TenZ was the problem

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Jeffo

Not a bait, I mean it everything about him was wrong, roles were messed up and he wasn't performing as an oper duelist, Marved on Sen looks good and fitting

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truth

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and sacy who dropped about 1 kill on pearl last week isn’t...

make it make sense...

why are we blaming tenz when coaching decisions was the problem

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🤡😵‍💫

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how was TenZ responsible for role overlaps lmao?

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His agent pool is so small?

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do you know what role overlap means?

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Jeffo

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He doesn't even play a role fully, jett is not a role, he can't even play raze or neon

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He has said before he's willing to learn and play any agent

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but he never play thos agents for once, not even in ranked he keep playing reyna and jet on ranks lmao..

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jawn

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THAT IS WHY HE FLEXES OFF THE DUELIST ROLE, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY MATCHES?

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Jeffo

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He played sage and kayo and wasn't good at them, his kayo is as good as his raze

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jawn

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he was a pretty good kayo and sage what are you talking about?

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Jeffo

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Let's not talk about kda on sage, but you realize your sage having the lowest KAST on the team is bad? He has 63% kast on sage, even on duelist that's low, on sage it's disastrous

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Own that fraud

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jawn

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his util and holds were really really good, aside from that one throw he had on split he was playing a very good sage, watch the matches for once stats will never tell the whole story

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and dephh had 50-52 KAST w/ initiators in the loud match, how do you cope that? was he entrying every single round alone?

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Bro was playing even with Sage and Kayo lol. Thats not the problem, you just want someone to blame

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Jeffo

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He was bad on all of them, agent pool means agents you're good at, TenZ is only good at Jett and even that is doubtful lately

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Gomes255

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so he has to top frag on support agents?

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Jeffo

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I didn't even talk about stats, he played bad, even his walls and slows weren't good

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h9zard

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even the casters were prasing his wall timings and slows to support pancada on site. stop capping brother.

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dawg what are you on?, they prob practice with those walls and slows 💀💀💀. Its not like he puts random walls/slows. Man knows nothing about team tactics. team abilities are with team consensus

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Jeffo

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Timings of slows i meant, that's about the player being used to the agent not prac

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sgares literally complemented his sage saying tenz looks really good on the sage and he has a good understanding of how to use the wall and slows etc, you think you're smarter than sgares then go hit up 100t they could use it

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sy0

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no, he need to play the role great

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his sage stats are better than his jett stats rn

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His sage, kayO and whatever else they put him on looked really good. There were some mishaps here and there but other than that his performance on other agents were on upward trajectory. What are you saying?

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h9zard

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Its the same as aspas and cNed. Why dont those teams have problems? The role problem was dephh wanting to play his comfortable role not cause of tenz.

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Chow1E

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he can flex tbh, but the playstyle more to awper instead support etc

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Cheddar

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Counterpoint. Aspas only plays 1 agent.

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more that zekken struggles on controller ig

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Do you even read what you're saying?
Sacy and pANcada's roles were reversed literally because of TenZ and zekken existing, and surely you don't think TenZ is better than zekken, still confused?

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dephh occupied controller and initiator multiple times, sacy and pancada's roles

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it definitely was not zekken and i guess tenz cause he rarely showed a good agent pool till somewhat recently but it 100% was dephh he chose to play roles like smokes and initiator mainly initiator where he has superior players in Sacy and Pancada who are just better in those roles

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lost to a guy who doesnt even OP 😂😂😂😂

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The only thing u said that is really about him is the performance. Everything else is a coach/management problem.
I dont believe TenZ was the problem. Sykko definitely was.

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^

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Jeffo

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Him being on the team was the problem*
Is this rephrasing better?

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Rigodelas

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no, lol

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Speaking facts

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h9zard

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Bro why is no one talking about the comp change or the reads?

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the comp issue is caused because dephh wanted a comfortable role and syyko granted it.

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L post

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Roles + poor igling and poor strats were the main problem

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Nope. Bot a fanboy, but having infection in hand, covid and your girlfriend/fiancé having cancer are the primary reasons, I guess. Not to mention, SEN looked polished. Zekken hardly smoke-dashed in the site unlike tenz. I feel because of coach, calling changed a lot too. It was so annoying watching tenz smoke-dash in the site as their primary strategy for half the attack rounds they played.

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Based

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roles/sykko/split coaching was the problem. I do rly hope the roster becomes permanent six man though, all six in a fluid roster could be insane

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Yeah, it's roles. Deph should not have been on initiator, that's the main problem. I do think though, Tenz shouldn't play on double smokes maps, they limit duelists - especially Opers - too much for it to be worth it. But still, the main problem has always been reducing Sacy's role. It also helps that that map was the best Pancada has looked. They trusted him so much more than before.

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Adrik

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Tenz fangirls mad cause bad

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You can't put all the blame on tenz.
So many positive changes have transpired in sentinels.
Sacy looks alot more comfortable back on his signature role.
Double controller on pearl looks better.

Personally, Zekken looks better as an entry player than tenz right now.
This may be due to Zekken being the entry player for xset during the chamber meta.

Oh yeah, Tenz also being injured and ill definitely weakened his performance last week.

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I don’t think TenZ was the problem. I think the coaching strategy of, “TENZ GO DIE” was the problem. Now the strategy is, “EVERYONE GO KILL”

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ZhangWei

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Tenz has been struggling since Masters 1 and the fact yall dont see it until now boggles me.
They blamed & got rid of zombs, shahz, dapr and everyone else because they were the "problem" & not Tenz but Sen still suck ass even after that. Zekken is better overall u can prove me wrong if u disagree

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Zoil

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It's somehow EVERYTHING ELSE, ALWAYS. Tenz doing bad? Shahzam. Or Dephh. Or sickness. Doing great in his absence? Kaplan diff! Tenz fans would have us believe reality manages to constantly bend around Tenz's underperformances. And if you suggest he's the problem? Somehow you're an asshole instead of it being merely sport discussion.

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Im not sure Tenz is the problem (maybe he is the part of it), but Sykko is def the problem. We see, the strats is much better on the first map, and sacy back to initiator is a good decision.

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facts
Without him, they almost beat loud.
loud is the top three teams in the world.

#57

ZhangWei

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Make that top 2, they're the only one who can challenge our lord & savior derke & leo.

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Tenz is just going thru a rough time right now
Like holy are you even a real human
Have some sort of decency, at least he is there trying to help his teamates as much as he can
finger injury + fiance has cancer
Like god damn i would like to see you play better

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ZhangWei

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Tenz is having many personal problems right now and i empathize with that, he is still good but i gotta ask u did u really not find anything wrong with the way he plays since after Masters 1? I always feel like after Masters 1 he didn't improve/grow at all or maybe it's just because other players have surpassed him already.

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aspas plays jett on every single map but they make it work but sure tenz is the problem mhm