it wasn't riot who had a problem, the gov. put sanctions on russia

they have obviously been playing valorant for a long time but a lot of them haven't been in the pro scene that long. e.g

Patmen, demon1, karon, s1mon.

these guys won in their rookie year. Also it's not just about winning, if a team integrates a rookie and they place better then I would consider this beneficial. You would expect teams with more rookies or newer players won't win internationals as often as veteran teams but if you have a rookie lineup and u give it 2 years or so then you have a great chance.

what??? why not just add Cned in then?

Berlin should be Cned and the rest I agree with

bc valorant has garnered a lot more attention in asia these last 3 years and for that reason there is a lot of new talent. Compare this to emea and americas where viewership and player count has remained the same or decreased and so there isn't any new talent which is why there aren't many new rookies in those regions. Basically talent is just recycled.

Obviously this isn't the sole reason but i feel like its a major one.

ok this is just pure cope. No offence but derke has larger shoes to fill

I liked this tournament more than all the 2024 internationals as well. Just felt like we don't have any cringe metas right now, no tejo post plant shit and no post plant spamming bomb

sorta crazy that they barely even qualified for toronto. 0-3 in groups and barely made it top 3 in playoffs.

If they didn't have any history (past internationals) then this would be the greatest cinderella run.

idk bout the grand final but the tournament overall was much better

I don't know how people in this thread think this is a good ranking. It's terrible in so many ways.

e.g
Liquid 3rd
FNC 1st
Wolves 6th

so the only teams that FNS is allowed to support without being "fake" are teams that he liked in 2022 and 2021?

Seems like A side is much better for attackers than B side tbh

ikr. I cant wait for PRX to win

Yes please

I assume its at the normal time since on vlr the final starts an hour later than usual

Prx is fav against fnc. Whats ur point?

guys this is for last champs....

you are restarted

LOUD vs FNC was the best

I see a lot of people who are serious with these types of posts. Especially since demon1 actually looked pretty good before he got kicked from lev

no bc he would replace cryo since he can't be the primary duelist. We already have a secondary entry which is cryo and he's amazing atm

OP is saying that EMEA wins the event bc right now they only have 5 trophies, I'm saying Apac wins and thats why I said 3

5 EMEA = 5 AMER > 3 PAC > 1CN u mean?

if u look at the average placement of emea teams vs americas teams then americas is still higher and so they performed better at this event

no

ok

you're cooked bro

swap emea and americas and its correct

carry harder bro

no shit but I cant tell which team u are rooting for as stated above

you cant compare bro, 2 different games with 2 different aiming styles

wait r u rooting for FNC or G2????

one comment u think fnc will win and the other u think fnc will lose

winner of upper bracket will always have more momentum though

nah bc of th curse

you are def below ascendant if u think this is bad valorant

EG, edg, and fpx were all more impressive

and in terms of just pure runs then wolves and zetas run can also be included

th will only lose to the 1st place and 3rd place team

toronto they only lost to prx and wolves.

champs they only lost to lev and edg

shanghai they lost to geng and g2 only

madrid they lost to sen and prx

all of these teams they lost to placed 1st and 3rd at their respective events and th doesnt lose to any other teams than the 3rd and 1st place teams

legit some of the best valorant ive seen in a while

you don't know ball bud

eg won in lower bracket.

if you are talking about cinderella run team losing 3-0 in lower bracket it happened with zeta and prx has lost in a gf twice.

But OP said "and" assuming both of these will happen which has never happened before unless u get rid of prx and just say upper bracket winning team

"prx will choke the grand final

and the cinderella run team loses in lower bracket 3-0"

this has only happened once before bro

no point trying to argue with the guy. He is too culturally attached to football to see that

I didnt say that once, please learn to read before accusing me.

yeah, honestly riot should reach out to blast for another tourney like what they have done for ewc this year. 5 internationals per year would be great. Riot could even just hand off the production to blast or smth and keep the current format and this would probably still be better than the current format.

"due to football being like a culture for kids growing up and so they play football as a young child, they grow up supporting a local team in their country with their whole family, its just not comparable to the rest of the world."

football is even more embedded into family and culture in south america. This is just objectively false

depends on ur rank

I mean a lot of this is only doable bc of the arena setup. But yeah production is amazing

nice one bro

what clip?????

excuse me???

yeah not too bad since there is for some reason no activity on vlr rn