What regions makes the best players

A val roster needs to follow a line-up and the line up usally looks like this

Duelist
Flex
Smoke
Initiator
Sentinel

This is usally the core line-up for any team so what regions make the best players for each role

Duelist- SA in my opinion make the best Duelists even when they are badly losing they are still able to have huge impact on the team and sparks the rest of the team to come back they have incredible aim and can entry onto any site and are guaranteed to get a pick on the enemy team such as LLL Aspas, KRU KeznitdeuS, LEV kiNgg and many others

Flex- APAC in my opinion create the best Flex players one we can use for a example is PRX Jinggg in my opinion he is one of the best Flex players I have seen ever touch this game apart from SEN SicK but also many other APAC teams such as BOOM and XERXIA even including ORDER have amazing Flex players like BME Famouz, XIA Sushiboys, ORD disk0 and many others and prove that APAC make the best Flex players

Smoke- NA in my opinion create the best Smoke players time and time again they have proven their massive fragging potential and shown how adaptable they are to any situation and their ability to win nearly any gun fights they get into for example OPTC Marved, 100T Bang, XSET AYRIN and many others

Initiator- East Asia in my opinion create the best Initiator players for example DRX Stax, ZETA Crow, NTH JoxJo, EDG nobody and many others have proven themselves many times on the international stage and proven they are the best Initiator players

Sentinel- EMEA in my opinion create the best Sentinel players for example FPX Suygetsu, TL Jamppi, M3C Chronicle and many others i understand Sentinels have fallen out of meta but when they are used there power is always shown and EMEA best shows it with their players

NA for all 5

Stopper reading at Duelist South Asia 🤣

No way you put Ayrin in the same sentence with Marved and bang

Nollihd [#3]

Stopper reading at Duelist South Asia 🤣

South America which includes brazil

unknown_trash [#5]

South America which includes brazil

Oh my bad
Isnt that region known as Latam + Brazil in valorant

Best duelists are from APAC easily

Nollihd [#6]

Oh my bad
Isnt that region known as Latam + Brazil in valorant

RIOT wanted to have Brazil as a separate region. So they did not include Brazil in LATAM altho Brazil is LATAM .
Same with APAC with countries like KR and JP got separate regions in VCT

JiangLi [#7]

Best duelists are from APAC easily

I mean there good but i feel SA has better duelists while APAC has better Flexs but each to their own

NA smokes ? literally only Marved lol

Duelist - Turkey

Obelisk [#9]

I mean there good but i feel SA has better duelists while APAC has better Flexs but each to their own

I'm not sure APAC has some of the most agressive duelists just because of their playstyle and insane aim

East Asia has nobody too

Gutssz [#11]

Duelist - Turkey

Usually those duelists would be a one man team like QutionerX and russz to BBL lol

Gutssz [#11]

Duelist - Turkey

We have

cNed
Izzy
Qutioner
Masic
qw1
Deepmans
lauress
Russz
Alfajer
sociablee

SilentNight [#13]

East Asia has nobody too

the hell you mean Stax, Crow literally amazing Initiator players

Gutssz [#15]

We have

cNed
Izzy
Qutioner
Masic
qw1
Deepmans
lauress
Russz
Alfajer
sociablee

But not everyone is a good duelist in that list
Just naming duelist players ≠ good duelists

Gutssz [#15]

We have

cNed
Izzy
Qutioner
Masic
qw1
Deepmans
lauress
Russz
Alfajer
sociablee

they are apart of EMEA and in my opinion EMEA only creates the best Sentinel players

JiangLi [#17]

But not everyone is a good duelist in that list
Just naming duelist players ≠ good duelists

All of the names I wrote above are good duelists

Gutssz [#19]

All of the names I wrote above are good duelists

LMAO ok keep coping

Obelisk [#16]

the hell you mean Stax, Crow literally amazing Initiator players

nobody is a player on edg

Obelisk [#16]

the hell you mean Stax, Crow literally amazing Initiator players

These guys don't have amazing aim, unlike nobody.

randomperson [#21]

nobody is a player on edg

yea thats mans diffierent but i wanted to see him in champions before i make my conclusion

Gutssz [#15]

We have

cNed
Izzy
Qutioner
Masic
qw1
Deepmans
lauress
Russz
Alfajer
sociablee

Izzy too inconsistent imo

sentinel would be NA. they have many good chamber (yes they are considered as sentinel) like yay, cryo, dicey, seven, bdog and even their tier 2 chamber looks solid like koala, oxy and neon.

edit: i also think EMEA have the best intitiator as they have shao, leo, chronicle etc.

JiangLi [#20]

LMAO ok keep coping

xD

JiangLi [#12]

I'm not sure APAC has some of the most agressive duelists just because of their playstyle and insane aim

yea they have good duelists but mainly its the Flexs pulling most of APACs weight Flexs from APAC are monsters

JiangLi [#20]

LMAO ok keep coping

nah he's right, they are good duelist. probably not on the same level with f0rsaken but they are still good.

deadSQUAD [#28]

nah he's right, they are good duelist. probably not on the same level with f0rsaken but they are still good.

forsaken > cned but they are in the same level imo

deadSQUAD [#25]

sentinel would be NA. they have many good chamber (yes they are considered as sentinel) like yay, cryo, dicey, seven, bdog and even their tier 2 chamber looks solid like koala, oxy and neon.

edit: i also think EMEA have the best intitiator as they have shao, leo, chronicle etc.

idk they only know how to use chamber tho and NA isnt really outstanding on any other role apart from Smoke

RickyIndian [#2]

NA for all 5

not really NA is good but i feel like they fall short in every role apart from Smoke

Obelisk [#30]

idk they only know how to use chamber tho and NA isnt really outstanding on any other role apart from Smoke

yes but chamber is still a sentinel and they have a lot good chamber players. NA smoke? their smoke is pretty average tho (except marved).

VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#10]

NA smokes ? literally only Marved lol

Vanity? Bang?

deadSQUAD [#32]

yes but chamber is still a sentinel and they have a lot good chamber players. NA smoke? their smoke is pretty average tho (except marved).

NA Smokes fragging power is on another level they mainly win their fights 80% of the time and in my opinion there chambers are not as good as other regions the only chamber in NA that is amazing and barely misses is FaZe Dicey

Liem [#33]

Vanity? Bang?

Bang has amazing fragging power and adaptability but on the other hand Vanity is good but i dont think he has the same fragging potential hes just smarter than most of NA

dexter000111 [#4]

No way you put Ayrin in the same sentence with Marved and bang

AYRIN is a good player and he gets the job done and clutches when he needs to he might not be a fragger like Marved and Bang but he has the smarts to make good outplays

RickyIndian [#2]

NA for all 5

Cap Na only produces content

Obelisk [#36]

AYRIN is a good player and he gets the job done and clutches when he needs to he might not be a fragger like Marved and Bang but he has the smarts to make good outplays

Never said he isn't good
Just said he isn't in the same bag as bang and Marved

Obelisk [#35]

Bang has amazing fragging power and adaptability but on the other hand Vanity is good but i dont think he has the same fragging potential hes just smarter than most of NA

hes been fragging like crazy recently

Duelist - APAC - forsaken , monyet , patiphan , jingg on reyna etc
SMOKES - EAST ASIA - mako , sugerzero etc
FLEX - CIS
IGL'S - CIS- ange1 , redgar etc
INITIATORS - SA - saadhak , sacy
TEAM PLAY - EU

deadSQUAD [#25]

sentinel would be NA. they have many good chamber (yes they are considered as sentinel) like yay, cryo, dicey, seven, bdog and even their tier 2 chamber looks solid like koala, oxy and neon.

edit: i also think EMEA have the best intitiator as they have shao, leo, chronicle etc.

have you seen any other region's chamber? , forsaken literally diffed yay on haven

why would duelist be SA over NA? TenZ, yay, leaf, cryo, asuna, victor, zellsis, mada, bdog, xeppaa, sayaplayer, babybay, and many others are all insane duelist players even if some transitioned to the OP role. there's way more duelist/fragging talent in NA than SA lol

EMEA is best for sentinels, initiators and flex in my opinion.
Leo, Shao, Enzo, Cloud, Sheydos/Chronicle etc. NA is strong for initiators as well. EA falls behind both.
and for flex EMEA has always had the most flexible players and many of them. APAC only having Jingg doesn't prove that they are best at that.

Realistically you can't name single other region for any of these other than EMEA or NA if you look at quality and quantity.

Duelist - NA because they rely on duelist more than EMEA
Smokes - NA because many top EMEA smokers are IGLs
Initiators - EMEA, but NA has good individuals as well
Flex - EMEA
Sentinel - EMEA

dexter000111 [#38]

Never said he isn't good
Just said he isn't in the same bag as bang and Marved

toxic dexterr as always

NG1nS [#44]

toxic dexterr as always

Saying one player is better than another = toxic
👍🏻

Did u just say that Jinggg is a flex player? LMFAO

siphonval [#46]

Did u just say that Jinggg is a flex player? LMFAO

Jinggg is a flex player

Obelisk [#31]

not really NA is good but i feel like they fall short in every role apart from Smoke

NA duelists are great too.

yay/victor, zekken/cryo, asuna, tenz, babybay, dicey, sayaplayer, bdog, jawgemo, and leaf are all insane

Asia has great smokes too, Mako Mindfreak sugarzero sScary

dexter000111 [#45]

Saying one player is better than another = toxic
👍🏻

dimasick owns bang

Obelisk [#47]

Jinggg is a flex player

hes not his agent pool is small and mostly consists of raze , reyna and sage and neon(played only once) . But its mostly just raze and sage which he plays . A flex player has a larger agent pool . Forsaken would maybe qualify for a flex but he still a duelist .

Obelisk [#34]

NA Smokes fragging power is on another level they mainly win their fights 80% of the time and in my opinion there chambers are not as good as other regions the only chamber in NA that is amazing and barely misses is FaZe Dicey

since you were saying other region's chamber is better , can you name 5 good chamber from any region that you consider have better chamber than NA?
yeah mb compared to other region, their smokes are better i terms of firepower.

hazard25 [#41]

have you seen any other region's chamber? , forsaken literally diffed yay on haven

which region? be specific. yes and then yay diffed him on bind.

dexter000111 [#45]

Saying one player is better than another = toxic
👍🏻

shit talking a player = isn't toxic 🤔

NG1nS [#54]

shit talking a player = isn't toxic 🤔

All I said was that Ayrin isn't on the same level as bang and Marved
Show me where I talked shit about Ayrin

Delusional_SA_fan [#50]

dimasick owns bang

L1nk owns dimasick tho. Dimasick did literally nothing any tier 1-2 controller can't do. And he was being carried by Scream who was in godly form during LCQ. Liquid would have won with L1nk too if Scream played like that

dexter000111 [#55]

All I said was that Ayrin isn't on the same level as bang and Marved
Show me where I talked shit about Ayrin

dexterr i'm just joking chill, AYRIN is definitely not on the same level
i actually think he should get replaced on XSET and get zander i've commented this before

JiangLi [#51]

hes not his agent pool is small and mostly consists of raze , reyna and sage and neon(played only once) . But its mostly just raze and sage which he plays . A flex player has a larger agent pool . Forsaken would maybe qualify for a flex but he still a duelist .

anyone that plays duelist and plays sentinel is automatically a flex

NG1nS [#57]

dexterr i'm just joking chill, AYRIN is definitely not on the same level
i actually think he should get replaced on XSET and get zander i've commented this before

Ah shit I thought you were actually mad at me :/
But it's true. Zekken and Cryo are being absolutely wasted having to carry Ayrin and BcJ. Both of them are good enough for a top 3 team. Hope they get into a good team after Franchising

man sneaked ayrin successfully

CristanchOx [#60]

man sneaked ayrin successfully

i mean AYRIN is a good player

Obelisk [#36]

AYRIN is a good player and he gets the job done and clutches when he needs to he might not be a fragger like Marved and Bang but he has the smarts to make good outplays

Dex is obviously correct, though: Ayrin and Marved cannot be included in the same impact group when discussing best players of the region (such as the smoker group, etc.). I don't wish to offend either Ayrin or you; I'm merely stating a critical opinion. Players like Marved deserve respect and recognition simply because they have demonstrated that they are quite exceptional/consistent in their roles for a long time. I'm surprised you didn't bring up any other players, like Supamen... when NA Smokes cluster is taken into consideration, they should be mentioned. Also, lots of the finest players are absent from the conversation in other regions (i.e. such as EMEA). Players like nAts are not looked at at all. But I'll leave that at it as the task is quite vast and not the easy one.

Recent Marved/Ayrin performances:

• https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
• https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers

Obelisk [#18]

they are apart of EMEA and in my opinion EMEA only creates the best Sentinel players

Best sova/fade/skye players itw are only from eu tho, cloud/shao/chronicle/leo

For sure NA makes the best content creators

hazard25 [#40]

Duelist - APAC - forsaken , monyet , patiphan , jingg on reyna etc
SMOKES - EAST ASIA - mako , sugerzero etc
FLEX - CIS
IGL'S - CIS- ange1 , redgar etc
INITIATORS - SA - saadhak , sacy
TEAM PLAY - EU

NA - lucky rats (except yay and marved are genuinely good players)

ANGE1 and Redgar are both CIS...

jinggg is not a flex
he's only good at duelist & sage

Rexx [#64]

For sure NA makes the best content creators

shroud filled the clout role

deadSQUAD [#52]

since you were saying other region's chamber is better , can you name 5 good chamber from any region that you consider have better chamber than NA?
yeah mb compared to other region, their smokes are better i terms of firepower.

ardiis, derke, jamppi, f0rsaken, tacolila >>>> all the names you've mentioned except yay.
Even non chamber mains like nats and d4v41 are better than most of those names 💀

archetype [#65]

ANGE1 and Redgar are both CIS...

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