NRG + Leaf > NRG + Yay

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Nachtel

While I love OpTic, the current meta does not do ardiis and yay any favors, especially yay.

Leaf as a duelist matches perfectly with NRG:

-Incredibly flexible on Killjoy, Skye, Jett, Raze, and Neon; fixes almost every potential role issue NRG currently has having to accommodate to Ardiis.

-Most intelligent duelist in NA, his pathing, entries and overall gamesense are world-class

-His aim rivals the other superstars like Aspas, Demon1, and Cryo.

-incredibly vocal and active in preparation for upcoming games. Incredibly hard working.

Everyone talks about aspas or yay to NRG, but imo the best possible upgrade is Leaf if they ever manage to get him.

NRG Leaf
NRG FNS
NRG crashies
NRG Victor
NRG s0m

Actually a dynasty capable team, potential to surpass OpTic

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nutab1e

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allat + l0af

#3

Tosspoa

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Not really, Leaf is not a top 5 duelist in NA

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Prathades

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Have you seen his stats on Jett,neon and raze?

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Nachtel

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He quite literally was second only to Aspas in stats during the regular season

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there are only 5 NA teams bruv (with the exception of the Guard)

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Yeah, MB, i meant VCT americas

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some teams have more than 1 duelist

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all that for the guard to wipe 🤣

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Leafinggton clears yay in every way

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why would NRG downgrade from bagriis?

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aylez

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aspas clears both

#10

alecksdesk

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unfortunately, erick does clear. NRG erick? fuck it im down

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leaf agent pool clears aspas agent pool tho

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aylez

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would rather have a world champ than a choker though ^_^

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damn.

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aylez

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someone had to say it

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noxx

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do not disrespect leafington the goat

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SEN_brasileiros

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FINALLY U SAYING THE TRUTH

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aylez

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im always right wdym

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I'm not sold on his oping. It's not something we see him do as much as ardiis/aspas/cryo.

Could be a problem if a chamber meta re-emerges

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Nachtel

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That's his one downside, I'll agree

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Thinking about it more you could compare leaf and victor.
Both have familiarity playing entry roles. Both can play kj well.

Though Victor's raze is better imo.

I'm not sure i could ever see this move materialising due to victors good history with fns/crashies.
It also might be just a sideways step depending on the meta.

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Nachtel

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Even on C9, Leaf plays other roles and leaves the raze to Xeppaaa, I'm expecting a similar dynamic between him and Victor.

Plus, having someone that can fill every role except for smokes and sentinel smokes (which FNS and s0m already have locked down?) is always a plus for the team.

Plus NRG already plays double duelist on split with ardiis

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Keith opping ? 🤨

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Danny

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Leaf is not up for grabs

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Nachtel

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Let's just say the NRG players have the highest salaries in NA and Cloud9...well... you know ;)

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alecksdesk

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SEN clears i think (not that they need leaf)

tenz? at least a mill, cmon on...
sacy pancada? 400k each rumour
marved? idk, but cant be cheap. esp after the superweek
zekken? better pay him whatever u can to keep him

i remember fns saying yay buyout was as all 3 core players combined
buyout doesnt equal salary but still, yay salary was rumoured to be around 1mill
i think sen clears in terms of paychecks

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If tenz get dropped they can easily get Aspas with that salary lol

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Nachtel

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Tenz's buyout is not that much anymore probably given his 2022 performance. His contract only lasts a year.

I'm not sure if Sentinels have higher salaries but I know for a fact that they have a lot more money to throw around from Rob Moore's personal funds

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alecksdesk

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its less about performance and more about overall value, his clout is worth a lot and brings fans to the team. it would be dumb to not negotiate that value.

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cboomer

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Leaf actually entries unlike yay

he plays all duelist agents + skye and KJ hes got a way better agent pool that fartdiis

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Nachtel

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He's the NA version of Sayf imo

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cboomer

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true hes the most intelligent NA player his jett plays exactly likes sayf on ct side where he pushes with dash active instead of hiding in a corner with an awp like yay

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NRG w zekken >>>>>

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Nachtel

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that's also a really good option

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why would they drop ardiis he is not that bad

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Nachtel

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same reason they dropped mummAy for Yay back when they were still called ENVY; even though he was performing good, yay was a clear upgrade and the missing piece they needed to no longer finish top 3 and instead dominate NA

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nrg should get cryo and riot should kick 100t out of franchise

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SigmaMale

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I love leaf but he is just gonna choke in important games. Would rather get yay who is consistently great

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Nachtel

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KyLZi

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Who says they are dropping ardiis?

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zore

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If they do bad in champs he is 100 percent getting dropped.

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navi gonna bomb out like usual and go back to ardiis, leaving up a free duelist spot for nrg

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bro ardiis solves so many of navi's issues

cned is not it, hes just a 1 trick jett and cant play anything else - except for the occasional good game on neon

suygetsu doesnt play kj, even though there are a lot of maps where kj > cypher

a big problem is bind, where cned cant play raze, sage or anything else, so they have to use some weird ass neon comp

if they got ardiis, he could play sage and they would be bing chilling

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cypher30

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great idea, but nrg is already better than 99% of NA

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nastyblaster

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leaf and victor play the same roles. Both of them dont have much impact with the op.
fns
crashies
leaf
marved
yay
chet
would be insane

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mon471

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NRG + Rossi the best ITW