FNATIC and FPX are crushing it in europe rn. NA on the other hand seems so random. I think that FNATIC is going to win Copenhagen easily if they continue to play like that, they honestly look like the best team of all time.
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Fnatic, Fpx and Guild are the three current best teams in EU
optic, 100T, Eg in NA
Loud is just miles ahead in Br
same in KR with Drx
Prx still seem like the best Apac team
But idk how to rank the different regions. I think EU and NA are pretty much matched but Loud and Drx are always good for surprises so its kinda hard to tell
Noyn [#4]Fnatic always choke on the international stage, remember that Alfajer still hasn't played in LAN either
Playing on LAN is not a big deal
Look at Spirit CSGO, they have very young guys who just came from academy (patsi, s1ren), yet they went to semifinals in Antwerp and these 2 didn't choke like they were "supposed to"
Same for b1t during Stockholm major, he was insane although it was his 1st LAN
Additionally, Magnum always choked on LANs under pressure, Alfajer definitely can't be worse than that
Elcatsu [#5]Fnatic i would agree but fpx looking eh right now and hoping eu finally get top 4
Finally?
Olofboost [#7]Playing on LAN is not a big deal
Look at Spirit CSGO, they have very young guys who just came from academy (patsi, s1ren), yet they went to semifinals in Antwerp and these 2 didn't choke like they were "supposed to"
Same for b1t during Stockholm major, he was insane although it was his 1st LAN
Additionally, Magnum always choked on LANs under pressure, Alfajer definitely can't be worse than that
choking on LAN with no crowd OMEGALUL
Elcatsu [#5]Fnatic i would agree but fpx looking eh right now and hoping eu finally get top 4
Eu got top 4 every tournament except Iceland 2022...the only tournament which made eu vulnerable due to restrictions.
Kiklop [#6]Ur new in val right? Cuz fnc was always better on land than online except last masters
Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
I wouldn’t call it random. For the longest time NA remained stagnant with sen just dominating the domestic scene. Now teams are innovating with new comps, picking up smaller players, and improving daily. This is amazing for the NA scene and give it a new life. I would call the NA scene competitive, which imo is the best you can ask for as it pushes teams to get even better.
Noyn [#11]Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
when did they come in as title fav? the only time they did was in 2021 iceland and they got close to it with a 2nd finish. in champions everyone was underestimating them and some even calling them the worst team in the group who would lose to even the likes of full sense. they then went on to leave the group with first seed, did pretty well as to what was expected from them. and in 2022 no one expected anything from them with 2 subs. they were never the title fav other than 2021 iceland. stop saying random points that are totally incorrect or anecdotal
Noyn [#11]Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
sounds like a certain someone from the Korean region
373washoooi [#15]sounds like a certain someone from the Korean region
i dont think anybody rated DRX as title favourites this Masters. Most people, and all Korean fans, rated them at a solid A tier, hoping for Top 8 at best.
Elcatsu [#5]Fnatic i would agree but fpx looking eh right now and hoping eu finally get top 4
Bro is calling FPX eh only for 1-2 vs FNATIC, other than that they've 2-0'd every team, like what, Sure FNATIC is better but FPX isn't eh, FPX is still really good
(before the replies, I know that FNATIC also 2-0'd all matches except vs FPX)
Noyn [#11]Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
Ehh when? Masters 2 2021 they were arguably the favorites, but lost to Sentinels twice and in the finals. Sentinels were the dominant team that tournament. Masters 3 2021 they didn't make it. Champions they came as 4th EMEA seed and no one had expectation for them, but they still managed to top their group (like all EMEA teams) and get into playoffs losing to KRU who were on a heater. And in Masters 1 2022 they had 2 subs so that doesn't even count.
Elso [#20]Bro is calling FPX eh only for 1-2 vs FNATIC, other than that they've 2-0'd every team, like what, Sure FNATIC is better but FPX isn't eh, FPX is still really good
(before the replies, I know that FNATIC also 2-0'd all matches except vs FPX)
Yeah I don't get this. FPX looks really really good right now, but people for some reason are underrating them. Crazy individual talent, good strats, flexible, can play every map and arguably best preparation/anti-strat out of any team. They read every team they play so well. Also consistent considering that they won last stage and have continued being top 2. And even against Fnatic that was their first game of stage 2 and were playing Ardiis Breach and ANGE1 Yoru on Fracture.
NA isnt random, its just teams are really closely matched and one team is better one week but then the other team comes up with new strats and they become the best and that cycle is still going on, so basically theres no team that is dominant in NA like FNC but that might be a good thing because it forces others and themselves to get better
symbols07 [#13]when did they come in as title fav? the only time they did was in 2021 iceland and they got close to it with a 2nd finish. in champions everyone was underestimating them and some even calling them the worst team in the group who would lose to even the likes of full sense. they then went on to leave the group with first seed, did pretty well as to what was expected from them. and in 2022 no one expected anything from them with 2 subs. they were never the title fav other than 2021 iceland. stop saying random points that are totally incorrect or anecdotal
They were 2nd seed emea
Noyn [#11]Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
They have never come in as title favourites tf are ya talking about lmao. Even in Iceland 2021Liquid was being rated higher while I don't even have to say anything about Champs (fucking full sense was being rated higher by some people, fnatic was literally being called one of the weakest in the tourney by most). Iceland 2022 they played with 2 subs
Shownu [#35]2nd seed with 2 subs, one for their star fragger Derke
I meant first masters Reykjavik. If I remember liquid was 1st seed and fnc 2nd
Elcatsu [#30]Yeah they didn't get to top 4 m1 and g2 got rekt by a yoru
But they did it many times before. In ur sentence I would replace finaly with again
YvngKurry [#12]I wouldn’t call it random. For the longest time NA remained stagnant with sen just dominating the domestic scene. Now teams are innovating with new comps, picking up smaller players, and improving daily. This is amazing for the NA scene and give it a new life. I would call the NA scene competitive, which imo is the best you can ask for as it pushes teams to get even better.
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Deleted_User_b9f2b691 [#2]Fnatic, Fpx and Guild are the three current best teams in EU
optic, 100T, Eg in NA
Loud is just miles ahead in Br
same in KR with Drx
Prx still seem like the best Apac team
But idk how to rank the different regions. I think EU and NA are pretty much matched but Loud and Drx are always good for surprises so its kinda hard to tell
LOUD hasn't lost a game yet maybe they still got a chance
Noyn [#11]Sure, but they always come in as title favorites and underperforming in the playoffs
Eae noyn 😭
Deleted_User_b9f2b691 [#2]Fnatic, Fpx and Guild are the three current best teams in EU
optic, 100T, Eg in NA
Loud is just miles ahead in Br
same in KR with Drx
Prx still seem like the best Apac team
But idk how to rank the different regions. I think EU and NA are pretty much matched but Loud and Drx are always good for surprises so its kinda hard to tell
Mmmm, curious how all the teams you mentioned are the ones with a dedicated, proven and expert IGL
lalaser93 [#43]Mmmm, curious how all the teams you mentioned are the ones with a dedicated, proven and expert IGL
Challenge: Make everything about sentinels
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R3LOAD [#40]LOUD hasn't lost a game yet maybe they still got a chance
People are sleeping on LOUD and DRX, but LOUD is better rn, i am sure that they will make at least the top 3 in the next tournament, if not win everything
Dokka [#44]Challenge: Make everything about sentinels
Passed successfully
Noooo, actually Shaz is an IGL and an expert IGL to boot. Was dissing the G2s / liquids / 90% of all the tier 2 teams.
Sen has no issues in my view, its just that they are running players that were gods in the beta, and the game has grown.
be699 [#14]Vivo Keyd is going to win Champions this year, with Mwzera and Heat combining 1000 kills in the tournament
Furia,NIP,Loud,MIBR>Vivo kek
kristof [#47]Fnc > FPX > Guild > Acend > Liquid > M3c > Loud > Kru > G2
this is my top 10 itw
LMFAO
lalaser93 [#48]Noooo, actually Shaz is an IGL and an expert IGL to boot. Was dissing the G2s / liquids / 90% of all the tier 2 teams.
Sen has no issues in my view, its just that they are running players that were gods in the beta, and the game has grown.
He ran Jett raze on split…..
archetype [#19]FNC, OpTic, FPX, Guild (if they dont choke), XIA, PRX, LOUD, DRX, ZETA, maybe even EG or 100T but I think we need to wait for playoffs to be sure. I wouldn't rate EG or 100T yet though because I think Optic are still the best NA team by a decent amount. (++100T and EG are somewhat new rosters)
100t are on a trajectory to be better than optic by playoffs if not already
Psion [#53]100t are on a trajectory to be better than optic by playoffs if not already
they look good for sure but Optic has obviously been together longer whereas 100T is still a new roster, so I'm being cautious.
joaosgreva [#56]meh, fpx=drx>100t
zeta>100t
if u think zeta would beat 100t idk what ur on. miracle runs don't happen twice, KRU got 3rd-4th at champs, but bombed out masters 1, zeta won't get top 4 again
Psion [#57]if u think zeta would beat 100t idk what ur on. miracle runs don't happen twice, KRU got 3rd-4th at champs, but bombed out masters 1, zeta won't get top 4 again
idk what UR on, ZETA had a better run than 100t lol
https://www.vlr.gg/99694/tsm-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-w2 cry about it
siriuziun [#46]People are sleeping on LOUD and DRX, but LOUD is better rn, i am sure that they will make at least the top 3 in the next tournament, if not win everything
i wonder where i've heard this before...
joaosgreva [#58]idk what UR on, ZETA had a better run than 100t lol
https://www.vlr.gg/99694/tsm-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-w2 cry about it
lmao one loss in group stages
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