NaVi without Ardiis

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Cned can never compare

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blud thinks cNed is the problem lmao

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Aladeenn

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Him raging and banging his table must surely affect team morale

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Chirby

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bro has not seen NRG play

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Aladeenn

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yeah ardiis rages but really compare his rage to cned once

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cned is the calmest mf in the planet. what are you on?? basing him of one or two plays

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K1ru4

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this, victor slammed the table after losing the upper final to LOUD last year and they still won the tourny

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Cned rages in the middle of the game

Its fine to rage after the game

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Asuna_Yuuki

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NRG rage after the game

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K1ru4

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nah, FNS raged when he got fucked by cauazin at lockin too, he killed 4 in the following round

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chick

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Victor is shattering his tables everytime he loses a round on a tough game what you talking about

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You're reading too much into this

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Cned is rager and has no flexibility.

With ardiis they could've had zyppan on Raze.

But instead we have cned who is not and never will be a raze player.

Ever since cned joined, there have been many issues such as role issues that were never there before ardiis joined

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zyppan could still play raze for example a lot of teams plays raze and jett together on split navi can do that but ange1 and doombros ego so high that they had to do something marginal every time. ange1 coach and overthinking are the problems. it is stupid to blame zyppan cned suy or shao they all cracked

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number1_cNed_fan

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so its cneds fault because ange1 forcing him to play raze? blud just whaffling around everywhere rn

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Ya he is cuz he has no flexibility. He nearly lost Navi rounds with how bad his raze ult is. He's a Jett one trick unfortunately. Ardiss and demon1 are setting a new standard for what duelists need to be: very flexible and able to play other agents that benefit their team

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^^ and ardiis aint anywhere as good as people think he is.

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How did u watch that game and think cNed was the issue

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I think the problem rn are the strats and the calling

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Zerphyr1

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agreed

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yoboikingkong

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bro ardiis is dogshit. why do you guys believe ardiis is anything near a top 10 player? navi lost because they didnt have enough practice on real comps, thats completely their fault, but neither did cned do bad, nor is ardiis better.

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at least ardiis is better than the one tournament wonder

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cned literally had impact playing against a demonic kang kang. ardiis literally sprays and prays when it comes to phantom 1v1s. he is tier 1 op-er thats his only saving grace. dont act like ardiis is anywhere near the same level of top 5 duelist in the world.

switch cned to nrg , and he'll show better performance on nrg than ardiis

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GeorgeSantos

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navi lost because they didnt have enough practice on real comps

Whew lad, that’s strong cope

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RealDeal

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How is it cope it’s the truth? Your fkn stupid did you even watch the Navi games?

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GeorgeSantos

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Maybe cry less?

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bro there are 30 teams right 6 players on each team minimum. 30*6 = 180. the average rating is 1 and ardiis has above a 1.1, has won a major and now has made it into masters tokyo and ur saying he's dogshit which would be below top 100 if 90 is average. ardiis is a great player

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i literally said he's "nowhere near a top 10 player".

he is playing the star fragger role on most maps, for a potentially top 4 team in the world. and he's not top 10 player, thats my point.
dont assume me using the word "dogshit" and then make any sort of twisted interpretation you like.

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so someone who is the 11th best player is dogshit?

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yoboikingkong

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again "nowhere near" top 10. means more like top 20. and yeah he is dogshit compared to people's opinion.
people who think he is anywhere close to aspas or yay. dogshit is the emotion. you clearly are dumb enough to not understand this

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ANGE1 is the problem

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Ange1 told me Cned was being a whiny bitch in prac. He was not listening to the strats and just decided to jump in no matter the situation. Expect him or Ange1 to dropped soon.

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There is mostly communicaiton problem because cned dont talk so much during the game and cannot give motivation to his team, on the other hand, ardis he was playing duelist like cned but also he was giving morale to his team constantly. I think they need second IGL because ange1 is coldblooded person he only gives you tactic but not energy not hype not motivation at least ardiis was giving his best to team with his speech.

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how tf do u know comms?

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Athraxin

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shao or suygetsu i dont remember which one but one of them talked about this communucation period with ardiis in an interview.

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Blud is just guessing.Did you watched their voicecoms?.Only reason they lost because ange1's experimenting like they played 5 different comps in split alone. And they picked kj on split against nrg in 2023 + knowing NRG plays double Duelists.

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Athraxin

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not guessing bro i tell the truth this is obvious cned dont talk much but ardiis talks more than anyone.

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Ilkagan9

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watch the navi voice comms videos pls

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Athraxin

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also you should watch fpx voice comms and compare them :)

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Navi is fucked role-wise and comp-wise. Why one of the best initiators Shao playing Astra and Angel playing Sova? Wtf is Cned Yoru? Cned isn't playing as good as he used to do as well. Angel needs to get his shit together

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smizuu

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im never be navi fans but just ange1 fans bro kangkang smokes navi mental so hard btw kangkang(zmjkk) have 55 op kills in 5 maps including vs t1 he is the best operator in the world cant change my mind

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NRG played double duelist on split right in front of them, so why cant cned go jett and zyppan raze? EDG played jett right in front of them in bind, and they put cned on raze fucking up other roles? At this point, the only people to blame are doombros and ange1 because everyone else is doing their bit the best they can in their shit roles.

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Hes not the issue

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elegant

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oh yeah the dude that won champions is the issue lmaoo retard

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soonwookong

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the problem is def comps, strats, and calling instead lol

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Achlys

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Definitely a role issue lol
Ardiis is just miles more flexible than cned who can only play raze and Jett ardiis can also play initiators as well

But yeah Navi kinda sucks rn