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#1
yoboikingkong

istg he has the best PR in this game

Marved
OPTC

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492
0.99
stats at champs(sub 1 rating for the best smoker in the world), while pancada and mako had 1.21 and 1.13 respectively

*****

Marved
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393
1.05
stats at copenhagen (mako had 1.13 rating again)

*****

Marved
OPTC
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468
1.13
stats at reykjavik
this was marved's best performance of all time and still mako was miles clear of him
MaKo
DRX
271
1.29

PS: he is good and decent enough to be on franchise team, but please dont compare this one time wonder with mako.

#2
thenutoriousPRO
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ong bros trash

#3
Manaphy
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Welp s0m is better than both now so who cars.

#4
yoboikingkong
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this must also tell how bad ardiis is for the team. if you get a controller better than marved and then still go on to perform like this.... optic core is hard carrying the lackluster performances from ardiis.

#6
Manaphy
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I just don't know what happened since last year. I could have sworn he was much better than what he's been playing like.

#30
Kinkz
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Also shows how good yay was

#32
yoboikingkong
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haters aside, it should be obvious for everyone that yay was and still can be top 3

#43
Kinkz
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True

#49
The_Cleg
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Top 3 is insane expectations from a player that couldn't perform in T2.
I hope he can, but for now I can see him being top 20 at best. Even when he played for C9 he didn't look much better than top 25 honestly.

But in the past he was definitely top 1 for a prolonged period of time

#65
1cameh
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he went from being set up in every single situation/round and just needed to hit the shot, compared to t2 where he was forced to entry and play nothing like he was comfortable with. I don't think it's an apple-to-apples comparison

#67
LocoMonteiro
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I dont remember Optic last year playing against the 3 best players in the world + boaster and derke but sure whatever....you drop optic on masters tokyo and i guarantee you they dont do much better

#9
skatman
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s0m is not better than mako lmao

#10
Manaphy
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Currently he is.

#11
babi
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Just because your team placed higher in a tourney doesn’t mean that they are better

#14
Manaphy
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He's been individually better player as well. The util usage is relative and s0m is a mechanically better player. On top of that he has been insanely consistent and hasn't had a bad individual series all year.

#17
ipok6
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wtf does "the util usage is relative" mean?

#18
Manaphy
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The are close when it comes to usage of utility.

#55
Zerphyr1
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what? please speak english not american

#12
skatman
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thats drx being worse than nrg rn, not on mako
team better doesn't mean player better
or would you call enzo better than leo last year

#15
Manaphy
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Enzo wasn't better than Leo last year so no I wouldn't say that.

#21
kirito5133
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so s0m isnt better than mako. mako got mvp in pacific. drx is just burnout that also affect mako significantly

#22
Manaphy
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You could say DRX is burnout but even when NRG was playing or do play bad s0m still performs individually well. Also, s0m has 3 players who are supposed to be world class individually but is outperforming all of them and has been the most consistent on the team since lockin to this point right now.

#53
kaibe8
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same is true for Mako, he is on the South Korean Super team with 4 other great players, but he is still by far their best player rn

#54
skatman
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mako just has better performances than som
u just biased as an nrg fan

#50
The_Cleg
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Enzo really never put better stats than Leo lol. The point is Leo even in a worse team managed to look better than Enzo

#5
Yistyy
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Bro actually thinks rating is a good stat 💀

#24
yoboikingkong
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probably the best metric to prove to you NA idiots

#31
-morte-
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Stats don't show round impact and clutches. That's where Marved thrived. He wasn't a high fragger but he played to his role to perfection

#33
yoboikingkong
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lmfao shut up with that cope

#56
Zerphyr1
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actually rating does show round impact and clutches. It calculates the rating off the importance of a kill for example you would get more rating for a first blood or a kill in a 1v1, 3v3 ect.. than a 5v1 for example. clutches also improve the rating along with surviving assists and just so much more. Please learn how the rating system works before you talk shit about it.

For reference:
https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained#:~:text=This%20rating%20system%20takes%20into,data%20that%20can%20be%20analyzed.

#71
GhostNexus
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That's what yall bot fraggers use to cope LMFAO. you bot frag and say you're having impact. It's too funny. Rating was invented by clowns you can't frag cause they're so bad

#7
cboomer
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if you take out group stage at Iceland marved is the third highest rated player and like .04 higher than mako

Rating is terrible because mako and marved play different roles within the game despite playing the same agent mako is the engine of DRX where marved was a lurk on a superteam

the conclusion is mako is better until the playoffs when it matters then marved cleared

#25
yoboikingkong
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yea why shouldnt i remove all the games i lose in ranked and then calculate my actual rank ? no? stupid.

#26
cboomer
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well im just saying Marved got a lot of credit at Iceland for his performance in the playoffs bro, where he carried, and he did. (was the best player itw at that point and in turn best controller)

if you're saying Mako was better from Copenhagen until now I agree but Iceland is rightfully marved.

#27
Manaphy
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I think he's saying in totality of last year Mako was better than Marved.

#34
yoboikingkong
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yea i am willing to rate marved higher at iceland as his perforamance made his team win the event

#74
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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another thing for context: drx played zeta and nip in groups and absolutlely DESTROYED both teams. while it is not their fault that those teams played bad. it DOES mean someones rating will be higher

#8
chimpy
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Ur joking right?? Marved clears mako so hard he should change his name to ako

#19
Simp4S0m
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??

#57
Zerphyr1
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ako?

#13
samhatts
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Anyone who doesn't think mako is the best smoker in the world is simply wrong. s0m/marved/pancada my ass if thry can't put up top 10 performances at the next 5 tournaments mako will still be smokes goat

#16
Diebs
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Dat boy cold tho 🥶🥶

#20
SaltyMcNulty
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I have 1.41 rating against ascendant players. That means I clear MaKo

#23
yoboikingkong
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yea i took marved stats from radiant and mako's stat from ascendant right?

NA brain rot

#29
SaltyMcNulty
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Marved made it to finals and played more matches against high caliber opponents. Are you clueless fam?

#35
yoboikingkong
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mako had to put up performances even when his team was choking and losing maps 13-5

#28
propulsion
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mako is undeniably the best controller, hop off the alcohol

#36
winae29
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mako is just a stat padder sadly. put marved on drx and maybe that team would actually adapt instead of running the same site hit and going for dumbass mollies 10 rounds in a row

#39
The_Cleg
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Absolutely freaking not lol. MaKo can frag so much better than Marved ever will, and honestly drx don't need excellent util but they just need frags over frags atp..

#41
winae29
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what drx need is a change in mentality and someone to think outside of their set strats they always run, also better mid rounding would help as well. its not about fragging it's about the plays marved can bring when your strats are not working.

#42
The_Cleg
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Nah the problem is their system not mako. Dudes a fucking rock

#46
winae29
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yeah i guess this turned into a mako diss i was kinda trolling in my first comment, obviously he aint the problem. but i do think someone with marved's way of thinking would help drx drastically

#48
The_Cleg
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Yes but not if you change him for mako

#37
The_Cleg
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Facts lol he just took that MVP trophy after a good run and his best games in the finals and then just bombed out.

But here is a counterpoint. Rating is a great stat, especially for quantifying a team success. But Valorant is such a team game more than any other sport is. There is no ball everyone is constantly on the spot.

Optic method was basically giving all the spotlight to yay, always putting him in the position to get the frags.
I doubt that all that rating was 100% on yay, but it should be redistributed to the other team members as well. Yay was obviously the greatest player in the team but rating overrates him for this simple reason, and underrates his teammates

#38
titanwithpp
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Marved was good in 2022, sadly this year s0m clears him (CGRS clears s0m lmao)

MaKo clears all tho

#44
yoboikingkong
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sadly this year s0m clears him (CGRS clears s0m lmao)

bro is waffling

#45
titanwithpp
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yeah thinking marved is doing any better is what is being delusional, bro got his chance on SEN and shat his pants bad

#47
Art1st
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marved is undeafted igling this year? how did he shit his pants bro? LOL

#58
Zerphyr1
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against 2 shit teams which are kru and furia so no wonder

#40
jawn
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MaKo is the undisputed controller GOAT, there is no point in comparisons

#51
Jeffo
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Everytime marved and mako aced each other marved proved he's better, and that's the best way to see who's actually better, ratings depends on a lot of factors, mako is litteraly the superstar of DRX, marved had yay who was fragging most of the times and their roles are very different, still marved was more impactful and better than mako, and the trophy counts for a lot especially when he had that huge impact on winning it.

#60
Zerphyr1
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so would u call boaster a better igl and player than fns bc he has more trophies?

#62
GreyDaze
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Currently it does look like it yeah. Fns got outcalled by boaster when they faced each other. And boaster for sure is a better player mechanically

#64
Zerphyr1
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ok then would u call something a worse player than tenz bc of the trophies? my point is having a trophy or not doesn't mean ur just automatically a better player than someone who doesn't

#68
GreyDaze
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That's not how it works. Player's quality changes over time. Something currently is good and tenz is not good as him. It's not about trophies. It's about how good they are currently. Currently Something is better. Currently boaster is better. Currently mako is better

#72
Zerphyr1
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so if the only thing that matters is currently then surely mako would be better than marved as his rating is not even 1 since hes been on sentinels.

#73
GreyDaze
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Yes mako has been consistently the best controller itw for the past 2 yrs, not just currently

#63
yoboikingkong
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boaster is currently better with or without 2 trophies. he literally exposed nrg and made fns his dog in their game, the rotations were out of this world

#69
fapcity
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2022 champions match up: marved went 10/18 against Mako....
2022 copenhagen: the only time marved went positive against him 14/10
2022 Reykjavík: he went 7/11 against mako.....
total is 39- 31- and didnt even bring up the tournament stats yet....
I mean where is this false narrative of Marved winning the individual battle from? He only has team achievement over him and its a TEAM effort for a reason.

#52
Avos
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Stats don’t mean anything. I would still take Marved over Mako anyday. Although both are good, I just feel Marved has way more impact on the game.

#61
GreyDaze
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Why don't stats mean anything lol? Mako is extremely clear of marved.

#59
GreyDaze
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Agree 100% mako is so clear of marved.

#66
Asuna_Yuuki
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Mako ain’t a winner

#70
GooberBoy
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Wow its almost like the player that plays more games in the tournament and goes farther against better competition will have lower ratings as he plays in harsher matches. Mak0 obviously plays good teams and does well but Optic played by far the most series of any teams in the world and had by far the toughest competition per match so of course Marved's numbers will be closer to 1 while Mak0 stands out since he's by far the best player on a good not elite team.

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