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Mjtchell

I've already commented this somewhere, but I wanted to reiterate for those who didn't read it and don't understand cultural bias.

People don't understand cultural bias.
There's a Korean word that very much sounds like the N-word and is very often used as its essential to the language.
Especially since Koreans aren't even aware of the struggles that black people faced in America/around the world they shouldn't be expected to be censoring themselves for a word that bares a resemblance to another.
Keznit is not aware that he said anything racist as what he said has no racial meaning to him.
Now that he was made aware he has very obviously not said anything to the affect of what he had previously stated.
Trying to take his career away for something that wasn't offensive to him is downright ridiculous in my opinion

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Okayyyyyy

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Common Mjtchell W, people gotta stop misinterpreting information then acting like they’re victims, fans are taking more offence than the players themselves (who understood what keznit meant from the beginning)

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Mjtchell

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Appreciate you 🙏

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it shouldn't even be deep, when you consider the fact he's actually good friends with lots of BR players including aspas and loud players and many more. He got sanctioned from being toxic in 1 scrim thats it. he said the guy looked like CJ and the other dude said he and mazino looked like other 2 fictional characters. guess what? all 3 fucking look like the characters, and it was just toxicity from the three players (btw dgzin was the one who started the shittalk). it's not as deep as "he said he was a gang member bc hes black" no... he just looks like CJ and thats it.

keznit is friends with most of these BR players, and it's ridiculous that certain brazilians take any excuse to play victim and make controversy...

P.S. these brazilians are also a minority (just a very vocal one) most brazilians honestly still know that LATAM and BR are manitos 🤝❤️

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very poor comparison. it's not the same thing. LATAM countries DO UNDERSTAND racism and keznit know the multiple things he said were offensive.
don't fucking spread information you are not sure about.

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Mjtchell

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Koreans also understand racism, but they don't completely get the picture that, that specific word could bear resemblance to a slur.
Literally read anyone else in addition to me and you'd understand you're wrong.

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buddyhoodie

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factually wrong and playing victim for no reason. primate thing was literally him and aspas calling each other the equivalent of "bro" or "mate" and ppl making it a dumb thing. dgzin thing was literally your average shittalk, but blown out of proportion by the guy who started the shittalk (dgzin himself) which is wrong but really really far from racist

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i am not even talking about "primate thing". never heard of that, i don't care about that shit.

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Mjtchell

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youre literally just talking to hear yourself talk at that point

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lol

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enri

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Can you please tell us briefly what he said was racist so we could judge you

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Racism is everywhere but expecting targetting someone for their language just because of similarities between words is beyond absurd and immature.

There is a chinese word that sounds like the n-word but means something completely different obviously, and is used very commonly, but the amount of people that get offended by it is offensive in of itself.

People are overreacting to something they do not understand anything about, yet they think the whole world revolves around themselves.

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Mjtchell

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Narcissism for ya

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Context?

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i hope koreans change their language if thats the case, truly insensitive.

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WinterZ

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0/8 + before u fall for it vlr remember the dexter how to spot a baiter handbook

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hellohello139

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He's not wrong, just don't say that word infront of an African American or Brazilian

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WinterZ

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the guy is literally asking to change an important word word which is part of their language. Thats a bit far if you ask me but you do you ig

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prxfanboy

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Holy shit you are retarded since i know you are being serious. Koreans can speak whatever the fuck they want when it's their own language and has nothing to do with a racist word from the other side of the planet. Imagine how entitled u have to be to even saying this.

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hellohello139

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You aren't even korean stfu no one asked you little pussy

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prxfanboy

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no need to be korean to be angry at braindead comments

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And you are?

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its not bait, the world is becoming more globalized and ppl from every corner of the world are interacting with each other, so it is important that they know about world history and the struggle of certain people and how this word was used to oppress them, ig north kr can still use it bc they have closed borders, but if ur from south kr they should be more aware

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prxfanboy

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no, if im korean i will speak my language when I want to and will not change it because some random fucking foreigner who has nothing to do with the country's history said so. If im not mistaken the similar word in korean is literally mean "Me" or "I". Nobody gonna fucking change this kid.

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WinterZ

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you do realize that the word has probably been around for thousands of years right? It would probably take years to get people to use whichever new word replaces it. not everyone in the world revolves around western culture.

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chloeburbank

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i mean korean culture has already taken soo much from western culture like k pop movies, cars, western medicine and western technologies so why is this an exception???

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WinterZ

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I’m sorry but k-pop is not western culture. What do you think the k stands for in k-pop. Also, those other things were not changed from old Korean culture, sure, they come from the west but they were integrated into the korean culture and didn’t replace anything of particular importance. What you want to do would be drastically changing their culture and their vocabulary because the word in question means you/I in korean.

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chloeburbank

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k pop is literally using western popular culture sounds and dance move, K rock and K hip hop is also really big, both art forms black people started and still they cant respect their struggle, thats cultural appropriation at its finest

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WinterZ

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Idk what to say to you if you think black people invented K-Pop or K-Rock or K-HipHop. That sentence is just wrong on so many levels.

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chloeburbank

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i said they invented rock and hiphop and koreans are being influenced but it but still refuse to respect them

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WinterZ

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Why should they change an important part of their language because some random person who has no idea about korean culture said so. Koreans never tried to change black people’s culture so why do you think that they have a right to other people’s culture. Also, how does any of this affect you in any way? Its their culture and at the end of the day you need to respect it. The word was never intended to disrespect black people so why in the world do you care?

continue thread →

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cokeandyoghurt

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Send me the good stuff you're on. I admire you.

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There is a difference between a culture taking parts of foreign culture, adapting and integrating it into their own, and being forced to take parts of a foreign culture (while your own just has no need for it currently since it isn't causing issues).
Wishing for "western culture" (not that you can even define such a thing currently) to be template for all other cultures is just plain destructive.

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idkbro

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true! hope spaniards change the way they say black too!

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cokeandyoghurt

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HAAHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHASHASHDAHHAHAHAHAHHA RIGHT

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Mjtchell

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Aint no way this is real😭

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kkkkk

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Carthage_Er_Pola

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The absolute mental gymnastics to prove keznit is racist is legit absurd

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trola

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you compare two things that absolutely different in daily use. 니가 (nee ga) literally means "you" in korean. of course korean cant censor themself to say word "you", its so different with keznit case

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idkbro

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what did he say?

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WinterZ

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He called him like a primate or something

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Mortadelo

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There were two incidents, we are talking about the previous one here where Keznit said a word commonly used in chilenean and Br people understood it as racist

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idkbro

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making words so offensive and taboo is a thing only english speaking culture does, in my mother tongue we say slurs for a living

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chloeburbank

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L mother tongue

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idkbro

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my school friends were saying the n word all day since they heard it in american songs a lot and thought it was cool and from my experience I didnt learn it was this offensive until very recently, some would call the n word as a joke to a friend who had a darker skin, hope americans learnt this, best way to make it less offensive is stop making it a taboo

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chloeburbank

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wow u really dont know anything + its not an issue exclusive to americans

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Mortadelo

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The word used in that context is. None other country uses it that way unless you’ve learnt it from America

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What is even happening, someone explain?

Why do fans keep talking about Keznit being a racist.

Can you all let the guy just chill?

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Wronghand

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I don't know the context but I'm gonna take its as a common English L. People who speak English forget that other languages exist. Ya know they guy on tik tok rn who said itadakimasu (Thanks for the meal in Japanese, I believe) who is getting trolled cause he said it fast and it sounded like the Nword. English speakers are fucking brain dead, myself included.

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edit

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eryane

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This is going to sound crazy but I think it is necessary that something happens to keznit so that all those who have collaborated in creating hatred towards him in the OFFICIAL broadcast of Brazil are fired. Brazil has a very serious education problem, it is inexplicable how their region has threatened to kill so many players without consequence. Their own referents of the scene feed it, in Spain you do something like that and the referents always condemn it.

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Jokes apart the security at lcq needs to be real strong

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Mjtchell

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Yea it does. No player should feel unsafe at an event

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cokeandyoghurt

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HAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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did trembolona get banned already? :D

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brado

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before you seek to be understood by others. first seek to understand others

Keznit Situation

I've already commented this somewhere, but I wanted to reiterate for those who didn't read it and don't understand cultural bias.