How is shahz right/wrong?

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sentinelmain377

How is shahz in the right?
If he was really told and agreed to “please play with shroud, we don’t care if you win just make it hype. we’ll personally guarantee you a spot in franchising if you do”, that means Shahz agreed to hype > winning games... Now he just slandering Sentinels name cuz they kicked him out. the hell

am i missing something? barely kept up with valorant for the off-season.

only ppl that arent trolling reply pls

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dexter000111

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If it's not in the contract it's not guaranteed
The end

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sheahhhh

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true but SEN is still a shitty org for that

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h786

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a promise is a promise tho, how can you trust anyone if you don't believe in someone's word..

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zen-o

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Yeah, i don’t get why people are saying “it’s shahz fault for not getting it in contract”

It might be dumb of him to not get it in contract, but it reflects Sen’s scummy management as a whole too

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There is no such thing as promise when you talk to corporate people. Money is what drive them.

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It was narrated from Abu Dharr that the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said:
"There are three to whom Allah will not speak on the Day of Resurrection, or will He look at them, or sanctify them, and theirs will be a painful torment: Abu Dharr said:" May they be lost and doomed: The Prophet (PBUH) said: "The one who drags his lower garments (out of pride and arrogance (below the ankles)), the one who sells his product by means of false oaths, and the one who reminds others (Al-Mannan) of what he has given to them"

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smaul_daung

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Well good thing the Sen CEO is not a Muslim. Inshallah he finds God tho.

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INSHALLAH

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romanval

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as if sen would keep shahz instead of players like sacy pancada dephh zekken like bro, idc if its in the contract he needs to go

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dexter000111

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Rob says he didn't make any promise to shazam in the first place
So it's shazam's word against rob's. Either of them could be lying.

What I wanna say is shazam shouldn't be slandering the org on twitter if there was no concrete breach of contract

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sheahhhh

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no if someone lied he should call them out no matter if its illegal or legal, its morally wrong he can say that

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dexter000111

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yeah exactly, ratzam is lying and Rob is W CEO for calling it out

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sheahhhh

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yes shahzham just made up some bullshit out of nowhere where he has no reason to lie and rob the CEO of a corporate company that u are currently riding is telling the truth

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dexter000111

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Yes, bcoz that rat has a history of lying publicly and has a huge victim complex, and idiots like you fall for it anyway

Dephh is a superior IGL and SEN wanted to win, so in no way were they wrong to kick shazam out. In fact this should have happened way back in Challengers

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sheahhhh

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dephh cant even igl on one side of the map
where did shahz lie btw? u just spew bs

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dexter000111

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He said Rob promised him a spot in franchise in exchange for playing with shroud. Rob denies ever having made this promise. I choose to believe the guy who doesn't have a long history of lying and stitching

Also he threw mud at shroud as if he's some shit player who is just there coz he's rich. Shroud wasn't even top 10 on the list of reasons why that old roster failed miserably

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sheahhhh

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where is the history of lying?
shroud was the biggest reason they didn't qual for LCQ and I'm not even saying that for shahz's sake, I said the same thing when the games were happening, even before
also shahz wouldn't just make up bullshit out of thin air, he literally quoted him

continue thread →

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you're right but it still shows how scummy sentinels is. breaking promises and backstabbing a loyal employee was not the way to go

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FNEGGS

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In the suit, Moore claims the Kroenke group completing that deal without his knowledge was a violation of a verbal joint venture agreement made between him and Josh Kroenke in January pertaining to the operation of the Kroenke's esports initiatives.

But he tried to sue over a verbal agreement?
You cant have it both ways
https://www.espn.co.uk/esports/story/_/id/27304848/sentinels-ceo-sues-kroenke-sports-entertainment-echo-fox-purchase

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brobeans

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u realize how cold hearted and shit that sounds right?

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Reminds me of Daniel Levy and Harry Kane issue

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zen-o

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Sen shouldn’t have released that skit
Shahz shouldn’t have fed into it

Overall, they’re both in the wrong. Sen slandering Shahz and Shahz firing back.

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this, they both in the wrong.

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smaul_daung

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Honestly the only pro shaz viewpoint that holds water imo is that the skit was in bad taste. Bc it was.

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jawn

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SEN throwing away their players' effort for clout then dropping everyone 3 months later because "they don't like the clout org narrative, they want to compete" , also repetitively not trying in the slightest to communciate with players (zombs, shahz, dapr, rawkus, kanpeki) nor meet their needs with actual coaching staff instead of signing content creators

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That team most likely wasn't going far anyway. Even IF they picked up a better player than Shroud. Don't agree with how either side handled it tho (shaz or Sen) but theres nothing wrong with picking up Shroud either. It was hype. It was entertainment.

I'm guessing Shaz was very against it cus he just wants to win but also wants to compete at the top (why they apparently promised him a spot) but reality is that team still wasn't going anywhere.

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jawn

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that team with a subpar controller player and 3 weeks of bootcamp went head to head with teams like TG and 100T, they absolutely had a chance of qualifying and competing in champions and their management was like "nah just farm clout for us to get into franchising instead"

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NG1nS

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nope they're management was like "ohh ok since our igl just fucking streams all year and has 0 motivation and takes 0 accountability for anything WE MIGHT AS WELL GO 100% entertainment fuck it"

something like that buddy.
delusional kids actually thinking orgs are paying players to throw lmfao fucking braindead people

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jawn

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how about actually getting proper support system for your players instead of making them coach/analyst/player/content creator because you're a cheap fuck, the fact that you would rather support the org instead of the player that actually did everything is apalling

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Ullyr

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Shahz decided to blow up the situation and drama cause of a banter tweet.

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jimjam789

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ahhh yes the classic 'hey let's shittalk a former employee and further ruin his reputation and disguise it as banter so our 12 year old fans don't realise ^^ '. banter isn't personal, this was personal

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Bro it's literally a banter video nothing serious about it, sen twitter does it all the time. Shahz ego can't take it and has to be unprofessional and backhand shroud too but yes ride his dick harder. Pretty much drama farming as always.

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Nah I love shitting on shaz as much as anyone else, but to say that this is an ordinary bit of banter is ... Not correct

Find one other example of a major org flaming a former player in this way and I'll admit I'm wrong.

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HardStuckGold

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Homie said let me throw in some drama, wait a couple hours for it to blow up then stream and steal twitch primes from 9 year olds who ride his dick lmfao

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sentinelmain377

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W of the month 2: HardStuckGold

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sheahhhh

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u the type of dude to get insulted and take it like a bxtch

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HardStuckGold

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yeh cus im gonna get insulted and just cry about it by myself dumbass

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sheahhhh

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so ur a bxtch? makes sense

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Kai__

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bro shaz is literally behaving like ronaldo

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Nahbooo

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Ronaldo has great skills and is considered as legend, while Shazam doesn't

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Kai__

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💀...i meant ruining their reputation at the end corner of their career

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we live in a society

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NG1nS

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it's funny how you guys think shahzam is saying this because he got "backstabbed" or because he wasn't told he was getting cut from the team and shit, that rat would still shit talk them even if they licked his feet
that's the kind of guy he is salty petty and a crybaby can't understand how he's getting a spot in G2

honestly i don't really like steel but MAN was he right when he said shahzam is like a cockroach he will always find a way out to survive and resurface

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Guys, its impossible to know if shaz is telling the truth. It's his word against theirs

If he is telling the truth, then Sentinels is hard trolling and is a dumb org.
If not, Shaz is the biggest rat in the scene.

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Mf streaming instalock Jett 6 hours/day since ever, played sova in tournaments and people still believe this clown was giving a single fuck about taking his team seriously.

Look at every pro streaming: they never instalock a agent they never played in tournaments with this frequency.

You guys are so naive to be fooled by this clown

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sentinelmain377

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Ye ye I agree with u

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Ullyr

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Yep but ppl actually defending him lol

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things change

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vern

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dont like shaz but yall just hating cuz its shaz. If it was anyone else, all of you'd be sucking their dick and you know it.