Sure they lost the first map but they are no joke, definitely way better than Japan teams pre-Zeta. There was some messy stuff but also some great stuff
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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#5]ofc it's their map pick and still lost
yeah drx has played ascent a lot in kr
seankukuz [#7]cheering for NTH but as long as Guild beats Optic my day is secured
Sorry imma have to hope optic wins that one so we get a Loud v Optic rematch. That would be insane.
zardinez [#10]Sorry imma have to hope optic wins that one so we get a Loud v Optic rematch. That would be insane.
Cheering for a guild vs optic lower bracket win then : )
seankukuz [#11]Cheering for a guild vs optic lower bracket win then : )
Definitely possible! If there's a Guild v Optic rematch, whoever lost the first game has a better chance to win imo.
charleston [#13]I don't think many NTH fans expected them to win against DRX anyway. NTH ez beat Xerxia and FPX though.
Gtfo lmfao, imagine thinking a team is good because they played against the biggest frauds in valorant
Giannero [#14]Gtfo lmfao, imagine thinking a team is good because they played against the biggest frauds in valorant
Fnatic flair 🤓🤓🤓
Giannero [#14]Gtfo lmfao, imagine thinking a team is good because they played against the biggest frauds in valorant
reply bug?
Giannero [#14]Gtfo lmfao, imagine thinking a team is good because they played against the biggest frauds in valorant
Fnatic flair 🤓🤓🤓
Closer [#16]T1 should pick up Meteor and sell steel for a Korean igl
They already have munchkin tho. I do agree T1 should go to korea for the health of both the NA and Korean regions but sadly they want the NA clout :/
Giannero [#20]Lol just wait for them to shit on every team in playoffs
Fnatic team = gigachads
Fnatic fans = fatherless losers with horrible takes
Sushi_ [#22]Fnatic team = gigachads
Fnatic fans = fatherless losers with horrible takes
PRX flair talking
Giannero [#20]Lol just wait for them to shit on every team in playoffs
lol they better or else they would be the most overrated team
Giannero [#20]Lol just wait for them to shit on every team in playoffs
believe me buddy ive been waiting 2 years for them to do that
zardinez [#21]They already have munchkin tho. I do agree T1 should go to korea for the health of both the NA and Korean regions but sadly they want the NA clout :/
Munchkin can flex to KAYO and other agents. Though it is true they want the NA clout
charleston [#25]believe me buddy ive been waiting 2 years for them to do that
just like we've been waiting for japan to do something
charleston [#25]believe me buddy ive been waiting 2 years for them to do that
Talking like fnatic didn't get top 2 once, and shit on DRX before. Japan ain't doing anything this tournament
mauge67 [#28]just like we've been waiting for japan to do something
I mean Japan did get 3rd last masters, that did happen
Giannero [#29]Talking like fnatic didn't get top 2 once, and shit on DRX before. Japan ain't doing anything this tournament
if a 2 1 with 2 10-13s is getting shit on than what the hell did zeta do to fnatic at reykavik
Giannero [#29]Talking like fnatic didn't get top 2 once, and shit on DRX before. Japan ain't doing anything this tournament
so SEN best team in the world
mauge67 [#31]where is that level nth then
We're talking about Japan in general, NTH just lost one map lollll
zardinez [#34]We're talking about Japan in general, NTH just lost one map lollll
im talking about japan in general too,if they dont do anything in this event and champs they have still done nothing to me, it confirms zeta run was a little bit fluke,but they have improved thats clear
mauge67 [#35]im talking about japan in general too,if they dont do anything in this event and champs they have still done nothing to me, it confirms zeta run was a little bit fluke,but they have improved thats clear
Fluke implies it was undeserved, which isn't fair. Zeta were just better.
zardinez [#36]Fluke implies it was undeserved, which isn't fair. Zeta were just better.
ok instead of fluke over performing, that zeta is not a accurate representation of how good japan can perform overrall
mauge67 [#37]ok instead of fluke over performing, that zeta is not a accurate representation of how good japan can perform overrall
wtf is this logic
archetype [#38]wtf is this logic
that zeta had one good event where everything clicked,its not that hard to understand
mauge67 [#37]ok instead of fluke over performing, that zeta is not a accurate representation of how good japan can perform overrall
But my point is Japan CAN perform well and Zeta proved that. Obviously Japanese teams aren't as consistent as NA/EU/DRX/Loud/Prx, but they are still contenders and that's really great to see. All last year, there was no hope that they could do anything, but now it seems possible. That's a big step, and if it keeps trending in that direction (with the inane Japanese viewership/interest), we could see Japan become super strong in a few years. Even if (in the worst case sceneario) NTH goes out in two games and doesn't win a map this tournament, that point is still true.
zardinez [#40]But my point is Japan CAN perform well and Zeta proved that. Obviously Japanese teams aren't as consistent as NA/EU/DRX/Loud/Prx, but they are still contenders and that's really great to see. All last year, there was no hope that they could do anything, but now it seems possible. That's a big step, and if it keeps trending in that direction (with the inane Japanese viewership/interest), we could see Japan become super strong in a few years. Even if (in the worst case sceneario) NTH goes out in two games and doesn't win a map this tournament, that point is still true.
i need to see more than one tournament to believe that,one tournament performance doesn't prove any kind of trend especially when japan was significantly weaker than other regions before,i belive they are improving but they are still not that good
mauge67 [#39]that zeta had one good event where everything clicked,its not that hard to understand
So has Brazil, and they bypassed groups, stop chatting shit
Okayyyyyy [#44]So has Brazil, and they bypassed groups, stop chatting shit
yeah but loud is actually a strong team that everyone looked at as contenders before the tournament and everyone said they were good in scrims and brazil already showed a lot more potential in events before, completely different thing,use ur brain
mauge67 [#46]yeah but loud is actually a strong team that everyone looked at as contenders before the tournament and everyone said they were good in scrims and brazil already showed a lot more potential in events before, completely different thing,use ur brain
Bringing up scrims like they mean something, some teams blacklisted zeta and look where they ended up. And Japan had promising moments too?? They literally came so close to knocking out Gambit in Berlin, the potential was there, again, stop chatting shit, Brazil did fuck all until last tournament, came close against lesser ranked teams, so I dont want to hear it
Okayyyyyy [#48]Bringing up scrims like they mean something, some teams blacklisted zeta and look where they ended up. And Japan had promising moments too?? They literally came so close to knocking out Gambit in Berlin, the potential was there, again, stop chatting shit, Brazil did fuck all until last tournament, came close against lesser ranked teams, so I dont want to hear it
ofc theres a difference if the other team keeps dominating in scrims and other getting blacklisted because of how bad they were,everyone who watched zetas jp games said there was close to no improvement and they were still not impressive, even from the eye test loud is 50x better than zeta and its not even close,why are you even indicating japan is close to the level of brazil because they arent thats the sad reality cope japan apologist
zardinez [#12]Definitely possible! If there's a Guild v Optic rematch, whoever lost the first game has a better chance to win imo.
Guild is so inconsistent imo, i wouldn't rule out KRU beating them
mauge67 [#49]ofc theres a difference if the other team keeps dominating in scrims and other getting blacklisted because of how bad they were,everyone who watched zetas jp games said there was close to no improvement and they were still not impressive, even from the eye test loud is 50x better than zeta and its not even close,why are you even indicating japan is close to the level of brazil because they arent thats the sad reality cope japan apologist
Can’t have been that bad they came 3rd???💀💀 and you can talk that rubbish all you want the H2H between Japan and brazil is 2-2, with Japan taking the most recent match, so brazil aren’t better than anybody, they have one strong team and the rest are way below them, Zeta’s run was more impressive than Loud, cope Brazilian dick rider
Okayyyyyy [#53]Can’t have been that bad they came 3rd???💀💀 and you can talk that rubbish all you want the H2H between Japan and brazil is 2-2, with Japan taking the most recent match, so brazil aren’t better than anybody, they have one strong team and the rest are way below them, Zeta’s run was more impressive than Loud, cope Brazilian dick rider
brazil scene is not strong either but stronger than japan,i literally pray nth play against loud so they can get absolutely shit on and you wake up from ur delusion,is it some japanese tradition to get pooped on in your opening match and then go god mode for the rest of the tournament,yeah they were playing good in ONE tournament out of nowhere that doesnt mean anything yet considering japans level before that,im not buying in to the hype until i see some more from them,playing good once and being good consistently are 2 different things
mauge67 [#55]brazil scene is not strong either but stronger than japan,i literally pray nth play against loud so they can get absolutely shit on and you wake up from ur delusion,is it some japanese tradition to get pooped on in your opening match and then go god mode for the rest of the tournament,yeah they were playing good in ONE tournament out of nowhere that doesnt mean anything yet considering japans level before that,im not buying in to the hype until i see some more from them,playing good once and being good consistently are 2 different things
Any team that isn’t brazils number 1 seed either struggles or loses to Japan, like I said, the H2H is 2-2, don’t forget NIP got slapped by zeta, wake up you clown lol, the Brazilian region is literally a one team region, everything you say is speculation, Brazil has literally had 1 good tournament and that’s it, you can’t say shit about Japan when you’re in the same boat, you can’t face reality and accept that Brazil and Japan are literally on equal footing, and everything points in my favour💀
Okayyyyyy [#56]Any team that isn’t brazils number 1 seed either struggles or loses to Japan, like I said, the H2H is 2-2, don’t forget NIP got slapped by zeta, wake up you clown lol, the Brazilian region is literally a one team region, everything you say is speculation, Brazil has literally had 1 good tournament and that’s it, you can’t say shit about Japan when you’re in the same boat, you can’t face reality and accept that Brazil and Japan are literally on equal footing, and everything points in my favour💀
everything you say is speculating too,theres a difference between top teams and teams who just had have potential and 1 great runt,no ones taking away your little zetas good performance but idgaf if they cant keep the level up,i like how its totally acceptable to call acend a fluke because they won but fell off but when you say the same about zeta you get these cringe western weaboo japan defenders like you to shut down any criticism or doubt
mauge67 [#57]everything you say is speculating too,theres a difference between top teams and teams who just had have potential and 1 great runt,no ones taking away your little zetas good performance but idgaf if they cant keep the level up,i like how its totally acceptable to call acend a fluke because they won but fell off but when you say the same about zeta you get these cringe western weaboo japan defenders like you to shut down any criticism or doubt
There’s literally no speculation you fool, I literally used the H2H records NA the most recent results to prove my point?? Who the fuck mentioned acend lol, you can’t be insulting westerners when the majority of the valorant community hates Brazil because of people like you. There’s literally nothing wrong with defending something or someone, you’re just mad because what you’re talking is shit with no basis, Loud is making your region relevant, there’s no team other than loud good enough to be on the global stage and we see that time and time again
Okayyyyyy [#58]There’s literally no speculation you fool, I literally used the H2H records NA the most recent results to prove my point?? Who the fuck mentioned acend lol, you can’t be insulting westerners when the majority of the valorant community hates Brazil because of people like you. There’s literally nothing wrong with defending something or someone, you’re just mad because what you’re talking is shit with no basis, Loud is making your region relevant, there’s no team other than loud good enough to be on the global stage and we see that time and time again
im literally finnish moron can you not see my flag,the fact is loud is better than zeta or nth,i like how you dodged my point about acend tough proves my point even more,was acend not a fluke yes or no? if yes you cant be crying when someone thinks the same about zeta,also as i said brazil and japan are both weak regions but loud is still ahead of every jp team,jp teams could easily beat br teams
mauge67 [#59]im literally finnish moron can you not see my flag,the fact is loud is better than zeta or nth,i like how you dodged my point about acend tough proves my point even more,was acend not a fluke yes or no? if yes you cant be crying when someone thinks the same about zeta,also as i said brazil and japan are both weak regions but loud is still ahead of every jp team,jp teams could easily beat br teams
You literally have a LOUD flair you fucking idiot are you this stupid lmaooooooo?? I never even said you were Brazilian smfh, and I didn’t dodge it, I found it an irrelevant point and answered it accordingly. How can winning champions be a fucking fluke, are you actually thinking about what you’re writing? Top 4 finishes are not flukes, calling it such takes away from how well they preform
Okayyyyyy [#60]You literally have a LOUD flair you fucking idiot are you this stupid lmaooooooo?? I never even said you were Brazilian smfh, and I didn’t dodge it, I found it an irrelevant point and answered it accordingly. How can winning champions be a fucking fluke, are you actually thinking about what you’re writing? Top 4 finishes are not flukes, calling it such takes away from how well they preform
"Loud is making your region relevant" yeah yeah ofc you didnt fucking moron,how is it so hard to understand a fluke can be a team performing better than they normally do,again if japan keeps performing up to the expectations then its safe to say they improved are at that level,but not of the basis of one event
mauge67 [#61]"Loud is making your region relevant" yeah yeah ofc you didnt fucking moron,how is it so hard to understand a fluke can be a team performing better than they normally do,again if japan keeps performing up to the expectations then its safe to say they improved are at that level,but not of the basis of one event
Hopefully someone somewhere can explain to me what the fuck that first sentence meant, how can Zeta be performing better than usual when this is a completely new roster that nobody had ever seen before the Japanese qualifiers. That last point you made, however, I somewhat agree, but I’d say that it’d only serve to measure how much they’ve improved, it’d be unfair to say they haven’t improved quite a bit.
Okayyyyyy [#62]Hopefully someone somewhere can explain to me what the fuck that first sentence meant, how can Zeta be performing better than usual when this is a completely new roster that nobody had ever seen before the Japanese qualifiers. That last point you made, however, I somewhat agree, but I’d say that it’d only serve to measure how much they’ve improved, it’d be unfair to say they haven’t improved quite a bit.
" I never even said you were Brazilian smfh"
"Loud is making your region relevant"
also i have literally never said they didnt improve they did but not as much as the zeta run made everyone think,i dont rate that as japan just going from the worst region to contenders in one tournament
mauge67 [#63]" I never even said you were Brazilian smfh"
"Loud is making your region relevant"
also i have literally never said they didnt improve they did but not as much as the zeta run made everyone think,i dont rate that as japan just going from the worst region to contenders in one tournament
You’re a loud fan, you represent the region as a fan of loud, you don’t have to be Brazilian to be a loud fan lmao.
Also calling them contenders would be beyond delusional, however I think calling these runs flukey takes away from how much Japan really has improved
Okayyyyyy [#65]You’re a loud fan, you represent the region as a fan of loud, you don’t have to be Brazilian to be a loud fan lmao.
Also calling them contenders would be beyond delusional, however I think calling these runs flukey takes away from how much Japan really has improved
im not a loud "fan" i dont even cheer for loud rn i just put it as my flair,also no you cant represent brazil as a non brazil i dont know what your on about,its impossible to say how much japan improved because of one tournament these next to are about to show that
mauge67 [#66]im not a loud "fan" i dont even cheer for loud rn i just put it as my flair,also no you cant represent brazil as a non brazil i dont know what your on about,its impossible to say how much japan improved because of one tournament these next to are about to show that
Well having a loud flair is meant to indicate you support loud, that’s what flairs are for. And yes you can, if you support a Brazilian team, that teams fan base will represent the region especially on the global stage?? And yes, that is correct, at this point their improvement is quantifiable, but it’s wrong to say they haven’t improved greatly, seeing the way they struggled for so long
Okayyyyyy [#67]Well having a loud flair is meant to indicate you support loud, that’s what flairs are for. And yes you can, if you support a Brazilian team, that teams fan base will represent the region especially on the global stage?? And yes, that is correct, at this point their improvement is quantifiable, but it’s wrong to say they haven’t improved greatly, seeing the way they struggled for so long
for the last time its one team and one tournament it doesn't mean japan improved to that level over night and no im not a loud fan and you cant represent brazil fans as a non Brazilian now argue with a wall bye
bentseH [#64]how about now?
I stand by my point tbh. They got smoked on one map by DRX in groups. Zeta was smoked on two.
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