Demon1
Flex: Demon1 (duelist, controller, senti player)
IGL: Saadhak

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Mozzarellas

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big funi

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cartixuzi

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come back in a year and everything will be undisputed

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TheAceGamer30

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Fns has better achievements than saddhak lol

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Nope.

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TheAceGamer30

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Bro sadhakk has no achievements until 2022 . Fns was consistent every year lol envy 2021 made it grand finals and 2022 optic . 2023 loud bombed out in Tokyo and NRG bombed out in champs so they are equal there but overall fns is better

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Marhuee

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??

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nutab1e

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he's a t0nz agent trying to make nrg look bad 🗿

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TheAceGamer30

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T0nz > y0y

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ffwagashi

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what?

#10

ionlyHave1Zuni

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Fair enough

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makoidk

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nAts?

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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nAts when asked where he was in 2022/2023

😶😶

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number1_cned_hater

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He was on a broken gambit in 2022??? and on 2023 hes on team liquid how can u blame him

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Marved-NA-Savior

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Marved, Yay, Demon1, Aspas, nAts, Wardell (for bringing Jett+Op into the game) -> TenZ, cNed, literally everyone copied TSM Wardell back then

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Uncleben

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Marved is not better than mako
Mako cleared him on 2022 other than Reykjavik with the worse team by far, marved didn’t even really play in 2023, and they were roughly even in 2021

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afflict3d

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aspas
mako
less
crashies
forsaken (actually flexible player)
igl fns (was the best igl in na by far in 2021, even on the older envy lineups with ppl like akis c4lypso mummay kaboose)

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Syr0m

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fns loool

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DeluluGavin

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seems about right but for initiators i think it could differ on how people rate them. I would separate recon int and flash int

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Uncleben

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Fns cannot be the best igl in 2021 without winning a single lan, missing Reykjavik and getting grouped at champions

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afflict3d

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in north america

if you watch the games the actual calling was significantly better than that of senitnels/100t, who (the other relevant north american teams in 2021) the best igl of 2021 overall is a very complex question i am genuinely not sure i can answer. the other argument would be for vanity among the na igls in 2021

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Uncleben

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I watched the games trust
Shahz cleared in him in NA stage 2 and 3, won Reykjavik, Steel cleared him in stage 3, vanity cleared him in stage 2, Reykjavik and champs
As much as I like fns I can’t see 2021 him as best na igl

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afflict3d

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i would not agree with the shahz call and steel and vanity are close but i def see ur angle depending on how you evaluate igling (which with just the vods is incredibly difficult)

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Duelist: Aspas (derke criminally under rated though, insane longevity)
Controller: Mako (undisputed)
Sentinel: Less (alfajer is very close)
Initiator: Leo (probably the most contested one, most of the other initiators lack the consistent level of high performances that leo has)
Flex: Chronicle (the 3 time)
IGL: Saadhak (father of valorant, has brought numerous young players to the forefront of valorant)

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DeyahAlAjarma

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Duelist-Aspas/Yay (if were going off of 3 years, yay was top 3 2021, and best 2022-aspas was top 2 2022/2023)
Flex-Victor (Almost every other top flex player wasnt a flex for more than a year or didnt have a good 3 years, victors record as a flex clears the rest over the 3 years)
Initator-Crashies (Same as Vic, most top inats dont have the longevity)
Smokes- Mako (Marved comes close but Mako cleared him in 2023 by a lot)
Sentinel- Less (best sentinel player in 23 and 22, and while he didnt play in 21, no good senti player in 21 were as good in 22/23)
IGL- FNS (2nd at Berlin w/o a coach, 1st at iceland, 3rd at copenhagen, 2nd at champs, 4th at tokyo- Saadhak is a good shout but his 2021 was horrendous, and he fell out without winning a game at both copenhagen and tokyo-which i dont hold against him since fns got grouped in champs 21 and 23)