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NRG 2023 VS NRG 2024

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#1
masterX

Aspas > ardiis
Marved > s0m
Saadhak > fns

They should be a champion with those rosters

#2
bigboy
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saadhak < fns

#3
eeveeceo
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lost me at Marved > s0m

#4
masterX
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Lost me at s0m > Marved ?

#5
eeveeceo
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s0m throughout basically the whole season was a top 5 player in Americas

Marved was lowkey mid on Sentinels

#6
masterX
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He will play for NRG not a f**ing sentinels

#7
eeveeceo
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that's not the point, Marved's individual output wasn't great either way

#8
mrGoudas
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Cause he was igling and his team was shit(cause of his igling)

#9
TheAqif
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men

#11
eeveeceo
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IGLing isn't an excuse anymore, there are plenty of super solid fraggers that are IGLs as well + he wasn't even micromanaging that much so it shouldn't take away from his production

also, he wasn't great in comparison to the other sentinels players too

#12
4ch1p4p4
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Whta do you mean? Of course and igling deteriorates the performance of someone...

#15
eeveeceo
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I just explained to you why the IGLing role shouldn't have affected him as much

you need to explain just what it is about IGLing which should make your aim worse

#19
4ch1p4p4
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First of all you didn't even explain to me (you were talking to @mrGoudas).

Now, about the IGLing part:
I'm not even a fan of Marved but I really have to explain you why his very mid performance when playing for SEN was because of him taking the IGL role.

When Marved wasn't igling (because dephh was) his performance was excellent:

His only bad game was against EG, the current World Champions, who were also in hot form back then.

It was only after he was forced to IGL that his performance worsened. And it wasn't even that bad, he was usually placing in the middle of the scoreboard.

Now to answer your question about the correlation between igling and aiming:
The most important factor of igling that worsens someone's aim is the constant checking of the minimap. The amount of times players aren't focused on their crosshair placement because they are looking at their minimap and as a result they take an unfavored gunfight and they die is absurd (you can probably relate too). And if you say a pro player shouldn't be making these rookie mistakes, I will inform you that improvement comes with experience. And Marved was THE DEFINITION of an inexperienced IGL (it was his first ever time being an IGL and that was in VCT). Other IGLs are much more experienced and therefore they don't make such mistakes, which results in them performing up to their level.

But I would honestly like to hear who are those "super solid fraggers" IGLs you are talking about.
The grand majority of great IGLs are not at all like what you described: FNS, Saadhak, Boaster, Haodong (since you are an EDG fan you should know) and many others are usually bottom-fragging.
The only world class IGL who is both good on his role and a good fragger that comes to my mind is Boostio, but even he was the worst rated member of EG at Champions LA.

PS: I agree with you that s0m looked better than Marved this year, but your IGL argument is just nonsense...

#14
rErebus_
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Marved was not lowkey mid, he came into a team that was falling apart, as an IGL which he had no choice over, yet performed very well winning crucial rounds to make Sentinels recent tournament runs not so embarrassing. I wouldnt know who id rather have, I think even if they both played smokes they still play the role differently, such as Marved being known for his lurks on Omen and Som known for controlling the game on Astra

#16
eeveeceo
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sure, even if we be nice and say Marved was good during LCQ and the end of the season, s0m by far had the better season.

I like Jimmy as much as the next guy but optic d-riders gotta get off his meat and respect the facts when other players have clearly better years

#10
Simp4S0m
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Stopped reading at “> S0m”

#13
Liem
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i was having fun at the water slide when suddenly i noticed

#17
Congo1
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Aspas is going to bleed ya silly goose

#18
danii1
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I sure as hell hope he's not gonna bleed

#20
Next1
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Bleed Aspas

#21
lilcheese
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Marved had one good event in his whole career

#22
patuj
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s0m > Marved IMO
Marved had really high peaks last year, but even in Champions 22 he didn't look close as impactful iirc and had pretty mediocre 2023. Sentinels was pretty shit whole season long so can't blame him for everything, but s0m often looked like the best player on NRG and was really impactful for what I remember.

#24
ExoJay
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marved has way more impact with his lurks and timings, s0m might be more consistent but marved is overall the better player

#23
Mortadelo
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Idk about champions but hopefully they manage to get pass BiliBili

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