MSG TO BRAZIL | TARIK

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Stratie

https://clips.twitch.tv/JazzyCrazyBaboonTBCheesePull-1pSG0uVcmq76su-D
I hope at least some of you people get what he meant.
GGs FNC deserved it.
100%.

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Tarik supported both brazil and the crowd till the end. At least hear him out.

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Bro ppl are hearthbroken and you expect them to stay there and listem to Fnatic's inteview, lmao

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h9zard

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Yes. Show some respect. So ur telling me if the same happened to a Brazilian team in EU you guys would be okay with it?

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Yes? i mean, here's csgo Furia playing a major in front of an empty crowd in EU https://i.imgur.com/AHYrAUM.jpg

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solsolid

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so? two wrongs don't make one right

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h9zard

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How is this the same? Was this the finals? Did the crowd boo the whole time and just leave when their fav team lost?

I'm not even mad that the crowds weren't full all the other days. But it's plain disrespect to just walk out before the winners lifted the trophy.

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Mirekz

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How can the crowd leave if they didn't even show up to begin with?

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h9zard

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You are putting up a completely unrelated picture from a different esport with zero context of what the game was, what stage in the tournament it was etc. And the crowd isn't even empty there is still people watching and cheering. Dont act like its the same thing we both know its not. Also if it was as bad as you are saying, then you guys are completely justified in feeling disrespected. But that doesn't make this situation any better.

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Sketters

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The probelm with this match was that it wasn't the final and its 2 tier 2 teams fighting... No one really wants to watch tier 2 cs

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Mirekz

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Then why people talked so much shit about Rio Major when people choose to stay outside in the fanfest instead of watching t2 teams playing?

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TKfour

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LOUD was celebrated in istanbul and there was EMEA people listening to the interviews of the players

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It was an American vs a Brazilian team in the finals tho, ofc people would cheer, it would only be fair to compare if a Turkish team made to the finals and choked a 11-3 lead in the last map.

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not a final, in EU so of course less brazilians but you can still see people there, and its versus spirit bro its nowhere near the same

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That game started at 9 PM on a Thursday. People had to work/go to school the next day so of course it wasn't going to be full unless it was a crazy match-up (Which it wasn't).

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honestly i would not care, my team won, its all that matters

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Of course we would be okay. If our team won and we are happy, why would we care If the crowd is leaving?

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Stratie

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You are not looking at the bigger picture.

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Renvas

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Litrally anyone with an ounce of respect would stay.. Wait until Tokyo and the next tourament in a country that knows sportmanship

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They would stay too if it was 2 non Brazilian teams, but like i said they were heartbroken cus they just watched Loud losing a 11-3

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brain dead take they will stay even if japan team lose a final 13-0 13-0 13-0 they respect the sport not like brazil barbarians love the sport not the country

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Renvas

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Sure they can be heartbroken but its not like this is news?

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gonfreacks

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That's called sportsmanship bro...its never happen in any other country...See how Istanbul show respect to LOUD when they lifted the trophy?

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Mirekz

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My bad, didn't realize that Loud beat a Turkish team in the finals.

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Alfayer, the only Turkish player at the tournament, made FNC huge fan favorites and when they got knocked out the fans didn't act like brazilian fans. If you try and deny this you clearly didn't watch it bc the Turkish fans were so mf loud for them and so crushed when they lost yet they still acted respectfully to all players and teams.

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Go watch the VOD m8, crowd was dead silent when DRX beat Fnatic, and ofc that there will be people cheering for every team in EU, since EU is made up of small countries and its easy to travel, unlike Brazil where everybody will be cheering for Loud.

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Bro u only address one complaint and it's the worst one. OFC Brazilian fans should root for their favorites but don't leave and boo FNC for winning. THAT is what is disrespectful and makes it a L crowd. Bozos on VLR who expect ppl to root for teams going against the fan favorites r dumb but the crowd should still be respectul.

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Mirekz

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They didn't boo fnatic for winning, stop making shit up

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gonfreacks

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Lmao...that's exactly the different between respect and disrespectful behavior of crowd in esport...
Also if you want to see exactly how to home crowd behave when their team lost. See the event in Japan. They still clapping/cheer even though Japan team lost to other countries. Your argument is just a justification for bad things that should NEVER exist in any esport event.

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Stop being such a snowflake, it happens literally in every sport, i mean, you're from Canada, go to youtube and type "NHL: Booing Moments" and see how respectful Canadians are in sport.

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LMAO...bad takes...you should know, comparing two bad things doesn't make either one right...
I dont follow NHL, but I knew in other sport like football, badminton, most of fans still give a respect even though their team/player lost whether in the final/no at their home. So dont said like it happen every time in every sport, because surely you dont watch sport a lot.
ofc every sport/esport has a L crowd. But never in my life seeing the disrespect esport crowd like in this event.

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Mirekz

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Football? u mean american football? cus if its not then you should know that European crowds even have racist chants, and they also throw stuff at players, so stop pretending that being "disrespectful" to opponents only happens in Brazil.

"But never in my life seeing the disrespect esport crowd like in this event."

Well, you're probably new to esports then. since we talking about Fnatic bein disrespected, here's Fnatic bein disrespected in EU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXaxnuomYwE

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gonfreacks

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You keep trying to justify the L behavior of the crowd by comparing the bad ones, while in reality, this behavior occurs only a few if we compare it to the number of events that have been done. Surely all of the L behavior you mentioned should not exist in any Sport/Esport.
Also, if we specifically talk about valorant, the crowd in Brazil is the worst thing that I have ever seen so far.

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Mirekz

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I'm not trying to justify, i'm just showing that it literally happens everywhere while you try to make it seem like it only happens in Brazil.

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gonfreacks

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ofc, we talk about valorant. unfortunately, this is the first time I have seen that kind of behavior of crowd if we compare to Copenhagen and Istanbul. Not to mentioned with Japan, since I also follow some of their event. They really respect the opponent team although their favorite/home team lose.

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SENTINELA_SACY_FAN

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RayzerGH

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I think, Brazil need to get better at this for real, our crowd would be better. But it's difficult cause there are some influencer (bit of them) that put Brazil in a bubble (it's like brazil is isolated from the whole world, and all people that aren't brazilians are against us, and we need to "fight" then, so people that don't live in Brazil have a bad idea, but everyone that was in the tournament said good things about the crowd) against the wod

Other, thing is that brazilians get too attached to idols, than love for the game itself. That's it, nobody from Fnatic is an idol to brazil, so the crowd doesn't love them. It's hard to fix it, because it would need more tournaments here to people start loving other non-brazilians players.

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ufc

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can u elaborate the 2nd part (inflencer, bubble?)

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archetype

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remember those threads where brazilian users would victimise themselves?
"its us vs the world, everyone doubting us and LOUD" etc.?

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ufc

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I do recall

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RayzerGH

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Explained better

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ufc

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thanks for the explanation, now i understand better

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Stratie

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I think Trembolona and some brazilians (Don't remember names) posted many threads on how NA and other regions (started with sentinels) disrespect BR. Well, I don't know who all said that (streamers or pro players) but, what he said is indeed true. There were MANY tweets which talk about how they should stop supporting another team...etc etc..and how it is shameful for them. It started with SEN (zombs case, which is reasonable). But after this event? seems like they carried it all the way. I don't remember much but this thing started way before. If you are genuinely curious, then I will try to find them.

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ufc

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That would be lovely, I am genuinely curious

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Stratie

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Although I am a bit lazy atm ill try 😁

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ufc

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i am sorry if you've mistaken me for actual brazilian (i am not), flag/flair just to show support

so didn't understand anything ^_^'

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RayzerGH

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He said manly for me, but here it is:

"Yes bro, what it takes to be a streamer/influencer summarizing the world as "gringo" and putting Brazil in a box is immense, and if you continue with this kind of attitude you get the same in return...

Now hold TrashTalk QUIET"

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DopplerEffect

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Gaules is the name, the guy is a deep shit

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Do you also think it could be that a lot of the fans that showed up don't actually have a passion for Valorant as a game but rather are there just to support their fellow Brazilians? It would make sense for why they didn't stay to congratulate the winner because they don't really have passion or respect for the game but only came to support their country.

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RayzerGH

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Yes, actually i think it's a mix of a lot of other factors, all the stream ended quickly too. I don't know what the rules inside are. The fans factor is true, there are like the "organized cheerleaders" from the team, that doesn't have passion for the game (but i don't think it's like that, because a lot of fans really love the game), it's hard to say why this happens, i think there should an event where br crowd could have more contact with non-brazilians players, it feels like this tournament didn't gave this opportunity

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RedditGGGB

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Better leaving than booing

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Stratie

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uhm. I guess?

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Prontera

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U really booing the winning teams after a hell of performance? I guess the crowds come for loud only not for the game.

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Kai__

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bro boing doesn't even come to the equation

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Refusee

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He is completely right, many people said the same thing at CS:GO Major Rio because when there were no Brazilian teams playing, the stadium was empty. This is shameful.

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Mirekz

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Bro stop spreading lies, the finals in Rio major was between two underdog non Brazilian teams that nobody cared about, and the arena was still packed https://clips.twitch.tv/MagnificentImportantAmazonGOWSkull-GaDdATcN-SnhG9eb

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but the atmosphere was shit.

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Mirekz

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Funny cus its always the same excuse, after the finals everybody was claiming that the arena was empty, so i went to the VOD and made that clip to prove it was packed, then ppl are like "but the athmosphere was bad", we just can't win.

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That was ESL's fault for dividing the crowd for some odd reason.

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Prontera

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Spread this kind words.

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tarik has become well spoken lmao this is not the peanut brain from back in the day

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Stratie

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why did u do him like dat.

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Hes right and wrong, cant force people to cheer for the enemy team and fake love. He should be asking why didnt anyone outside of brazil came to the event and cheered for their respective teams. I literally saw only loud tshirts and 1 fnc fan amongst them

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because Brazil is far from Europe,not like Istanbul Champions

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Brusli97

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Ah yes... Because it is so easy and cheap to travel for 3 weeks, leaving all your work and/or studies, considering a lot of fans are youngsters, to a country where you most likely need a visa unless you're from the US and maybe 3-4 other countries. If the event is held in "that place" you'll mostly have people from that place, it's simple as that... You don't have to force people to cheer or show fake love, but to show basic sportsmanship... Bad sportsmanship is always frown up, and it's even worse when it comes from the competitors (not the case here), hence why it is always a hot topic whenever stuff like that happens.

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AfricanBalls

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If I'm not mistaken, people from countries that make up the European Union only need to present their passports to enter Brazil.

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h9zard

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I dont think he said anything about cheering for the enemy team. He even said the booing was great and it shows passion and shit. The fucked part is they just left the arena after they lost. FNC earned that trophy they deserve to be shown some respect. It was just sad to see no one in the audience when they were lifting the trophy and speaking.

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W Tarik real talk

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you forgot this 🗿

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cryyBAE

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Fuck Tarik

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He’s right and some of you are trying to justify bad sportsmanship by any means.

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Crybaby

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cryyBAE

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You guys are crying because we don't clap for FNC.

Poor FNC don't get the stadium attention Ç.Ç

Poor Boaster all his clownery was in vain T.T

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Tarik the goat

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tarik pague meu uber pra voltar pra casa então