It was m3 berlin . Havent seen a single soul call it a fluke because its true.
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The only tournament no one called a fluke
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SigmaMale [#2]No one calls it a fluke cause NA fans aren't sore losers
Is that why ppl call acend win a fluke?
h9zard [#5]SEN Iceland too 9-0 cant be fluke
those early tournaments there were always a clear better team. these tournaments i got no clue
wizardbot [#8]Is that why ppl call acend win a fluke?
no. thats cause they became tier 2 a month after their Champs win.
archetype [#6]best team won. convincingly.
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Gambit showed really great performances and reached 2nd in Champions with convincingly performances as well, but after the Ukraine-Russia conflict, they needed to drop from Gambit, and this probably hit them the most, cuz the org support means a lot in top tier games/preparation
babysasuke [#11]Gamb0t
Trophies: 1
Players on roster: 0Kekw
Laze
Trophies : 0
Players : trash
Region : trash
wizardbot [#8]Is that why ppl call acend win a fluke?
If the Acend win was a fluke, it was a fluke against Gambit. Not NA, not anyone else... Gambit were just amazing in that era
Quagmire [#13]Laze
Trophies : 0
Players : trash
Region : trash
And they still have their roster and more earnings than gamb0t
Crazy isn’t it
h9zard [#16]nope they made finals the next LAN
Yeah but next LAN was 2 months after, Acend victory was the last tournament of the year, they even made changes after so not even same roster
WOWMAN [#15]If the Acend win was a fluke, it was a fluke against Gambit. Not NA, not anyone else... Gambit were just amazing in that era
Nah acend fluked against vivo keyd
Vivo would've won if acend didn't have the 7 round advan
babysasuke [#19]And they still have their roster and more earnings than gamb0t
Crazy isn’t it
Gambit earned a lot in val while competing in eu and also when they won masters and place #2 in champs but cant say the same about laze. Laze has a roster but still can't win in the easiest American region lmao
Mortadelo [#17]Yeah but next LAN was 2 months after, Acend victory was the last tournament of the year, they even made changes after so not even same roster
M3C lost their org, but were still 1-2 maps away from qualifying for masters 2, lcq, and masters 1
Psion [#21]M3C lost their org, but were still 1-2 maps away from qualifying for masters 2, lcq, and masters 1
And do those two maps away make Acend world championship a fluke?
Mortadelo [#22]And do those two maps away make Acend world championship a fluke?
Acend was more of a fluke because all 5 players of the team turned up at that event. Before champions, nearly every player except cNed, had consistency issues.
Also after that event every player on the Acend roster plays significantly worse than they did at that event. Not a single player, including cNed has had a peak like their performance at Champions 2021.
Raevus [#24]Acend was more of a fluke because all 5 players of the team turned up at that event. Before champions, nearly every player except cNed, had consistency issues.
Also after that event every player on the Acend roster plays significantly worse than they did at that event. Not a single player, including cNed has had a peak like their performance at Champions 2021.
After the event the roster was rubuilded so we can't really know tho
sheahhhh [#19]Nah acend fluked against vivo keyd
Vivo would've won if acend didn't have the 7 round advan
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Gomes255 [#27]Camera be like 👁
U do know they replayed that game but putting the 7 map up makes no sense
Mortadelo [#26]After the event the roster was rubuilded so we can't really know tho
It was even before.
Before champions, only cNed was consistent on the team.
After, every single player who was on the winning roster, was statistically worse than during champions.
Also I think people call them a fluke run, as they were never considered to be a contender to win the vent. Their Berlin run was iffy. They didn't beat a single team they didn't play before, which is why Champs was a surprise. They looked like a completely different team in champs, with every player going insane.
Raevus [#29]It was even before.
Before champions, only cNed was consistent on the team.
After, every single player who was on the winning roster, was statistically worse than during champions.Also I think people call them a fluke run, as they were never considered to be a contender to win the vent. Their Berlin run was iffy. They didn't beat a single team they didn't play before, which is why Champs was a surprise. They looked like a completely different team in champs, with every player going insane.
But they didn’t have any previous changes or anything, the roster had been together for a good while, is not like they had a honeymoon period or something, idk I think they deserved it, if we call having a good tournament a fluke then Ig yeah
sheahhhh [#28]U do know they replayed that game but putting the 7 map up makes no sense
true it should've been an insta dq
babysasuke [#19]And they still have their roster and more earnings than gamb0t
Crazy isn’t it
i mean in val gambit def have more earnings...
Mortadelo [#26]After the event the roster was rubuilded so we can't really know tho
Nope, the roster was rebuilt only after Stage 1 of challengers concluded and they got grouped in Stage 1.
They played with the same 5 that won Champs for the entirety of the group stage excepting the game against BBL.
Blazieboy [#33]Nope, the roster was rebuilt only after Stage 1 of challengers concluded and they got grouped in Stage 1.
They played with the same 5 that won Champs for the entirety of the group stage excepting the game against BBL.
But you will agree with me that is not the same from one masters to another than to world to next years masters?
sheahhhh [#28]U do know they replayed that game but putting the 7 map up makes no sense
true, they should give the map to acend. Just like x10
Mortadelo [#34]But you will agree with me that is not the same from one masters to another than to world to next years masters?
Yes, I would agree with that. Same things happened with Sentinels too. From being the arguable best team in NA in 2021 to not even top 10 hurts as a Sentinels fan.
Mortadelo [#22]And do those two maps away make Acend world championship a fluke?
Acend could be considered a fluke while GMB can’t
Mortadelo [#30]But they didn’t have any previous changes or anything, the roster had been together for a good while, is not like they had a honeymoon period or something, idk I think they deserved it, if we call having a good tournament a fluke then Ig yeah
They deserved the win 100%. they played out their mind the whole event. All 5 players turned up.
What causes a fluke tends to be consistancy. Optic can't be considered a fluke team, as they're consistently performing well.
Pre champs, Acend weren't a consistent team. Only 1 player on the roster was consistent, and that was cNed.
Gambits run wasn't considered a fluke, as they were considered one of the best teams in eu, being eliminated by fnatic before masters 2 2021, whom which went to the finals. After that event Gambit just stayed at the top of eu for the rest of the year.
Acend just had worldstar talent with cNed, but the others having their inconsistency issues, leading to an inconsistent team.
Raevus [#40]They deserved the win 100%. they played out their mind the whole event. All 5 players turned up.
What causes a fluke tends to be consistancy. Optic can't be considered a fluke team, as they're consistently performing well.
Pre champs, Acend weren't a consistent team. Only 1 player on the roster was consistent, and that was cNed.Gambits run wasn't considered a fluke, as they were considered one of the best teams in eu, being eliminated by fnatic before masters 2 2021, whom which went to the finals. After that event Gambit just stayed at the top of eu for the rest of the year.
Acend just had worldstar talent with cNed, but the others having their inconsistency issues, leading to an inconsistent team.
Fair enough, but then a fluke is not necessarily bad, it can be deserved
Mortadelo [#41]Fair enough, but then a fluke is not necessarily bad, it can be deserved
Flukes aren't bad at all. idk why people have this negative feeling regarding a fluke. I guess it's because they cant hold that form, so people have a negative view on it. It doesn't mean the team didn't deserve to win, it's just the chance we'll see them perform that well again is ulikely.
Acend run at champs was a fluke because it wasn't ordinary for them to perform that well. They 100% deserved the win, as they all played insane.
Leicester had a fluke run at the premier league, and won. doesn't mean they didn't deserve it, just means that the expectations of that happening were really low.
sheahhhh [#28]U do know they replayed that game but putting the 7 map up makes no sense
yeah they were supposed give map to acend but they didnt
sheahhhh [#39]Lul cause eu knew they couldn't beat vk
yeah bro so based, plus my brother is a fortune teller and santa claus so he told me
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