Here's the top 20 ranking after Champions last year. Who do you think has fallen off this list and which players do you think deserve to be in this year's top 20?
According to 65,173 responses and the top 20 was:
Kindler [#2]Where did this poll happen?
https://www.vlr.gg/59886/2021-player-ranking-survey
I've closed off the poll before 2022 started so the results won't change. I still have the complete results though which includes 180 players.
mEXsACHINE [#6]https://www.vlr.gg/59886/2021-player-ranking-survey
I've closed off the poll before 2022 started so the results won't change. I still have the complete results though which includes 180 players.
hiko what place?
PrTsty [#4]chronicle only on 6 is SAD
and d3ffo over sheydos and redgard?????
community brainded?
I would personally rank Chronicle in the Top 5.
Sheydos and Redgar were ranked 22 and 23 respectively in the polls. Last Champions though, d3ffo did have a higher K/D than Sheydos and Redgar but I personally would still rank Sheydos higher.
mEXsACHINE [#8]I would personally rank Chronicle in the Top 5.
Sheydos and Redgar were ranked 22 and 23 respectively in the polls. Last Champions though, d3ffo did have a higher K/D than Sheydos and Redgar but I personally would still rank Sheydos higher.
imo D3ffo was by far the weakest link on gambit, he wasnt bad but he wastn great on his role, not his fault more the metas one, his neon was insane tho
PrTsty [#12]imo D3ffo was by far the weakest link on gambit, he wasnt bad but he wastn great on his role, not his fault more the metas one, his neon was insane tho
what are you talking about d3ffo was 100% better than sheydos and redgar last year
redgar was mostly bottom frag and sheydos always had huge potential but was very inconsistent
PrTsty [#12]imo D3ffo was by far the weakest link on gambit, he wasnt bad but he wastn great on his role, not his fault more the metas one, his neon was insane tho
I agree. He wasn't a bad player, but as a Jett player, a lot more was expected from him.
NG1nS [#15]what are you talking about d3ffo was 100% better than sheydos and redgar last year
redgar was mostly bottom frag and sheydos always had huge potential but was very inconsistent
he wasnt, just compare d3ffo with other jetts, he was miles ahead, on the other side redgar and sheydos were way better in their roles compared to other players
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and obviously redgars igling worked
PrTsty [#18]he wasnt, just compare d3ffo with other jetts, he was miles ahead, on the other side redgar and sheydos were way better in their roles compared to other players
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and obviously redgars igling worked
no i think with the way gambit played 2021 d3ffo did his job and more
if u count igling maybe i would rank redgar above himbut believe me ur chosing sheydos bcz of recency bias as he is destroying in 2022 but in 2021 he was very inconsistent he wasn't a good skye at all, so frag and role wise in 2021 sheydos wasn't above d3ffo
i just checked stats for masters berlin and champions and as i said d3ffo was clearly better
and sheydos did in fact underperform
hazard25 [#25]only me or dont see any asian player , be it from SEA or korea ?
f0rsaken
stax
bunny (raze)
lakia
patiphanall these 5 are top contenders
Hopefully that changes this year though when I try to make another survey after Champions.
f0rsakeN, Jinggg, Mako, stax are top 20 for sure.
mindfreak, SugarZ3r0, Meteor have top 20 potential
Zmjjkk might also even crack the top 20 depending on how he plays in Champions
Kindler [#5]Shahzam ethan link starxo leaf, mightve fallen off
Edit: deffo as well, cned too
forgot tenz
Kindler [#29]True, i forgot but i think he still stays in top 20 for sure.
hahahaha lmfaoooo the TENZ cult people are funny AF
trembolonaRage [#19]You mean 2021?
Why not just use an objective criteria instead of just personal opnion (subjective)?
u crazy ? mwzera didn't do shit to qualify for any event mf got a free ticket and he blew it both international events
of course mwzera isn't counted
Kindler [#29]True, i forgot but i think he still stays in top 20 for sure.
yeah there's no way dude xD
Vct_fan [#10]Last year Nats - no1 . Not even close
This year suygetsu no 1 . Not even close
ur literally trolling, Shao had so much more impact than anyone else in that tourney. Suygetsu is good for like 2-3 rounds a map and sometimes doesnt show up at all.
NG1nS [#20]no i think with the way gambit played 2021 d3ffo did his job and more
if u count igling maybe i would rank redgar above himbut believe me ur chosing sheydos bcz of recency bias as he is destroying in 2022 but in 2021 he was very inconsistent he wasn't a good skye at all, so frag and role wise in 2021 sheydos wasn't above d3ffoi just checked stats for masters berlin and champions and as i said d3ffo was clearly better
and sheydos did in fact underperform
Maybe I had sheydos better in my head than he actually was. But I would definetly put redgar over d3ffo
NG1nS [#23]how is nats top 20 when he didn't get to a single lan ? like bruh pls man there's definitely other players at top 20 this year
you dont have to get to a lan to be top 20. Sick didnt get to a lan but id definitely still put him up there (on the flex role)
NG1nS [#31]hahahaha lmfaoooo the TENZ cult people are funny AF
You can laugh about my opinion, but i think tenz will be an upgrade for many top teams.
JustHunter [#36]you dont have to get to a lan to be top 20. Sick didnt get to a lan but id definitely still put him up there (on the flex role)
nice logic, let's not hold any events at all then since we don't really need them to rank the top players
nicuuu
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap3 [#3]when Leaf used to be a good ass player
He is still really good, he just had a bad lcq. He played really good and even during lcq, his rating was high and he put up good numbers
widepeepofrosty [#44]sick at 19? did he fall off during champions or what? he did really fucking good for 2021 season as far as i can remember. top 10 candidate for sure
SEN as a whole downfalled
NG1nS [#32]u crazy ? mwzera didn't do shit to qualify for any event mf got a free ticket and he blew it both international events
of course mwzera isn't counted
@trembolonaRage
hazard25 [#25]only me or dont see any asian player , be it from SEA or korea ?
f0rsaken
stax
bunny (raze)
lakia
patiphanall these 5 are top contenders
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Kindler [#29]True, i forgot but i think he still stays in top 20 for sure.
I believe there are more deserving players that went to international events. Like I think we will see the top 20 come from the pool of players at champs this year.
this year, players by region that could be top 20
NA: Yay, Cryo, Marved, Asuna and derrek (5)
BR and latam: Aspas,Less,saadhak,pancada,Sacy, Keznit, Tacolilla, Mazino (8)
EMEA: Shao, suygetsu, Ardiis, Sayf, Leo, Nats, Sheydos, Alfajer, Derke, Scream, Nivera , Jamppi, Nukkye (13)
Apac: Mindfreak, F0rsaken, Jingg, d4v4i, sscary, Buzz, stax, mako, Sugarz3ro and maybe 1-2 chinese (10-12)
Between this 30ish players should be the top 20 of 2022
ItsMeDio [#22]Players that still in TOP 20 this year:
GMB nAts
TL ScreaM
NV yay
FNC Derke
TL Jamppi
TL Nivera
TL L1NK
- KRU keznit
- 100T Asuna
Not L1NK tho, sadly he has underperformed this entire year
ChrisPewPew [#53]this year, players by region that could be top 20
NA: Yay, Cryo, Marved, Asuna and derrek (5)
BR and latam: Aspas,Less,saadhak,pancada,Sacy, Keznit, Tacolilla, Mazino (8)
EMEA: Shao, suygetsu, Ardiis, Sayf, Leo, Nats, Sheydos, Alfajer, Derke, Scream, Nivera , Jamppi, Nukkye (13)
Apac: Mindfreak, F0rsaken, Jingg, d4v4i, sscary, Buzz, stax, mako, Sugarz3ro and maybe 1-2 chinese (10-12)Between this 30ish players should be the top 20 of 2022
why nats , sheydos ? they have not qualified for vct master/champions in whole 2022 ! if we see by non wualified teams there can be more players in the list imo
ChrisPewPew [#53]this year, players by region that could be top 20
NA: Yay, Cryo, Marved, Asuna and derrek (5)
BR and latam: Aspas,Less,saadhak,pancada,Sacy, Keznit, Tacolilla, Mazino (8)
EMEA: Shao, suygetsu, Ardiis, Sayf, Leo, Nats, Sheydos, Alfajer, Derke, Scream, Nivera , Jamppi, Nukkye (13)
Apac: Mindfreak, F0rsaken, Jingg, d4v4i, sscary, Buzz, stax, mako, Sugarz3ro and maybe 1-2 chinese (10-12)Between this 30ish players should be the top 20 of 2022
I would put zekken over Cryo.
trembolonaRage [#19]You mean 2021?
Why not just use an objective criteria instead of just personal opnion (subjective)?
Heat makes more sense than Mw, this guy was a beast last year
mEXsACHINE [#6]https://www.vlr.gg/59886/2021-player-ranking-survey
I've closed off the poll before 2022 started so the results won't change. I still have the complete results though which includes 180 players.
are you doing one for 2022?
mEXsACHINE [#41]heat
This is sad, this guy literally got the best stats in masters and Champions berlin and people like ethan and sick are above
Aristia [#58]No Heat 💀
I guess they don’t put people who only get one series win at international lans
Aristia [#59]Heat makes more sense than Mw, this guy was a beast last year
heat ls 100% there but MW being there is a complete joke
Kindler [#37]You can laugh about my opinion, but i think tenz will be an upgrade for many top teams.
For sure, but there is a difference between that and being top 20. Top 20 is for example 4 rosters, anything else it’s outside of that
JustHunter [#36]you dont have to get to a lan to be top 20. Sick didnt get to a lan but id definitely still put him up there (on the flex role)
Name and flair, bro hasn’t played since march but yeah If he did he’d own everyone that’s what matters
Also, flex role isn’t real anymore, ever since the Jett nerf roles have been a lot more about how you position yourself on the map than how many agents you can play. People sucked up to sick cause he played over 3 agents back when everyone played only 2, now to be at a top level you have to play more than three agents so you can’t even call him special for it anymore
Kindler [#37]You can laugh about my opinion, but i think tenz will be an upgrade for many top teams.
How exactly? He still does a good Jett but nobody runs that anymore, can’t play raze or neon, his chamber is average at best, you don’t see him getting nearly the same impact as other chambers
And to make everything even worse, whenever he plays any other agent he always botfrags in ranked, imagine how bad he’d do on a professional level
symbols07 [#27]crashies is the most notable one, he def isnt a top 20 player with his current performance. and all of the players here who didnt make champs this year have all fell off (sen 100t etc), gambit players are the only one i could argue about who still deserve to be on this list
Crashies? he’s having his best year yet
JustHunter [#34]ur literally trolling, Shao had so much more impact than anyone else in that tourney. Suygetsu is good for like 2-3 rounds a map and sometimes doesnt show up at all.
now as you say it i kinda realise it. suygetsu is goated no doubt but shaos value is atleast the double.
jackb2016 [#66]Not in any order:
Nats
Scream
Yay
Derke
Keznit
Asuna
Jamppi (LCQ, wasn’t impressive rest of year however.)
Asuna def didnt fall off imo
MerkFreeks [#52]Fell off this list:
Cned, Tenz, Shaz, Starxo, Zeek, Link, Sick, Ethan, maybe LeafShould be here for this year
F0rsaken, Jingg, Suygetsu, Shao, Stax, Marvedpotentially Zmjjkk, Cryo, Ardiis, Mindfreak
Zekken > Cryo
CGX [#82]TL with 4/5 players in top 20. Nice!
i mean of course. This list had a lot of weight on Champions, LCQ, and Red Bull Home Ground, where the liquid players (individually) were on a different moment at a time. They only lost 1 match in 2021 with their roster, and that was to Acend.
jackb2016 [#68]I guess they don’t put people who only get one series win at international lans
Its sad, he dont win but still better then 80% in this list
Rabbiit [#84]Its sad, he dont win but still better then 80% in this list
yeah he was crazy in 2021, but honestly its hard to justify him getting Top 20 with only 1 series win
lorenzopajaroFC [#73]How exactly? He still does a good Jett but nobody runs that anymore, can’t play raze or neon, his chamber is average at best, you don’t see him getting nearly the same impact as other chambers
And to make everything even worse, whenever he plays any other agent he always botfrags in ranked, imagine how bad he’d do on a professional level
"His Chamber is average".
Man, he has only played 3 games on Chamber. Also, what does ranked have to do with this? Yes he's not top 20 this year because his team has not reached a single international event.
ItsMeDio [#22]Players that still in TOP 20 this year:
GMB nAts
TL ScreaM
NV yay
FNC Derke
TL Jamppi
TL Nivera
TL L1NK
- KRU keznit
- 100T Asuna
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lorenzopajaroFC [#74]Crashies? he’s having his best year yet
lmao, he severely underperformed( atleast not like top 20 player) in masters 2
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