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Pancada or Zellsis? Thoughts?

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#1
eric_5008

Which side are you on? Obviously on a nightly basis, Pancada is a better player in terms of mechanics and experience on controller, however Zellsis brings cohesion and energy when needed.

I lean on the side of Pancada because it's still an FPS game so mechanics >>>>. Coordination can be learned and improved more drastically especially now with an IGL in JohnQt and vocal players like zekken and sacy. I'm not considering what happened this past year as it was a sh*t show as a whole.

#2
FluffyRhino4
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I lean on the side of zellsis because it’s an fps game so mechanics>

#20
UnrivaleD
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altho i think zelsis fits better for sen, but u definitely started watching val since sen invitational only , pancada is way way better mechanically than zellsis

#21
FluffyRhino4
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um def started watching before u because I was watching zellsis do it on lan w v1 way before pancada was around and also pancada hasn't been good for a year lmao it's time to move on

#29
UnrivaleD
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see ur just dumb when zellsis was a teir 2 player on v1 with xander and wippie , pancada was already a famous player in brazil and was dropping numbers , u say zelsis do it on lan he did what? like he never qualified for a major , he never won a trophy ,while pancada is fucking world champion and was mvp for his team many games on smoke role. u have zero knoweldge if u think zelsis is better than panc, its just coms barrier which is orgs fault

#30
spectre300
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agree with everything u said but how language barrier is orgs fault ?

#31
UnrivaleD
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bcz sen brought sacy and pancada brazilians with poor english and thought they could have good chemistry with american players. coms are fundamental part of the game , sacy improved his eng but panc didnt . so project was doomed to failure before it started

#32
spectre300
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it's a language it can be learned in a year in a country that speaks english and it's not like rob moore flew to pancada's house and kidnapped him everyone agreed on that why the org is the reason now

#47
1mBor3d
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zellsis did qualify for a LAN tho lmao iceland 2021 like the first one, mechanics wise tbh it depends on the day I think zellsis in general frags better but pancada has better util easily, its a tough choice to make but as far as everything goes i think zellsis just fits what sen needs better

#49
FluffyRhino4
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He’s dumb bro and just assuming shit “never qualified for a major” bro doesn’t know shit ab Valorant

#48
FluffyRhino4
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Nah bc ur actually dumb “xander” lmao

And never qualified for a major? He qualified for masters? LMAAOOO ur dumb af

#3
h1gh_fall
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pancada clears

#7
Rollon_vegabond
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Im not a fan of Brazilians on my NA team

#9
Smartest_BR_fan
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You what?🤨

#38
anyth1ng
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I'm not a fan of my goat players in your shitty sorry ass excuse of an org too, send them back

#54
Rollon_vegabond
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I agree he should go back. I don’t think he’s bad but SEN team is not a tournament winner pancada does not have a fluency in English. Everything he comms and is listening to is delayed.

He’s a great player and should play with a BR team. His talents are being wasted and the team is held back because of him.

#55
anyth1ng
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because of him? aight let's see how good will it be with zellsis instead

#4
h9zard
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i trust kaplan to have learned from last season and to not fuck up this time

#5
widepeepofrosty
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with zellsis its a superteam

but with pancada its a winning team

#10
Smartest_BR_fan
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Wtf is that supposed to mean?💀

#19
Conut
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superteam = content team

#23
Na1my
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He thinks a tier 2 IGL, a has been player, a pretty experienced initiator, and 2 above average role players make a super team.

#27
extan
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zekken clears any German player that has ever lived

#53
Na1my
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Thats like saying the current german footbal team clears any female football team

#25
Simp4S0m
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Flair

#6
SEN_brasileiros
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pancada clears cuz better aim + better clutch potential

#8
pessi_41
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You all just don't get how much Comms matters. Ask any pro player how much it matters. I am a huge fan of pancada the goat. but his English is really poor, just watch his stream, I can't fathom what he is saying. It will be more difficult to understand during matches which are comparatively more intense situation than show match or scrim. I didn't find any "Uncensored" comms video of sen where pancada actively suggesting an idea or coordinating. Only when he and sacy are in 2vX situation he comms a lot but they speak Portuguese then. Just want pancada in Brazilian roaster dude. He will be activated again.

#11
Orangepanda
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So Any APAC team with broken English clears SEN? 🫵🤡 1 gazillion excused team

#12
LyCan52
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yes any APAC team can clear sen 👍

#13
pessi_41
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yes any team from last year cleared sen as far as they were not playing ascension.

#14
pessi_41
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brother forgot about 2021 2022 fnatic.
mystic was the problem
first time playing lan
first time playing on stage
no enzo was the problem
derke got covid
mini got cold
who is hiber
botstar

king of excuses

#15
ShuGo
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I side with pANcada, they did that boi wrong

if he's getting paid without him doing nothing, then he should be chilling and get more $$$ from streaming tho

#16
Kevn
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As much as I want to side with Pancada because he definitely has been done dirty, I really do think in terms of chem zellsis just fits better. SEN has a lot of soft spoken players and just seeing them hangout lately with Zellsis they all look so much more comfortable and extroverted. Obviously we can’t see impact fully in game, but I just imagine Zellsis being a bigger impact during comms and high stress situations.

#17
Kevn
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Also if you want to go down the mechanics route I don’t think there’s such a huge gap between Zellsis and Pancada. Obviously Zellsis is extremely under experienced on controller compared to Pancada, but it’s not like he’s playing horribly. I think he actually looks decent. It’s very early for him still, but nonetheless if this is the decision SEN has made I feel like surely it has to be the fact they favor the Chem and are hopeful in Zellsis to become a promising controller player.

#33
h1gh_fall
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there is a huge gap bro, we're comparing sentinels invitational champion VS Champions champion, other thing to note is that pancada was always a player that don't comm too much, i watched a comm video from loud 2022 and pancada was just calling the basics and he still do it in sentinels, but if they really want to have zellsis on the starting roster i don't see why not try zellsis on tenz role, this could be the best iteration of the roster ...

#39
hellfire
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this, if pancada is the better smokes player, keep him. If Zellsis is the better flex, then keep him but sen would consider everything but benching tenz

#52
LouBag
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If he really had flawless mechanics he would always frag well.

Being bad at shooting for a year is inexcusable for a player with great mechanics.

Saadhak made him look better than he is. Period.

#18
pessi_41
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w take

#22
Na1my
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Pancada has been a world champion in 2 games by now, and was in contention for being the best player on loud in 2022, while Zellsis only has been an above average role filler.

Pancadas skills are undeniable, and even if he hasnt been that good last year, the gamble of him becoming really good again is totally worth it. I would start the season with pancada for sure.

#24
Simp4S0m
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Both and remove t0nz

#26
Pengu12
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Even if Zellsis is better for the team(which idk cause idk how the comms look like) Pancada was done extremely dirty

#28
KxngSolomon
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FAKER THE 🐐

#34
RGS_OnToP
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zellsis and get ride of sacy too for shaz
the two brazilian were both hella mid the whole Season anyway
they were promise to be latin Alfajer + leo duo but end up been worst then some na t2 option

#36
shzuo
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mediocre mentality

#42
Peteer
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Bro Said shaz kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

#43
RGS_OnToP
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sorry but shaz can play syke unlike sacy ^^
and with zellsis return it`s very likely that shaz will come back also

#35
LilRickyy
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Both are great fits. I would be happy with either of them.

#37
cioccolat
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bro just TAKE OUT TENZ. YOU WILL GET THE BETTER OF BOTH.

#44
RGS_OnToP
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Well, Tenz is the king while Sacy and Pancada are nothing more than pawns
and pawns have to protect their king.If they fail, they will be sacrificed

#45
cioccolat
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Nice bait, TenZ will never be what the hype said he was

#46
RGS_OnToP
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how is this bait boy ?
pancada is about .............

#50
cioccolat
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Uh Oh, i just caught you lurking on my feed😂😂, never do this again😳😊, if i see your ass😬 again imma have to rustle your feathers 😱😈☠ big boy 😎.

#40
hellfire
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bench tenz problem solved😭

#41
Peteer
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Pancada

#51
Rey55
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zellsis is no slouch when it comes to shooting. He ain't even the worst aimer on the team, it's sacy.

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