your opinion?
https://www.vlr.gg/142416/objective-top-10
this list is accurate if its based of tournament placements
ragegrexo [#11]https://www.vlr.gg/142416/objective-top-10
this list is accurate if its based of tournament placements
the team that won champs and placed 2nd at reykjavik 4th? that list is accurately wrong
arecyc [#15]take optic to 5th and its a decent list
optic won a masters, top 3 in the other and top 2 in champions. they deserve at least top 2. loud x optic is debatable imo
archetype [#5]
- OpTic/LOUD
- FPX/LOUD
- DRX/FPX
- FPX/PRX
- FNC
all depends in how u weigh the finishes
best team rn is obviously LOUD
in terms of consistency OpTic has to be the best. Even in Envy, they got amazing results in almost every international tournament, excluding of course Champions 2021. But on performance rn LOUD is just unbelievably good
archetype [#5]
- OpTic/LOUD
- FPX/LOUD
- DRX/FPX
- FPX/PRX
- FNC
all depends in how u weigh the finishes
best team rn is obviously LOUD
only correct list
TopperMan [#23]optic won a masters, top 3 in the other and top 2 in champions. they deserve at least top 2. loud x optic is debatable imo
their runs were awful and they beat no good teams,they are top 6 at best
notDREAM3R [#21]they just lost 1-3
If we’re talking about all of 2022 it’s definitely optic regardless of the result against Loud today
TopperMan [#23]optic won a masters, top 3 in the other and top 2 in champions. they deserve at least top 2. loud x optic is debatable imo
Dont even try to argue with such a delusional
notDREAM3R [#21]they just lost 1-3
But they brought 2 maps to OT and pushed the shit out of LOUD to win
arecyc [#28]their runs were awful and they beat no good teams,they are top 6 at best
They beat Loud to win masters. Same team that won today. As per your words Louds champ run is fluke?
KingHeadasz [#34]???
lost to guild xerxia prx loud,all shit teams ,you still think they are the best?
arecyc [#43]lost to guild xerxia prx loud,all shit teams ,you still think they are the best?
in terms of consistency? Absolutely.
but just because optic lost a few times doesnt mean they arent a top 3 team.
arecyc [#28]their runs were awful and they beat no good teams,they are top 6 at best
the disrespect here is horrendous
KingHeadasz [#46]in terms of consistency? Absolutely.
but just because optic lost a few times doesnt mean they arent a top 3 team.
yes it does,they lost to shit teams therefore they are shit,simple maths
archetype [#5]
- OpTic/LOUD
- FPX/LOUD
- DRX/FPX
- FPX/PRX
- FNC
all depends in how u weigh the finishes
best team rn is obviously LOUD
Optic is like a for sure 1st, 1st 2nd and 3rd placements while loud got 1st and 2nd plus last
arecyc [#48]yes it does,they lost to shit teams therefore they are shit,simple maths
so loud is shit because they lost to optic in the past ?
JuanTishh [#24]in terms of consistency OpTic has to be the best. Even in Envy, they got amazing results in almost every international tournament, excluding of course Champions 2021. But on performance rn LOUD is just unbelievably good
They only played one international tournament apart from Champs in 2021 wdym 💀
LocoMonteiro [#19]the team that won champs and placed 2nd at reykjavik 4th? that list is accurately wrong
its literally taking the placement of each team at every event
arecyc [#28]their runs were awful and they beat no good teams,they are top 6 at best
loud didn't beat any good teams except optic lmaooo
Zoxlr [#57]loud didn't beat any good teams except optic lmaooo
yes LOUD is shit,which is why it's embarssing for NA to lose to them and why i laugh at you
taejuny [#55]its literally taking the placement of each team at every event
bro just use your brain a second please...... this method is flawed in the way that it gives a champs win+12th place the same points as a 6th place+7th place when in reality one scenario is much more prestigious than the other
6vine [#54]They only played one international tournament apart from Champs in 2021 wdym 💀
I was referring to their results in general, not just 2021. But they still played two international LAN events, only missing Reykjavik. Besides, they finished 2nd at Masters Berlin
LocoMonteiro [#61]bro just use your brain a second please...... this method is flawed in the way that it gives a champs win+12th place the same points as a 6th place+7th place when in reality one scenario is much more prestigious than the other
Which is why they put a note in the post saying that. Literally OP says they just valued both events equally to make it easier to quantify.