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geniune Tokyo rankings

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#1
Subreezy

I know i do the standings = rankings bait all the time but here's my unbiased and geniune ranking since I've watched most of the playoffs VCT games, i'll explain specific teams if anyone asks.

Favorites to win (in no order):

  1. FNC
  2. PRX
  3. LOUD

Contenders to win, but a few small issues are stopping them from winning, will be with top teams if they fix them (in order):

  1. NRG
  2. DRX
  3. TL
  4. Navi

Dark Horses, could make a miracle run and win (in no order):

  1. T1
  2. FUT
  3. EG

No chance of winning, just a regional diff due to skill, could make playoffs though (in no order):

  1. EDG
  2. ASE
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Take your meds old man. PRX ain’t winning shit 😹

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babysasuke
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Bro forgot TL dismantled Lnatic?

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funny_prank
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totally unbiased tier list

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Ailed
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Holy based

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Gutssz
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TL #6 is crazy

and bro said i am biased 💀💀

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DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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do not underestimate hfmi0dzjc9z7

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Subreezy
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Gutssz [#6]

TL #6 is crazy

and bro said i am biased 💀💀

out of all the GF, that game meant the least. 0 stakes since playoffs seeds are seen as equal across all of the regions. why would Fnatic pull out some new shit to win? also TL had the game of their life.

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Subreezy [#9]

out of all the GF, that game meant the least. 0 stakes since playoffs seeds are seen as equal across all of the regions. why would Fnatic pull out some new shit to win? also TL had the game of their life.

yeah NRG better 🐼

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Subreezy
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babysasuke [#3]

Bro forgot TL dismantled Lnatic?

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Subreezy [#7]

i used to not rank them as high, but after their series with DRX they've shown that they've fixed all the issues holding them back

  1. a consistent person to play a 2nd duelist with Jinggg
  2. put forsaken on sentinel, stops him from overheating most of the time and playing numbers
  3. their mental fortitude is INSANE (2-0 to 2-3 comeback against DRX)
  4. shown how diverse their map pool is now (seems like there's no perma bans that they have to do)
  5. shown set plays and have overpeeked MUCH less than they used to (discipline)

when a team is able to fix the issues holding them back, does that not make them an S tier team? what issues does PRX have now?

Drx overrated anyway, prx can’t compete with Nrg and loud ( 2 best teams itw)

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funny_prank [#4]

totally unbiased tier list

just a region diff, China has no teams to play to improve but all of the other regions have teams they could scrim to improve. I think China's unique playstyle could carry them through playoffs, but i think if a team makes it to playoffs all the Playoffs teams will counter-strat them to hell. Chinese teams aren't able to do that yet

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I agree actually although I’d say the miracle run teams also have no chance of winning but they could get top 3. I think once it gets to bo5s, map depth really really matters and none of those teams possess that and a full roster of consistently strong players.

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bro really snuck prx

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zardinez [#14]

I agree actually although I’d say the miracle run teams also have no chance of winning but they could get top 3. I think once it gets to bo5s, map depth really really matters and none of those teams possess that and a full roster of consistently strong players.

that's fair yeah i forgot about the bo5's

but as it stands now, the top teams have maps that they perma ban, so if they fall to lowers their chances of winning become much lower. the dark horse teams have elements of surprise that the top teams can't counter-strat and T1, FUT, and sometimes EG have INSANE aim, kinda why i said it would be a miracle if they won, and they could still win (1-2% chance)

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firefirefirefire [#15]

bro really snuck prx

bro didn't watch Pacific playoffs I guess

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DELUSIONAL_OPTIC_FAN [#2]

Take your meds old man. PRX ain’t winning shit 😹

🤡 You probably don’t even bother watching, last time Paper Rex went head to head with Optic they destroyed them.
This iteration of Paper Rex can actually win. 🤷‍♂️ All you see are Stats and not the actual solution you really are delusional

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MainlyMusubi [#18]

🤡 You probably don’t even bother watching, last time Paper Rex went head to head with Optic they destroyed them.
This iteration of Paper Rex can actually win. 🤷‍♂️ All you see are Stats and not the actual solution you really are delusional

They fluked their way to 2nd once and bombed out every other time 😹. Their braindead “strats” ain’t gonna work against the top 3 teams

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you may be right about PRX cause i didn't watch many pacific games but you're TRIPPING if you think FNC is more favorite than loud

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Ullyr
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Chinese slander is real...

#22
Rendzin
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I'm not even European but I can't understand why those guys still put Fnatic above Liquid, or not even at the same tier. i mean, the boys just won the league over Fnatic

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Rendzin [#22]

I'm not even European but I can't understand why those guys still put Fnatic above Liquid, or not even at the same tier. i mean, the boys just won the league over Fnatic

that game meant nothing for tokyo, TL had the game of their lives, Liquid getting way too overhyped rn

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veyyyyron [#20]

you may be right about PRX cause i didn't watch many pacific games but you're TRIPPING if you think FNC is more favorite than loud

(IN NO ORDER)

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Ullyr [#21]

Chinese slander is real...

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DELUSIONAL_OPTIC_FAN [#12]

Drx overrated anyway, prx can’t compete with Nrg and loud ( 2 best teams itw)

nah, against NRG they can since they have firepower for it.
It's hard to anti tactic a team as PRX too, so PRX can definitely win against NRG.

Against LOUD is hard since LOUD firepower can deal with their aggression.

only teams that can deal with PRX right now is NAVI, FNC, LOUD or even FUT.

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Subreezy [#13]

just a region diff, China has no teams to play to improve but all of the other regions have teams they could scrim to improve. I think China's unique playstyle could carry them through playoffs, but i think if a team makes it to playoffs all the Playoffs teams will counter-strat them to hell. Chinese teams aren't able to do that yet

nah i was talking about prx at 2

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EDG clears

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Obelisk
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:mibr; win it all

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funny_prank [#27]

nah i was talking about prx at 2

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#31
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TL and NRG are a tier ahead of DRX and NAVI and T1 are in there own tier between Navi and EG w/o Demon1

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Subreezy [#13]

just a region diff, China has no teams to play to improve but all of the other regions have teams they could scrim to improve. I think China's unique playstyle could carry them through playoffs, but i think if a team makes it to playoffs all the Playoffs teams will counter-strat them to hell. Chinese teams aren't able to do that yet

apparently some of the chinese team are actually scrimming against the pacific teams. so the chinese teams are actually able to improve from quality scims

https://www.vlr.gg/214729/coach-autumns-stream

All pacific teams are really good on scrim but the most impressive teams were EDG, PRX and JDT(Japan Challengers)
EDG is really a strong contender
When ASE's ace player is on their high's, we cannot stop them

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MainlyMusubi [#18]

🤡 You probably don’t even bother watching, last time Paper Rex went head to head with Optic they destroyed them.
This iteration of Paper Rex can actually win. 🤷‍♂️ All you see are Stats and not the actual solution you really are delusional

The problem I c with prx is I dont think they can keep up with the reyna thing against other teams especially emea. I feel that they can get away with it in pacific bc they just have better players but once they go up against mechanically gifted teams like navi fut loud, I just dont think they can get away with it.

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MainlyMusubi [#18]

🤡 You probably don’t even bother watching, last time Paper Rex went head to head with Optic they destroyed them.
This iteration of Paper Rex can actually win. 🤷‍♂️ All you see are Stats and not the actual solution you really are delusional

Bro that was masters copenhagen...

That is irrelevant now

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SEN_brasileiros [#26]

nah, against NRG they can since they have firepower for it.
It's hard to anti tactic a team as PRX too, so PRX can definitely win against NRG.

Against LOUD is hard since LOUD firepower can deal with their aggression.

only teams that can deal with PRX right now is NAVI, FNC, LOUD or even FUT.

FUT and NaVi can deal with PRX but NRG can't?

What is this terrible take

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Cresp
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EG numba 1 🗿

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moshimoshiman24 [#33]

The problem I c with prx is I dont think they can keep up with the reyna thing against other teams especially emea. I feel that they can get away with it in pacific bc they just have better players but once they go up against mechanically gifted teams like navi fut loud, I just dont think they can get away with it.

thats not an argument until they actually play a game with Reyna on the international level

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Asuna_Yuuki [#35]

FUT and NaVi can deal with PRX but NRG can't?

What is this terrible take

you forget that some teams are strong against others but it doesn't mean that they're better than every other team.

PRX is indeed really strong against NRG because their playstyle and NRG lacks firepower since every strong team has some cracked jett while NRG is the only one without one.

But NRG can defeat other teams that can beat PRX for sure, but PRX >> NRG if ardiis play like this all year.

Crashies can shine
Victor can shine
s0m can shine
ardiis never carried once until now.

If NRG duelist cannot do aggressive plays against teams like PRX, they gonna get destroyed for sure.

#39
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TL won emea league and being placed #6 is such a L take

#40
condsicc
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The two Chinese teams are severely underrated. EDG is definitely a dark horse here at least. They've just gotten pretty unlucky in the past events grouped up with tournament favorites.

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GooberBoy [#31]

TL and NRG are a tier ahead of DRX and NAVI and T1 are in there own tier between Navi and EG w/o Demon1

false

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