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| Last post: | September 24, 2025 at 12:42 AM |
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The level of competition in GC is so low right now that it’s not even worth spending all that much time prepping for. There are barely any teams and you can probably just anti stat a bit in advance and do fine simply off of having way better individuals.
I mean this also is a factor but the biggest reason is they are just the most replaceable and riot really really wants M8
I mean either way the point is that KOI have low sales and M8 have high sales
Pretty sure they said in their twitter video that they were the lowest in sales. Idk Spanish but that’s what the people in comments doing the translation said.
Lack of warning was probably because the need to keep M8 happened at the end of the season when they got relegated. If they didn’t get relegated KOI probably would get away with the contract breach.
just make all the teams SEN ur right
"Didn't purposely break the contract" And why does it matter? They still broke it, and now they are the most replaceable team in VCT since their contract is invalid. There is no "loophole," they straight up broke contract and riot can relegate them at any time even if they offer a stopgap fix.
No, they were not misled. Riot were willing to overlook them breaching contract temporarily but then the better option of M8 came up. KOI is a low performing team with bad sales and lower views than M8. Riot wants to keep them, and KOI are replaceable. That's all there is to it. "No further warnings" does not mean anything, just that the decision was sudden from Riot and understandably so because M8 just got relegated at the end of the season. Bad circumstances to be in. Not a conspiracy against KOI.
KOI fans, I get that it feels unfair, but its honestly just unlucky. Riot has no hidden agenda against your team specifically, contrary to what some of you think. Wrong circumstances at the wrong time. KOI is definitely a good org that would have been worth keeping had M8 stocks not been so high in Riot's eyes. Just hope for 2027 partnership.
They are at fault still for signing a contract they cannot deliver on. Yes, external factors contributed to this and you can complain all you want about that. When I said KOI had no grounds to complain I did not mean they can't whine about it on twitter.
I mean that this "breach of trust" bullshit you are trying to bring up is completely backwards. KOI broke trust by breaching contract, NO MATTER THE REASONS. You have it completely backwards. This is not "dealing in bad faith." KOI were not lied to, deceived, or misled into breaking their contract so that riot could replace them. They just so happened to be the only replaceable team and riot just so happen to want M8 in franchising for business reasons. There is no hidden conspiracy against KOI specifically. If anything Riot probably want to keep both, but it came down to M8 or KOI and KOI is just worse off than M8. Riot have no special treatment for KOI no matter how much you want it.
Breach of contract is not a small issue in the business world.
Contracts are meant to be followed, which is exactly why they are written carefully and agreed upon after much consideration rather than some informal verbal agreement.
The thing is most orgs haven't breached their contract, and have no plans to do so. If riot is so willing to follow the contracts by the letter like this then orgs should feel even more secure in their spots, as riot cannot unilaterally cancel their partnership unless they explicitly fuck up.
Regardless of if you think their removal was right or wrong, they broke the contract themselves and that's plenty enough of a reason to get kicked.
Riot's words say otherwise
MKOI video says they had severe underperformance in bundle sales
But yes, KOI did get kicked because they had no better options to kick (rumored to consider BBL) but my point is not to disagree with that. I am just saying that M8 brings in more by current metrics and that is why KOI is being replaced.
KOI broke the contract first they have zero grounds to complain
If anything KOI broke trust by failing to uphold the contract they signed, regardless of circumstances
This is not some betrayal, its just business
I get you are mad about it as a fan but this is just reality. Riot on paper did nothing wrong and KOI made the mistake and got punished accordingly.
domestic viewership doesn't mean much to riot
if you can make money they won't care how many fans from your country you have
TH has a pretty big international fan base afaik and their bundle sales are far from the lowest in VCT (unlike KOI)
and KOI being replaced by M8 is better for the league from a business POV considering how popular M8 is and how well they sell their bundle
KOI need the LEC just as much as riot needs them. Its a mutually beneficial partnership, and unless KOI wants to kill their org permanently they have no choice but to keep participating in the LEC. League is still the biggest esport in the world by far and KOI would be stupid to give up on it over their own breach of contract. Riot isn't making the ethically correct choice maybe, but they are making a calculated business choice knowing that it won't affect the LEC at all.
if riot weren't pushed to that point by M8 they could have just considered them for the 2027 cycle and kept KOI
This was not a pre planned move. We all heard the rumors about BBL being kicked for M8. Riot are desperate to keep them in valorant this year and there would be no reason for this desperation without M8 strongly communicating an intention to permanently pull out of valorant without a guaranteed spot.
the competition doesn't matter at all atp
teams with terrible histories of winlessness like furia and DFM still pull in more fan engagement than KOI has
In comparison to what M8 has been delivering as a mere ascension team, KOI is a huge letdown in fan engagement. That is where the money is at. You could go winless and riot would not care as long as fans buy merch and participate in the VCT ecosystem monetarily.
Well clearly riot didn't get that message. If M8 weren't seemingly desperately needed in valorant then riot would not even bother removing KOI. M8 probably communicated a high likelyhood of pulling out entirely if they weren't given a spot.
The costreaming isn't the issue.
M8 hostaged themselves by threatening to pull out of valorant without a spot, and considering how popular they are it makes sense to keep them in.
Either they keep KOI with bad fan participation or they bring in M8 who have much better fan engagement right now. The costreaming issue was just a good excuse to cut off the contract.
we have teams like furia and DFM who have had even longer periods of pure winlessness and they still manage to sell more bundles than KOI
M8 basically hostaged themselves by forcing riot to pick between them and KOI by threatening to leave valorant if they didn't get a spot. I think KOI still should try to get involved in partnership but riot definitely burned a few bridges with them with the way they handled it. They could have at least offered some verbal assurance of a 2027 spot consideration.
I mean yeah its shady af but a contract is a contract. If riot wants to replace you you absolutely cannot give them a reason to do so pre 2027.
I mean tbf it feels like riot was banking on KOI being able to bring in a massive fanbase to valorant but that didn't really happen
Not many fans, low bundle sales, low game viewership compared to expectations
Makes sense that if KOI isn't gonna deliver on the main reason they entered franchising then they get kicked
they didn't cover it up?
Asstrella
His mere presence alone has cursed DRX more than they already have been
Meteor, alfajer, leaf, tex are all former star duelists and they are now top sentinel players.
Chamber is the most viable ever right now than he has been in ages
Fnatic ascent, abyss, and corrode all have chamber as a viable pick
Sentinel is also arguably the easiest role for a duelist player to pick up. You already know how to counter entries and have a feel for defensive timings. There is a reason why leaf, tex, yay, meteor, and more have all made the role swap and looked insane. I honestly have yet to see a prominent duelist player look bad after swapping to sentinel.
We have seen him on chamber and that’s a sentinel
If yay can do it he can do it
He is arguably in better form that yay right now too
Nah make termi the HC
Frost is gonna hate getting bitched by termi
Brother you did not watch the game it’s been less than 5 minutes
demon1 can play neon Jett chamber brim astra omen
Sentinel is by far the easiest role to pick up imo since it’s legit just drop util and aim
I think he will be just fine
His omen was in decent form just prior to getting dropped. Feel like his early bad games on it are all people remember tho.
Projecting mada expectations onto demon1 is crazy
That guy is either thanos or urango
Bro are you sending a template or do u just not know how to share a completed tier list
like is the exam comprehensive over all of calc 1 or is it just on derivatives or something?
surely he isn't just a sub for vookashu right?
akeman has been so mid and demon1 can play neon clove cypher easily
DRG DEMON1 IS HERE TO STAY
MY GOAT COMING FOR KANG KANG
Acting like he played terribly
It was a comfortable 3:1 victory by TSM and they’re is only so much you can do on a losing team
Cane stomped them previously several times and you are making a judgement off of one bad game
Urango might be the only player so bad he’s become a figure of worship
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