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EU Franchising Tier List

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#1
m8te

NA lists are too boring

Teams to include - FPX, FNC, GLD, ACE, TL, G2, MAD, NAVI, EXL, OG, BBL, BIG, FUT, GIA, SMB, FF, TH, KOI, TQ, CASE, VIT, KCORP, ALL, MOUZ, FNST, TEN, BDS, ASRL, PSG, OBG, ROUGE, FQ, LDLC, SK, NIP, ENCE, VP, HEROIC, MSF, LDLC, FORZE, COL, SPIRIT, SSG, Etc...

Since I have no life I have ranked them all Below :)

S (99%) - FNC, TL, NAVI, BBL, VIT
A (likely) - FPX, KCORP, G2, ALL
B (ok chance) - MAD, BIG, TH, MOUZ, SMB, SPIRIT, EXL, OG, BDS, KOI
C (mb in an expansion) - GLD, ENCE ,HRC, FRZ, MSF, ASRL, FUT, FF, TQ, TEN, ROUGE
D (Wouldn't count on it) - LDLC, NIP, GIA, FNST, PSG, COL
F (little to no chance) - FQ, SK, VP, SSG

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alliance are not likely

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i think it would make more sense for FPX to go to another region rather than stay in EMEA but who knows

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Subreezy [#3]

i think it would make more sense for FPX to go to another region rather than stay in EMEA but who knows

agreed, competition too weak in EMEA

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m8te
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Subreezy [#3]

i think it would make more sense for FPX to go to another region rather than stay in EMEA but who knows

I think that they would move to china if they could but for now I think as an org there best chance is to guarantee a slot is in EU

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babysasuke [#4]

agreed, competition too weak in EMEA

god you're so boring

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Abydaby
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babysasuke [#4]

agreed, competition too weak in EMEA

ironic

#7
Mortadelo
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Nice initiative but list is a bit off imo

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bonkashi
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Subreezy [#3]

i think it would make more sense for FPX to go to another region rather than stay in EMEA but who knows

I mean since they just won an event staying in EMEA is definitely the safest bet, they have recognition and fans here

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G2 is 99%, prob guaranteed

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ldsaldlsa
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acend 100% F

#11
m8te
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EU_quiet [#9]

G2 is 99%, prob guaranteed

George Geddes made me doubt them

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m8te
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ldsaldlsa [#10]

acend 100% F

Yea I forgot to add them. I'd put them at a 85% chance

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m8te [#11]

George Geddes made me doubt them

Nah, they are 100% in, the doubt is if it will be in EU or NA

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m8te [#12]

Yea I forgot to add them. I'd put them at a 85% chance

No, lower the chance. Acend is a small org with no fanbase, and actually, that's not their real name, their name is Raise your Edge which is a gambling site, which Riot doesn't allow. I would say just because of that their chance is basically gone

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m8te [#12]

Yea I forgot to add them. I'd put them at a 85% chance

they have no chance i think, they sponcored by casino

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Hewcho
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ldsaldlsa [#15]

they have no chance i think, they sponcored by casino

casino πŸ’€

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Mortadelo [#14]

No, lower the chance. Acend is a small org with no fanbase, and actually, that's not their real name, their name is Raise your Edge which is a gambling site, which Riot doesn't allow. I would say just because of that their chance is basically gone

dude did u even searched raise your edge in google? πŸ’€

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m8te [#11]

George Geddes made me doubt them

He only talked about G2 from NA

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m8te
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Mortadelo [#14]

No, lower the chance. Acend is a small org with no fanbase, and actually, that's not their real name, their name is Raise your Edge which is a gambling site, which Riot doesn't allow. I would say just because of that their chance is basically gone

they have met every riot requirement + they don't have any affiliation to raise your edge on socials

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Hewcho [#16]

casino πŸ’€

https://www.raiseyouredge.com

Literally first thing it poped up

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Hewcho [#17]

dude did u even searched raise your edge in google? πŸ’€

No need to, I've heard Kolda explain it many times

#22
Mortadelo
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m8te [#19]

they have met every riot requirement + they don't have any affiliation to raise your edge on socials

The org still comes from where they come, the money comes from where it comes. Riot cares about this things

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Mortadelo [#20]

https://www.raiseyouredge.com

Literally first thing it poped up

yeah bro its gambling site https://prnt.sc/7dnPRtCHpTUO πŸ’€πŸ’€

#24
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Hewcho [#23]

yeah bro its gambling site https://prnt.sc/7dnPRtCHpTUO πŸ’€πŸ’€

Wdym bro, it’s literally what it is all is gambling related, why do you think they forced them to change their name

https://www.vlr.gg/team/2577/raise-your-edge

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There's no way this guy abbreviated Astralis like ASRL

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My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

0% for Guild and Acend?

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S: FNC, TL, G2, FPX, KCORP
A: NAVI, BBL, MAD, KOI
B: Heroic, Rogue, BIG, VIT, OGLU
C: Guild, BDS, Heretics, Giants
D: Acend

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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

BBL S tier aswell imo they pull the most viewership in the VCT tournament

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m8te [#11]

George Geddes made me doubt them

how? is g2 likely coz they might just get an NA slot? if not, then i think you have put g2 very wrong. g2 should be guaranteed a place just like fnc and tl

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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

perfect

#32
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This list is wrong just for the fact that riot prioritize fanbase overall and teams like ALL has 0 fanbase

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babysasuke [#4]

agreed, competition too weak in EMEA

There is no point of na lists anymore they wont win anything fluke region :D

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Olofboost
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Mortadelo [#27]

0% for Guild and Acend?

As someone said, Acend get their money from casino website, which is a thing that Riot hate the most (their tournaments are literally never sponsored by anything related to gambling)

Guild financials are shit, they've been spending and spending, getting nothing in return, they're not popular either

I've named 16 more deserving teams in S, A, B, when there's 10 slots, literally impossible for someone as shady as Acend and Guild to make it, out of all my list 6 won't be doing it anyway

#35
Olofboost
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BBL_Wtcn [#29]

BBL S tier aswell imo they pull the most viewership in the VCT tournament

They're not as developed as top-3, nor do they have rosters in any other S-Tier esport (LoL, Dota, CSGO, Rocket League, R6)

I think BBL will be included mostly for the sake of Turkish representative, I mean if they ignore Turkey while you make up 30% of EMEA playerbase...

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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

FPX should be in S because they already have a league team and heretics have purchased misfit gaming's spot in the LEC which improves their chances massively from what I heard Heroic are making it through the application stages for franchising so maybe a B

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Olofboost [#34]

As someone said, Acend get their money from casino website, which is a thing that Riot hate the most (their tournaments are literally never sponsored by anything related to gambling)

Guild financials are shit, they've been spending and spending, getting nothing in return, they're not popular either

I've named 16 more deserving teams in S, A, B, when there's 10 slots, literally impossible for someone as shady as Acend and Guild to make it, out of all my list 6 won't be doing it anyway

Yeah Ik what the situation is for both of them, but still, from there to a 0% idk. being a world champion has to count somehow, and Guild have their chance now. Idk, I still believe they won't get it but they do have a chance

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orqn [#28]

S: FNC, TL, G2, FPX, KCORP
A: NAVI, BBL, MAD, KOI
B: Heroic, Rogue, BIG, VIT, OGLU
C: Guild, BDS, Heretics, Giants
D: Acend

Why is Kcorp up there, and Heretics has a bigger chance than orgs like Heroic for example now that they are in LEC

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Olofboost
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Mortadelo [#37]

Yeah Ik what the situation is for both of them, but still, from there to a 0% idk. being a world champion has to count somehow, and Guild have their chance now. Idk, I still believe they won't get it but they do have a chance

I would consider them if there were 12 or 14 teams in the league

But 10... Like there's so much better options for these 10

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Marcock99 [#32]

This list is wrong just for the fact that riot prioritize fanbase overall and teams like ALL has 0 fanbase

They've learned from the LEC, they need viewers

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Olofboost [#39]

I would consider them if there were 12 or 14 teams in the league

But 10... Like there's so much better options for these 10

I agree there are definitely better orgs, I just don't know how much value current rosters can have to the decisions. ik the other stuff is more important, I just wanna know how much more important yk

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Olofboost [#35]

They're not as developed as top-3, nor do they have rosters in any other S-Tier esport (LoL, Dota, CSGO, Rocket League, R6)

I think BBL will be included mostly for the sake of Turkish representative, I mean if they ignore Turkey while you make up 30% of EMEA playerbase...

I was referring to the chance they make it but yes BBL is still a new org and doesn’t have teams in S tier esports like the ones you mentioned

#43
kbkdark
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NIP is not going to EU franchising... staying in BR to play NA, Central NA and South NA franchising

#44
thanatos11
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Guild has a higher chance than alliance

#45
m8te
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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

I think Navi has a really good chance

#46
m8te
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kbkdark [#43]

NIP is not going to EU franchising... staying in BR to play NA, Central NA and South NA franchising

It’s if they get denied from Americas region

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m8te [#46]

It’s if they get denied from Americas region

Really difficult... NiP is a HUGE org and there's a 99% chance of the requires to franchising be alright to get into it

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m8te [#45]

I think Navi has a really good chance

I doubt, their biggest facility is in the capital of war-torn country, where nobody will go for bootcamp right now, especially russians who are denied entry into Ukraine

They'd have to set up something spectacular outside of Ukraine in such small time gap before franchising hits

Also Riot is known for hating CIS, we might not even get a single slot, 8 EU + BBL + Falcons, or 9 EU + BBL

#49
m8te
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kbkdark [#47]

Really difficult... NiP is a HUGE org and there's a 99% chance of the requires to franchising be alright to get into it

I mean but so are immortals and loud

#50
m8te
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thanatos11 [#44]

Guild has a higher chance than alliance

They are a failing org, riot won’t add them unless they turn it around

#51
orqn
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Mortadelo [#38]

Why is Kcorp up there, and Heretics has a bigger chance than orgs like Heroic for example now that they are in LEC

I don’t see a world where Karmine Corp not get in but ur right about Heretics

#52
Zaba
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Olofboost [#26]

My list:

S - G2, Fnatic, Liquid
A - Vitality, Karmine, KOI, BBL
B - FPX, Navi, MAD, Heretics, Giants, BIG, OG, BDS, Falcons
C - Heroic, Rogue, Astralis, whatever big org which is not in Valorant yet, except it's from Russia
F - everyone else, won't be more than 10 teams anyway

W

#53
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orqn [#51]

I don’t see a world where Karmine Corp not get in but ur right about Heretics

Why, BBL for example is way more likely to get in IMO. Just as big as a fanbase and Riot has to include Tr. KOI, BBL, KCrop and Heretics all have a pretty similar situation imo

#54
SoraHeartly
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dude u say na tier list is boring and then start doing an eu tier list πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

#55
SUCK_IT
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U should have added another list
Z(no chance)-M3C

#56
nutab1e
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SoraHeartly [#54]

dude u say na tier list is boring and then start doing an eu tier list πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

monthly SoraHeartly post :D

#57
kbkdark
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m8te [#49]

I mean but so are immortals and loud

Riot said how many slots to each region?

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