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Every duelist can be replaced

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#1
trembolonaRage

Stop overhyping them

Less and saadhak are far more important than aspas
Replace aspas with anyone and LOUD is stil top3 itw

Replace saadhak and they are done
Replace less and they will fall aswell (not even pancada who is 10x more experienced is playing good on sentinel role)

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geometrix
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trembo detected opinion rejected

also spawned with upvote

#3
angels1query
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++++ he's right tho.. aspas is important but rest of loud is still quite decent
Duelists are too overhyped

#4
mocaxoxo
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honestly ... yea i see what you’re putting out

#5
fmadwerdna
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daily hate from trembolona on aspas

#6
DrudaL
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And then we got prx, who replaced their igl to add more duelist

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mysterii
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the key to a good duelist is RAZE. there is a big difference between a raze player and a jett abuser. if riot decides to shift the meta and nerf jett we’ll probably never hear names like cNed or TenZ again :>

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emirerays
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No its not. cNed wasnt a bad chamber bro. His team fell apart. And cNed plays good raze and yoru. He also can play sage really good. And you wouldnt also hear aspas if jett got nerfed and got replaced by a broken agent.

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mysterii
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this is part of the stats copypasta bro

#19
Okoretro
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Bro put cned and good and raze in the same sentence

#24
emirerays
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? Only time he got diffed hard was on lotus against fnatic when they lost 13-4 and he played better raze than derke on fracture so stfu.

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Raevus
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cNed was an average chamber because it favoured the complete opposite of his playstyle.
His Jett during champ1 was by far the best Jett in the world, and he utalised the aggressive nature of Jett, perfectly. Chamber was the complete opposite, forcing him to play more passive, compared to a Jett.

I also agree with you that raze is not the key to a good duelist. Most teams are subbing an initiator flex onto a raze, as they tend to have better rifling mechancis than Jett mains. If teams shift away from Jett, they'll just reallocate opers onto another agent.

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emirerays
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He can play chamber aggressive if he gets set up good. If you watch fpx vs acend qual for copanhagen you will see my point. The real reason you didnt see him last year was because of in the first masters quals zeek did not play some of the most important match and been playing bad because he had issues and after that bonecold and kiles left. So they got vakk and monster. Which is a downgrade. Dont get me wrong i think they are good but not good to be on top level.

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His team was falling apart, but also him forcing chamber wasn't an agent that complimented his skills.
cNed during champs was the best Jett in the world, and he had no competition for how dominant he was. After that his team was falling apart, then him trying to force a chamber wasn't the best plan. On defence it was fine, on attack they didn't have the setups to play aggressive.

cNed at his best was on Jett. On chamber he was just another chamber player amoungst a sea of them, and he didn't stand out anymore. there may have been more factors involved, but the second he went back onto Jett, he started to shine again. cNed was always great at dashing in site and playing his life, over waiting for picks on chamber, or having to get a shot then tp out. It's no secret that chamber messed with a lot of previous Jett mains, with making them change their playstyle due to limited aggression on him during attack rounds.

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emirerays
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Ofc his chamber is not like his jett but all im saying he couldnt be able to carry his team to masters with chamber. If his team didnt fell apart and then they could have qual for everything. I remember sliggy saying after acend won champs they did not lose single pracc until end of the february. They were shitting on everyone.

#29
SENneedstacpausetowin
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Aspas can literally play raze, Jett is simply the better agent

#38
emirerays
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When did aspas played raze ?

#39
Pengu12
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Champs

#8
gamr
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this is probably a bait since it’s trembo but unironically you are right

#9
emirerays
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You cant replace aspas with "anyone" the one you are getting is just needs to be as good as him. Go and replace aspas with heat and see if they even qual.

#10
rina
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less and saadhak are important, but aspas is not just "any duelist"

#11
Manaphy
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Well it depends on play style and comfortability on certain agents.

#12
h786
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completely correct, tenz would be amazing with a good support system

#13
NAclearsSA
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Nah man Aspas is the rock they rely on when going gets tough. Less ain't that guy in those times. Aspas is ALWAYS there carrying when need be

#16
trembolonaRage
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He bottomfragged 3 maps against DRX

He lacks consistency

#18
NAclearsSA
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He's their most consistent player tho. Having a bad game doesn't equal inconsistent

#17
Simp4S0m
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Loud will turn into a mid team without Aspas

#20
KyLZi
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I think you can have a goat duelist player though which is either Aspas or derke atm which really helps a team.

#22
SigmaMale
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stfu aspas owns midzera

#23
Altamira
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i mean yeah that's kind of true for every team
if you take boaster out of fnatic, ange1 out of navi, fns out of nrg, all of a sudden, that team sucks and probably will suck for the foreseeable future no matter who you replace them with.
if you replace aspas with any other competent jett player, at least the team is still functional and doesn't immediately fall apart.

#27
Nachtel
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replace aspas with wolfen and say that again

#31
Itsover
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Replace aspas with Shao on jett and loud become top 1 itw.

#28
luckypleb
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he has a point

#32
Luck_
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every duelist except goatski. ge put him on duel and he will dominate the whole pacific then the world

#33
Itsover
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skrossi clears

#34
Luck_
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GOATSSI AND GOATSKI TO DOUBLE DUELIST AND DROP TWO 30 BOMBS EACH LETS GOOOO

#35
aylez
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you gotta say aspas is a KEY piece to LOUD’s success though. guy almost single-handedly saved LOUD against SEN and won a miracle round in split pistol vs KRU today. he is simply very individually talented and has great decision making. obviously his team is just as great as he is, especially less and chaadhak, but aspas’ individual plays are game changing. he always manages to make an unbelievable clutch to set the pace for LOUD’s victories. replace aspas with most average franchised duelists and you would not see the same results you are seeing right now.

#36
Dolphin
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You can't be replaced tho 🥰

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