I did, in fact, read all of that. You by all means bring up so extremely relevant points.

I was primarily referring to Boostio and stax, two players which come to mind as having excellent aim while still having to call for teams with extremely nuanced playbooks. I feel that in general the trend towards IGLs bottom fragging is less necessarily because their aim takes a massive hit when they are calling, but more towards the fact that their raw aim just wasn't necessarily that good in the first place but they were still valuable enough to be on a team because of their gamesense and comms, etc.

I think Marved also did a bit of calling on Optic and Faze, two of his previous teams, and learnt a lot under FNS so I don't think it's very fair to say that he's completely new to the IGL role. Also, from what I remember of Marved's gameplay it was less crosshair placement and more just quite crappy sprays towards the end of the season. He also said himself that he's a more chill IGL, ie. less micromanaging (as I referenced earlier) so I don't think that his fragging should take as much of a hit.

texture is gone but botssi isn't confirmed yet??

yeah bro is sooo annoying I really wished he would stfu and let the actual experts speculate

sure, even if we be nice and say Marved was good during LCQ and the end of the season, s0m by far had the better season.

I like Jimmy as much as the next guy but optic d-riders gotta get off his meat and respect the facts when other players have clearly better years

I just explained to you why the IGLing role shouldn't have affected him as much

you need to explain just what it is about IGLing which should make your aim worse

IGLing isn't an excuse anymore, there are plenty of super solid fraggers that are IGLs as well + he wasn't even micromanaging that much so it shouldn't take away from his production

also, he wasn't great in comparison to the other sentinels players too

that's not the point, Marved's individual output wasn't great either way

on that topic idk if we should count pancada as NA even though he's on Sentinels...

s0m throughout basically the whole season was a top 5 player in Americas

Marved was lowkey mid on Sentinels

lost me at Marved > s0m

you must not be very intelligent

damn this team might actually make playoffs

you can do that on good teams too tbh

are there even any left?

if they say it's easier to get good stats on a bad team

wdym "least representation" that's a pretty good amount of teams

if we're being honest here, the highest tier of competitive NA talent only stretches 5 teams anyways

who cares at least we get to see the 10 teams in a region duke it out that's good enough

building a healthy T2 ecosystem is always difficult for a newer FPS

wow you are really that dumb huh

the whole argument you had was about "stats" to begin with, and whether it was easier to get them on good vs bad teams, don't forget that- KK's production was still massive in Champs, and they literally finished off in the same position as they did in Tokyo LOL

I think it's also funny that your boy yay is literally a contradiction to your whole argument, y'all really tried to forget quickly how badly he shat the bed consistently against far worse competition on a crappy team like DSG

my region may be shit but I think that's more because of the fact that our kids spend more time in school instead of grinding valorant so they wouldn't be as dumb as you fucks when they grow up, I'll watch my team make it back to international LANs as yours fucking creates content for Tik Tok again

You bronze hardstuck shitter.

what I'm saying is that even if you don't go deeper into tournaments, since the level of competition has increased overall its still comparable difficulties when it comes to teams both KK and yay have faced imo

they've gone up against Navi, LOUD, EG, PRX, Liquid over the course of like two international LANs, which are basically the cores of some of the top teams of 2022 which yay had to contend with as well

and you're from NA so you're biased to yay and the Optic core GTFO with that hypocrisy

basketball is absolutely nothing like valorant, maybe if you compared it to something that relied more on team synergy like volleyball or soccer you would have a point. The ability a player has to carry a game in basketball is infinitely more than that of valorant because of the opportunities you have 1v1 to win opportunities for your team.

Does that help your small brain NA fan?

teams were not better in 2022 and that is an absolute fact

talent got so much more concentrated this year across all regions it's nearly unfathomable

what part of "carrying" means your stats get boosted, that is an awful argument 💀

if anything your stats would go down if your team is trash, it means more shitty buys, lack of util from cash or bad coordination, more 1vX situations, bad trading and enemies that aren't lit up you literally just proved your own case wrong

anybody say that Riot didn't give permission??? it's cause no big event really has the revenue to host a full scale valorant tourney yet without a bunch of gambling sponsors

then why are people shitting on riot for not installing a third party event 😭

that's literally the definition of 3rd party

you realise that if events in the season are more spaced out, resulting in a shorter season which a lot of people want, the revenue that orgs are going to receive is not going to be better right

the vast majority of the revenue they get is from the teams actually competing, if they compete in the same amount of matches or whatever over a long period instead of a shorter one the revenue they get is basically the same

you're going to be burning money to keep the rosters fielded either way

what's a better incentive that you reckon should be provided for winning ascension

u mean pre-franchising?

an esports league is not sustainable without having at least some partner teams work with the organisations running the tournaments, obviously Riot was going to employ it cause of how much more streamlined the system is

don't act like teams weren't falling apart in the old system either

no shit you're going to see the best teams play each other more towards the late stages of tournaments what does that have to do with the T2 scene

not a Leo apologist here, but wtf do you suggest to be a better option

the old ascension system was even worse wtf kinda bait is that

what possibly could be an alternative

if orgs aren't able to monetise their processes then maybe they shouldn't enter into the industry
Riot has already been pretty good at responding to the major qualms T2 players/teams have had about the short season times wrecking their revenue base in the offseason

Istanbul was at 2am and 3am for Asia... stop complaining at least you are physically able to get up early instead of having to literally stay up the whole night

also, clearly they would shift back the game times an hour if it was Sydney so it would lie at the same time as Tokyo

that's a damn good dream

but MAN that is a dream nonetheless

sadly, The Union is still going to have absolutely no-one want the players on their team and probably win :(

still probably a fan favourite if we do a bit of soul searching and bandwagon introspection

Version1?????

wakey wakey time to get up for school homie 😭😭😭

everything else is very fair

nah bro I don't even like Demon1 that much and this shit might become my wallpaper

why so mad

tbf, his acting repertoire is so crazy that he would be an amazing flex

but on the other hand he's shown he's damn good at getting kills LOL

Singapore PLEASE

PRX need the homecrowd advantage for next time

tbf living there isn't too crazy

the fact they have internet is what I'm surprised about

nah that's amazing to see

I get pretty worried sometimes about a lot of T2 players or super young semi-pros trying to grind ranked 24/7 and neglecting their studies- people really forget sometimes just how short careers can be in the esports scene and how there really is a lack of a follow up job with the skills/experience they get other than working for companies like Riot/coaching staff or analysts etc.

glad to see he's setting a really good example for future pros

yeah if we're being honest here, tenz MADE the valorant esports scene in NA

call me a bandwagon or whatever but he was the guy that first got me hooked on val pro play when I used to watch CS

Christian Bale would be an instalock reyna

all been there for quite a few more international lans and playoffs stages

keznit has been one of the goats of SA

scream is probably from the CS nostalgia

not yet, but he will retire a top 10 player ever

eh... by info init u mean sova right, cause both skye and kayo have info gathering abilities, skye especially

most teams run double controller now anyways, also s0m used to play a lot of duelist so he can play that sort of f0rsaken role with harbour, jett, etc. on the team and b0aster did a decent amount of initiator last year before Leo came in

Ethan right? or Chronicle?

nah nah you're probably 100% right

it's a shame that most of the coaches, unless they're like SUPER big personalities like mini or alecks don't really get that much love or attention

u can have that conversation fs, again the coach stuff is basically ranked on team success mainly cause of how hard it is to identify coaching impact in games