Isn’t that a very good deal for NaVi?
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NaVi buy FPX for 500K
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LiebertyVAL [#2]Oh it is but they can’t afford 1Mill and the extra 500K for Ardiis
I'm really wondering how much NRG paid for Ardiis
ShyftNot1 [#6]bruh, 500k is such a scam. top 3 coach + top 5 IGL + 3 of the top 20 best players itw (imo) for 500k. this team will probably get navi that money back just from the winnings of the first year.
the rest is ok, but ange1 isnt even in top 10 lmao
ColdWKey [#5]I'm really wondering how much NRG paid for Ardiis
Bleed $1 milion player
reply from Seulgi
What? They broke the offer because it would be a 150K buyout on top of a 250K salary and a 250K signing bonus
kenshy [#7]the rest is ok, but ange1 isnt even in top 10 lmao
not top 10? no shot. fns, saadhak and then ange1 on my list. maybe stax and boaster if you really wanna pull some name out of nowhere. but he's top 3 in my books, i just know that he doesn't have the best stats so i said top 5.
kenshy [#7]the rest is ok, but ange1 isnt even in top 10 lmao
Ange1 is a top 5 igl. U are just lying to urself if u think otherwise
kenshy [#7]the rest is ok, but ange1 isnt even in top 10 lmao
????
won challengers 1
won istanbul
2nd place at challengers 2
4th place at champions
tell me ur top 10 igls please
Adam_Sandler [#12]Envy bought yay from Andbox a year ago for the same price LOOOOL
FPX (the org) actually sold the bag lol
Adam_Sandler [#12]Envy bought yay from Andbox a year ago for the same price LOOOOL
NA esports market is something else. Sentinels bought TenZ for 1mil+ in valo's first competitive year
ShyftNot1 [#6]bruh, 500k is such a scam. top 3 coach + top 5 IGL + 3 of the top 20 best players itw (imo) for 500k. this team will probably get navi that money back just from the winnings of the first year.
they won fpx 380k more or less during 2022
500k more or less is what LOUD and OpTiC won during 2022
number1_MIBR_hater [#16]they won fpx 380k more or less during 2022
500k more or less is what LOUD and OpTiC won during 2022
i was being hyperbolic but still, didn't know that they only won 380k. maybe if they could've gone to reykjavic.
juugobr_ [#15]NA esports market is something else. Sentinels bought TenZ for 1mil+ in valo's first competitive year
C9 bought Yay for 5mil W
Perma [#18]W Navi, sign s1mple to valo roster then navi wins every event
agreed. he became washed up in cs, time to change
ShyftNot1 [#6]bruh, 500k is such a scam. top 3 coach + top 5 IGL + 3 of the top 20 best players itw (imo) for 500k. this team will probably get navi that money back just from the winnings of the first year.
Is it scam tho? More like reasonable price. That's why EMEA doesn't have similar problems with outrageous buyouts like NA does. But yeah its cheaper than I thought, but some crazy individual buyouts really inflate the scene and its not good when teams have to pay that for 1 player.
patuj [#23]Is it scam tho? More like reasonable price. That's why EMEA doesn't have similar problems with outrageous buyouts like NA does. But yeah its cheaper than I thought, but some crazy individual buyouts really inflate the scene and its not good when teams have to pay that for 1 player.
The prices are based on the value of the players.
If NA orgs wanted the FPX bots they would have paid whatever they were worth.
Sadly the whole team is worth half of yay alone zzzzzzzzzzzz
ChromeDZN [#25]Costs half of tenz buyout when all players >= Tenz
Fair but tenz was more of a brand than anything else
babysasuke [#24]The prices are based on the value of the players.
If NA orgs wanted the FPX bots they would have paid whatever they were worth.
Sadly the whole team is worth half of yay alone zzzzzzzzzzzz
deadass c0m's buyout is probably the same as all of fpx 💀
nutab1e [#27]deadass c0m's buyout is probably the same as all of fpx 💀
c0m not even primary IGL anymore and would be better than ange0 and Loaster 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
GreyDaze [#26]Fair but tenz was more of a brand than anything else
look at tenz brand, he was the biggest valo streamer in 2020-mid 2021, these guys barely average like 1k viewers
babysasuke [#24]The prices are based on the value of the players.
If NA orgs wanted the FPX bots they would have paid whatever they were worth.
Sadly the whole team is worth half of yay alone zzzzzzzzzzzz
it's just NA orgs that treat their videogame players like NBA stars
juugobr_ [#32]it's just NA orgs that treat their videogame players like NBA stars
are you saying this like its a good thing or a bad thing
babysasuke [#33]are you saying this like its a good thing or a bad thing
to the market? it's a bad thing ofc
juugobr_ [#35]to the market? it's a bad thing ofc
How is there going to be longevity in the scene if orgs use player's starpower for branding and sponsorships and doesn't compensate them appropriately
This isnt NA fucking up the esports econonmy, the problem is other orgs from other regions' lack of earning to actually pay their players.
ShyftNot1 [#17]i was being hyperbolic but still, didn't know that they only won 380k. maybe if they could've gone to reykjavic.
if they placed 2nd on reykjavic they would get those 500k
number1_MIBR_hater [#40]if they placed 2nd on reykjavic they would get those 500k
not unlikely, considering EMEA's 2nd seed got 5th-6th and they weren't even close to FPX.
Perma [#30]look at tenz brand, he was the biggest valo streamer in 2020-mid 2021, these guys barely average like 1k viewers
That's what I am saying
babysasuke [#38]How is there going to be longevity in the scene if orgs use player's starpower for branding and sponsorships and doesn't compensate them appropriately
This isnt NA fucking up the esports econonmy, the problem is other orgs from other regions' lack of earning to actually pay their players.
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LiebertyVAL [#2]Oh it is but they can’t afford 1Mill and the extra 500K for Ardiis
if navi is offering a 250k contract to ardiis(assume a 15% raise from his fpx salary) and nrg in NA is offering him 300k+ he gets to live in la, he would definitely go their. navi did what they could, but if ardiis alone is asking for a lot then you need to look from the orgs perspective. the exact same thing happened with loud, like obviously they couldnt keep all 5 players who all wanted a raise(rightfully so)
babysasuke [#8]Bleed $1 milion player
reply from Seulgi
What? They broke the offer because it would be a 150K buyout on top of a 250K salary and a 250K signing bonus
bleed offering ardiis 1 million to play in apac in a clout deficient reigion is different from nrg paying ardiis 500k to play with the most popular english speaking roster(other then sen)
symbols07 [#49]bleed offering ardiis 1 million to play in apac in a clout deficient reigion is different from nrg paying ardiis 500k to play with the most popular english speaking roster(other then sen)
I'm just saying thats what he was going for
and I take the wording from the post as Bleed backed out of it (thankfully for them because ardiis is a boosted bot and will not be able to perform with shao and suygetsu carrying his ass)
symbols07 [#49]bleed offering ardiis 1 million to play in apac in a clout deficient reigion is different from nrg paying ardiis 500k to play with the most popular english speaking roster(other then sen)
100T and C9 are more popular than NRG
Otherwise, your point stands that it makes sense to get paid big in America, live there, and get more fans
no1haterbutloveyou2 [#45]He can play jett and kay/o?
he also used to sova and raze back in g2, pretty much a flex. i remember mixwell praising him to be their best player and it showed when he left.
ShyftNot1 [#9]not top 10? no shot. fns, saadhak and then ange1 on my list. maybe stax and boaster if you really wanna pull some name out of nowhere. but he's top 3 in my books, i just know that he doesn't have the best stats so i said top 5.
You're talking about the dude who went -28 against DRX on only 2 maps, meanwhile only 1 other person on his team was negative (-9), and the rest went positive, meaning he single-handedly lost them the games against DRX. That guy is top 10? Worse than Stax? I don't want whatever you're smoking
GreyDaze [#11]Ange1 is a top 5 igl. U are just lying to urself if u think otherwise
Going -28 on 2 maps ain't worth being a good igl. Diamond player big brain < Radiant small brain
idkmate99 [#55]You're talking about the dude who went -28 against DRX on only 2 maps, meanwhile only 1 other person on his team was negative (-9), and the rest went positive, meaning he single-handedly lost them the games against DRX. That guy is top 10? Worse than Stax? I don't want whatever you're smoking
dont bother arguing with this guy
ange1 and boaster in a top 10 list has to be a bait
Perma [#30]look at tenz brand, he was the biggest valo streamer in 2020-mid 2021, these guys barely average like 1k viewers
+1 its pretty much what's keeping SEN afloat to this day lmao he adds so much clout
idkmate99 [#52]100T and C9 are more popular than NRG
Otherwise, your point stands that it makes sense to get paid big in America, live there, and get more fans
yea, my point was more him playing in NA, rather than him playing with optic core
NG1nS [#53]holy shit thank god we have the 1 import rule or NA would've been EMEA simulator
ardiis is a walking W, chose the bag
acels1 [#51]thats dirt cheap wtf, considering m0nesy was 600k
bro monesy is a generational talent and will become a brand name in the future like how kennyS(in terms of clout) was to many players in his era. its purely a business decision, while FPX's was a competitive one.
ishh [#58]+1 its pretty much what's keeping SEN afloat to this day lmao he adds so much clout
lil bro is here if tenz left
idkmate99 [#56]Going -28 on 2 maps ain't worth being a good igl. Diamond player big brain < Radiant small brain
Man is comparing ranked with pro play
juugobr_ [#13]????
won challengers 1
won istanbul
2nd place at challengers 2
4th place at championstell me ur top 10 igls please
i can tell u that my aim is better than his
ishh [#61]bro monesy is a generational talent and will become a brand name in the future like how kennyS(in terms of clout) was to many players in his era. its purely a business decision, while FPX's was a competitive one.
m0nesy isnt as good as u think, if not they would still be in the major
acels1 [#66]m0nesy isnt as good as u think, if not they would still be in the major
i mentioned generational talent, not a superstar like how zywoo did back in his first season. a t1 material, in summary.
ishh [#67]i mentioned generational talent, not a superstar like how zywoo did back in his first season. a t1 material, in summary.
generational talent sounds better than superstar tho
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