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dont let vrl finals

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#1
no_noise_979

distract you from the fact some tier1 orgs keep bots like avova, mixwell, duno while there are monsters in tier 2 like wolfen, chiwawa, alive

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inkie
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b0twell 😹😹😹

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moatz
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bonecold, baddyg, doma too

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Dybala21
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This VRL is good tho ngl for the T2 scene as they will get noticed by franchised team for next year season

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inkie
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moatz [#3]

bonecold, baddyg, doma too

doma 😹😹😹

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Foxie is one of the only decent IGL that tier 1 teams can sign rn

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lmfao, they only look ''monsters'' againts tier 2 teams. Chiwawa is only decent player imo

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valulrantefanboy [#7]

lmfao, they only look ''monsters'' againts tier 2 teams. Chiwawa is only decent player imo

I bet you said the same thing about Alfajer, Suygetsu, Trexx, Monsteerr, when those were in tier2

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inkie [#5]

doma 😹😹😹

he was good at least when he was on fnatic. idk much abt his time on mad lions tbh

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Olofboost
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This, the only org in tier1 EMEA that is not afraid to take risks and pick unproven tier2 demons is Fnatic - you can see that it benefitted them a lot

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valulrantefanboy [#7]

lmfao, they only look ''monsters'' againts tier 2 teams. Chiwawa is only decent player imo

Sure, look at stats great idea.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/885/champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion/promotion

Lmk if you see anything special about Alfajer last split in the VRL finals

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Olofboost [#10]

This, the only org in tier1 EMEA that is not afraid to take risks and pick unproven tier2 demons is Fnatic - you can see that it benefitted them a lot

fnatic fans when their honeymoon period wears off in playoffs for the 1341276543th time in 2133: 💀

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u tryna make G2 poach sum?

#14
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moatz [#9]

he was good at least when he was on fnatic. idk much abt his time on mad lions tbh

fnatic is 100x times better without him

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Mortadelo [#11]

Sure, look at stats great idea.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/885/champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion/promotion

Lmk if you see anything special about Alfajer last split in the VRL finals

@trembolonaRage moment

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snoozna
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inkie [#14]

fnatic is 100x times better without him

trueee

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Avova is the best controller in EMEA, the problem is pipson who doesnt understand how to use him, literally once pipson joined G2 avova started playing bad

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Mortadelo [#11]

Sure, look at stats great idea.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/885/champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion/promotion

Lmk if you see anything special about Alfajer last split in the VRL finals

STATS

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/VK%20mwzera%234324/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches) proof here https://imgur.com/StiJmpg
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is RAZE. There is a BIG difference between a good duelist and a jett abuser
If he is a good duelist, he needs to be good with raze.

heat? not good with raze
aspas? not good with raze
xand? not good with raze
tenz? not good with raze
cned? not good with raze
scream? not good with raze
d3ffo? not good with raze
derke? not good with raze

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined VK he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even steel managed to get 20 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/29398/sentinels-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-gf/?game=46692&tab=overview)

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Mortadelo
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kbkdark [#15]

@trembolonaRage moment

The opposite, I’m saying stats don’t matter

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kbkdark
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Mortadelo [#19]

The opposite, I’m saying stats don’t matter

I got it my friend, it's just all about "STATS" triggers instantly memories about trembo

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Mortadelo [#6]

Foxie is one of the only decent IGL that tier 1 teams can sign rn

lmao foxie t1 ppl be saying anything nowadays

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buddyhoodie [#21]

lmao foxie t1 ppl be saying anything nowadays

Only cause he is IGL my friend, I bet you you can’t name 10 tier 1 IGLs for the 10 teams in franchising next year

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VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT
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AdS [#13]

u tryna make G2 poach sum?

Gold2 will just waste good players like always

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Mortadelo
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kbkdark [#20]

I got it my friend, it's just all about "STATS" triggers instantly memories about trembo

xD

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Rexx [#17]

Avova is the best controller in EMEA, the problem is pipson who doesnt understand how to use him, literally once pipson joined G2 avova started playing bad

G2 need proper coaching and IGL and most of the problems solved imo

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Mortadelo [#22]

Only cause he is IGL my friend, I bet you you can’t name 10 tier 1 IGLs for the 10 teams in franchising next year

You're actually right lol I was like "no way" and started writing a list and only got to like 7-8. Yeah you're right he could get signed.

Although he was dogshit in VRL spain with Queso so the guy isn't that consistent either

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AdS [#25]

G2 need proper coaching and IGL and most of the problems solved imo

Yup, and idc who goes to get that, as long as it’s not Nukkye or Hoody

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buddyhoodie [#26]

You're actually right lol I was like "no way" and started writing a list and only got to like 7-8. Yeah you're right he could get signed.

Although he was dogshit in VRL spain with Queso so the guy isn't that consistent either

I totally agree my friend, he is nothing crazy, there just aren’t any IGLs available, and as a G2 fan trust me, Ik what I’m talking about lol

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inkie [#14]

fnatic is 100x times better without him

he was and is a good player, he was removed coz of his poor work ethic. he is still very young and can easily rise up again

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Mortadelo [#22]

Only cause he is IGL my friend, I bet you you can’t name 10 tier 1 IGLs for the 10 teams in franchising next year

its better to not have an igl if you are looking to make foxie one

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Rexx [#17]

Avova is the best controller in EMEA, the problem is pipson who doesnt understand how to use him, literally once pipson joined G2 avova started playing bad

Is pipson really a bad coach? G2 had some nice ideas with him, they changed the way icebox is played right now

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jackb2016
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inkie [#14]

fnatic is 100x times better without him

Yeah without him and magnum too…

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bonkashi
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buddyhoodie [#26]

You're actually right lol I was like "no way" and started writing a list and only got to like 7-8. Yeah you're right he could get signed.

Although he was dogshit in VRL spain with Queso so the guy isn't that consistent either

vlr.gg user humility?? huge w

#34
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bonkashi [#33]

vlr.gg user humility?? huge w

Yup, didn’t expect it at all atp

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Valgod [#31]

Is pipson really a bad coach? G2 had some nice ideas with him, they changed the way icebox is played right now

I don't know if is a good coach, at least he is not getting results as good as he was getting while coaching giants, but the way he aproaches to some players (avova) makes the player to downgrade their level, of course is not only pipson the reason G2 is not finding any succes, but is one of the problems to solve looking forward into franchises

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moatz [#3]

bonecold, baddyg, doma too

Bonecold talent lmaoo

#37
nutab1e
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Rexx [#35]

I don't know if is a good coach, at least he is not getting results as good as he was getting while coaching giants, but the way he aproaches to some players (avova) makes the player to downgrade their level, of course is not only pipson the reason G2 is not finding any succes, but is one of the problems to solve looking forward into franchises

yeah I really thought avova was one of the best controllers in the world last year, so sad to see the fall off

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Valgod [#31]

Is pipson really a bad coach? G2 had some nice ideas with him, they changed the way icebox is played right now

we have no way of rating how good coaches are, all we have is that pipson was given a star roster, told people he'd be able to turn anyone into an igl and well... g2 have been struggling with executers and mid round calling
this might not be related to him at all but the least we can say is that he wasn't able to achieve his vision with the roster yet
as long as the roster believes in him and vice versa he's still got time to prove us wrong since they def have the talent for it

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