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cboomer

good team on paper, slightly worse than fnc on paper

sadly that team doesnt work.

Demon1 without the jawgemo dynamic becomes worse. Not individually but his impact on the team as an ENTRY strictly isn't jawgemo and I'd say victor has better entry fundamentals.
You got no dedicated sentinel player because victor will have to play Raze on at least some maps to open up space, at times for EG ethan was playing a pseudo entry but this isnt possible due to him calling now.

Crashies will likely be a constant, hopefully marved can return to being the best controller in the world in which I believe he is now considering makos team is incredibly unstable and he himself had a mediocre 2023, s0m is gone so is pancada at this moment.

Either way sentinels and LOUD are the most balanced and well built teams in americas at this moment, LEV and NRG have issues to work out and with playoff structured the way it is, it's safe to say Cboomer told you so, SEN and LOUD book your tickets to madrid

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Crashies' killjoy wasn't bad last year and cypher isn't that hard to play, if needed crashies will play sentinel and ethan on flash init
for example lotus comp
Victor raze
Demon1 omen/astra
Marved viper
Ethan skye
Crashies kj
The only thing to worry about is crashies being inexperienced on lurker, but i feel his skill is high enough to learn especially from his time with optc core

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this is my point though, someone is gonna have to sacrafice a lot for roles to even work and who knows if its gonna be enough.

Reality is if demon1 was say aspas you wouldnt need victor to play raze on some maps, he would be allowed to anchor

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The NRG roster is full of flexible players, if any team had this issue, NRG is best equipped to deal with it over teams such as LEV

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cboomer

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THEY CALLED ME CRAZY...

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you called it but also you didn’t really prove him wrong cause nrg didn’t do the comps that he said they should do

this is not defending nrg they got shit on today

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I think the Crashies sentinel is the least of NRGS issues tbh

Crashies used to be a Cypher/Viper main during the start of Valorant and he was considered one of the best, Crashies is one of very few that can play any role very well

IMO the biggest issues come when they're midrounding and everybody has their own idea, seems like a case of too many chiefs and not enough Indians

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Crashies > c0m
Victor < Jawgemo
Boostio > Marved(as per SEN form)
Boostio < Marved🥶

Pretty balanced out... Ig all depends how good is Marved still

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respectfully demon1 does not need that bum jawgemo

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cboomer

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clueless

anyways who woulda thought, its just like a yay fan to think his star would succeed without the entry player doing the dirty work

sadly for demon1 he's not an entry like aspiss or d0rke hes a pivot like yay and retardiis hes not an entry specialist like victor jawgemo or jingg

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jawgemo was nobody before demon1, food clears

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when was ethan ever playing “pseudo entry” on eg and how would this become impossible with him calling? If anything eg sometimes had boostio entry and he was the igl which makes your point even dumber

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cboomer

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watch eg pearl ?

also boostio was literally a jett player lmfao idk why you're comparing them. if ethan is more in line with boostio than like valyn whos more dedicated he will probably be fine fragging but the team will take a hit mid rounding

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did you watch how he actually played the agent though?

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cboomer

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do either of you even know what pseudo means? pseudo entry is like fake entry lmfao not really second entry but for a lot of rounds he doesnt entry and if he does its a part of a set piece.
Either way he had like 7 first bloods vs PRX and was actually entrying maybe a third of the offence rounds which is what he'd have to do if victor isn't in that role

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they can literally just play a different comp on pearl then? Ethan can just play kayo if he’s not comfortable playing yoru while calling, which is just an assumption you’re making

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impossible sadly. I can't think of anyone who plays valorant who can fake entry

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ange1

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cboomer

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I suggest you read instead of putting words in my mouth the point was somebody will have to play a second duelist, if its victor it means one of their initiator players will have to move to a role unfamiliar with them. It's not that difficult to understand.

Either you play victor and then crashies/ethan have to go sentinel lurk which is new to both

or you play ethan/crashies on second duelist because victor is the better sentinel between the three flex players on NRG but ethan/crashies are worse at entry

It's not hard to understand you cant even like make a counter argument its just an issue that exists lol

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there are plenty of single duelist comps on pearl, wtf are you on about? In fact, double duelist in general isn’t really meta anymore, even on maps like split most people prefer the comp oxg played at ludwig tarik now. If you say I’m missing some broader point on role issues idk what it is, who plays sentinel on raze maps? If that’s what you’re asking I’d say crashies, he’s played sentinel in the past

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this bait might get motion

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Tbf igling while entrying isn't a new concept at all. Karrigan, ange1, dazed, and steel all did it in the past iirc

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scream

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the sentinels igl who shall not be named

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lowk demon1 should become a sentinel/smoke player. ive been thinking this way forever

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He’s already doing that tho with Chamber and Astra/Brim, but if you’re asking him to switch off Jett when he’s top 2 with aspas rn then that would be a bit too crazy

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hes top 2 because hes just really good. hes not close to a top 2 jett with util usage

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cboomer

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FACTOS

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While role issues and changes have proven to destroy team integrity, let’s not forget how role changes had also made teams better, and looking at NRG; an extremely good team on paper, is really just a coin flip except that their players have the experience and skill to execute. Overall, it really is just a favorable coin flip.

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Crashies can Sova, Fade, Cypher and possibly KJ
Victor can Raze, Phoenix, KJ (Hopefully no more Neon)
Ethan can Skye, KayO, Yoru, Fade
Marved can Omen, Brimstone, Astra, main Viper
Demon1 can Jett, Astra, Brimstone, Chamber, Reyna (Hopefully no Neon, I'll blame Chet)

Who knows, we can possibly see new comps. Harbor, Deadlock, Sage, etc perhaps Victor can Yoru too and Demon1 comes out of nowhere with Raze/Iso.
Can't underestimate this team. They're all skilled players. I think mid-rounding and communication will be fine with these guys too.
Just my take.

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Crashies Victor or Ethan can play Gekko as well. Don't know who will play Breach though, maybe Ethan.

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Ethan or crashies can play Breach

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koromast

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wft you mean hopefully no neon? victor on neon is built different

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pessi_41

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superteams don't work here in NA, simple as that.

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slightly worse than fnc on paper

Wrong, on paper Fnatic is 4 bots and GOATfajer
NRG clears

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TheAceGamer30

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Spitting facts right here