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Is ISO Even a Dualist

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#1
setsrex

Can Someone explain how can he even create space without his ult.
It's almost like an initiator.
Could never work as a solo or as a single dualist.
Tf did they cook

#2
Mr_milo
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iso + raze sounds like a good duo

#3
batchestingveryhard
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his moving wall and vulnerable bolt thingy are pretty good for site hits. Better entry then reyna at least

#4
melon_fan
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Hybrid

#5
Mortadelo
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Just like Reyna does but with a wall to help??

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batchestingveryhard [#3]

his moving wall and vulnerable bolt thingy are pretty good for site hits. Better entry then reyna at least

both abilities make space for your team just like an initiator, there isnt anything duelist about him other than his low budget reyna dismiss

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hrwoahrwoahro
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KOMPOSTO [#6]

both abilities make space for your team just like an initiator, there isnt anything duelist about him other than his low budget reyna dismiss

low budget dismiss? he is bulletproof and can shoot at the same time

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KOMPOSTO [#6]

both abilities make space for your team just like an initiator, there isnt anything duelist about him other than his low budget reyna dismiss

What Initiator ability creates space wtf
How do you define a duelist then

#9
Mortadelo
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hrwoahrwoahro [#7]

low budget dismiss? he is bulletproof and can shoot at the same time

And has a much higher skill gap. You don’t have an animation like Reyna, you shoot it instead, if you do it fast enough it’s faster

#10
hrwoahrwoahro
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KOMPOSTO [#6]

both abilities make space for your team just like an initiator, there isnt anything duelist about him other than his low budget reyna dismiss

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#11
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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KOMPOSTO [#6]

both abilities make space for your team just like an initiator, there isnt anything duelist about him other than his low budget reyna dismiss

Isn't the duelist the one that takes space for the team not the initiator? So he's basically a duelist.

You could entry by using wall then preparing your e. Get a frag (if you did), quickly flick the orb then swing again. He's not the entry duelist like Raze and Jett. He's more of a contact duelist.

He's really a duelist.

#12
Liem
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Mortadelo [#5]

Just like Reyna does but with a wall to help??

Reyna has flashes at least

#13
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hrwoahrwoahro [#7]

low budget dismiss? he is bulletproof and can shoot at the same time

you dont get a get out of jail free card after getting a kill

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Mortadelo [#8]

What Initiator ability creates space wtf
How do you define a duelist then

his abilities arent selfish like that of jett, raze etc,

your teammates can very easily play off of your wall or vulnerablity thing

#15
yoyoyo_8382
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Dualist

#16
4rrowlol
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KOMPOSTO [#14]

his abilities arent selfish like that of jett, raze etc,

your teammates can very easily play off of your wall or vulnerablity thing

Raze abilities aren’t selfish at all wtf is this take

#17
Bonkbonk201
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Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#11]

Isn't the duelist the one that takes space for the team not the initiator? So he's basically a duelist.

You could entry by using wall then preparing your e. Get a frag (if you did), quickly flick the orb then swing again. He's not the entry duelist like Raze and Jett. He's more of a contact duelist.

He's really a duelist.

reminds me of how analysts always note that 1 duelist on prx is a contact duelist (aka something on reyna) and 1 is a entry duelist, (aka forsaken on jett or jinggg on raze)

#18
TheBigBoiPenguin
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4rrowlol [#16]

Raze abilities aren’t selfish at all wtf is this take

he's right for the wrong reasons.

duelists have abilities that let them entry into the site, iso doesn't. He can set up others to enter, but he can't actually do it himself.

#19
cioccolat
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Yoru + Iso could workout really well
Astra / Yoru / Fade / Viper / Cypher

Both work as initiators so it would essentially be a triple initiator comp with a double smoke AND a Sentinel, with the benefits of the selfish playstyle of duelists.

#20
Simp4S0m
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yoyoyo_8382 [#15]

Dualist

duolist

#21
Mortadelo
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TheBigBoiPenguin [#18]

he's right for the wrong reasons.

duelists have abilities that let them entry into the site, iso doesn't. He can set up others to enter, but he can't actually do it himself.

He can’t throw the wall and follow it?

#22
voovoovoo
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hrwoahrwoahro [#7]

low budget dismiss? he is bulletproof and can shoot at the same time

bro, no one will shoot one bullet to the head and be like I'm done for the day. Everyone burst fires if not spray. it's hard to shoot one bullet out of a phantom

#23
koromast
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the shield thing can create space

#24
firo
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its reyna with wall, maybe more on second entry

#25
danii1
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I'm pretty sure he's a duelist

#26
Crystalzer0
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voovoovoo [#22]

bro, no one will shoot one bullet to the head and be like I'm done for the day. Everyone burst fires if not spray. it's hard to shoot one bullet out of a phantom

yeah, but depriving your opponent of his first bullet accuracy can't hurt

#27
Crystalzer0
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cioccolat [#19]

Yoru + Iso could workout really well
Astra / Yoru / Fade / Viper / Cypher

Both work as initiators so it would essentially be a triple initiator comp with a double smoke AND a Sentinel, with the benefits of the selfish playstyle of duelists.

I would love to see what a Raze/Iso/Skye/Astra/KJ could do seems like a lot of synergy on paper

#28
voovoovoo
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Crystalzer0 [#26]

yeah, but depriving your opponent of his first bullet accuracy can't hurt

can't hurt but isn't good at the same time

#29
Crystalzer0
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voovoovoo [#28]

can't hurt but isn't good at the same time

not the same. you can't take space using dismiss.

#30
Breloof
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TheBigBoiPenguin [#18]

he's right for the wrong reasons.

duelists have abilities that let them entry into the site, iso doesn't. He can set up others to enter, but he can't actually do it himself.

Reyna doesn't have entry abilities either. Not all duelists are great entries. Yoru is also a bit clunky on the entry and needs supportive utility if you want to tp in.

#31
SilentCypher
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He's a very good secondary duelist.

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