when was this? just asking for more context, i understand he loves fnc environment
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when was this? just asking for more context, i understand he loves fnc environment
contract expiring and i guess maybe new challenges, like Derke last year
will he leave?
if so which team do you think so, i'm thinking either TL or NAVI
i predicted 2021 final was going to be Acend vs Gambit
and T1 winning masters Bangkok
i mean 3 times in a final, top 4 in madrid, top 3 in a champs
a lot of points between 2022 and 23
very clear that it is the org
6K VCT 2026
Mephisto MVP in Santiago, this is happening
when i did this format that tournament didn't exist, so i'm looking how to add it
Not top 5 imo,
but definetely Top 2 best supports
for me Sacy>
after ascension we're getting +2 and N°50 secured
Actualized after Stage 2 and VCT Champs
Last version: https://www.vlr.gg/467405/top-50-greatest-teams-of-all-time
[regional tournaments i took into account(only the winner gets points): First Strike, Masters 1(2021), Challengers playoffs(2021/22), LCQ(2021-23), FRANCHISING LEAGUES(2023-), FGC VALORANT Invitational (2023: Act 1), Ascension]
Changes:
+MIBR
-Sharks, NIP, FS, BME
Im not using EWC, maybe i will find a way to put it
I dont think is broken
He mastered the way to used it and makes it look crazy
But i think is more brawk than the odin
my guy is a duelist that had to change roles and stills the best at it
agree, i just say how they disrespect him so much with "trophies merchant"
same for aspas and the "baiter"
the baiter is the one that says he is a baiter
in that moment valyn and trent were just 2 randoms with future
now they're one of the best players in the world
but 2022 they were just promises
in fact NIP had more 2021 internationals than The Guard
agree 2024 eeiu is definetely better
but this year he wasn't that good
"yay look decent at the game"
that some disrespect to a player that dominated in every aspect and was the best player in the world by far
also being the best statistically before chamber (BERLIN 2021)
NIP made more international wins than The guard
so real brother
valid
stills he was the best player itw at the end of 2021 and got stopped by a war
Boom and Furia made champs in 2022
thats not impressive
BcJ in 2022 was better than eeiu in 2025
and dephh at XSET>>Boostio at 100T
also you missed some <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< between zekken and asuna
they literally received him at his prime with this roster:
stellar, bang, Derrek, Asuna
yeah that's why i said 100T
i also think is their fault
he had a better team in XSET than 100T
i mean i'm talking about a guy that was literally the best player in an international tournament in his first tournament
he seemed to be the new TenZ/yay
stills a crazy player
but in that time he was expected to be better than Alfajer
Champions 2021
Best player in the world
you were not there, you don't know
but he was by far the best in the tournament even better than nAts who was only better than him in the final
also the best player for FNATIC in Champs 2024 and Gambit in 2021 starting and Champs
same vibes as aspas in this champs
1.29 rating with XSET (5-6th)
bro was the best player in the tournament (statistically)
crazy how at 100T he hasn't been the superstar he seemed to be back then
still one of the best in americas
(i was looking at stats and remembered that)
(also to say, his IGL was dephh)
yeah
cause he doesn't play duelist
put aspas in viper, breach and Sova with d3ffo duelist and Redgar IGL, let's see if he even gets a good round
most dominant player ever
the goat if C9 didn't let him go
i hate how he is not talked for people
y0y meme got over the best prime we have ever seen
how is aspas even close brother
he literally was the worst player in the last international event
Chronicle has never been under 1.00 rating in any regional tournament
wdym brother
worst player of an entire international tournament will always be there for him
also getting grouped out
also being the 2nd worst LOUD 2022 champs player
also being always outperformed in the last moments
also losing a 11-3 in a grand final
also losing against FUT esports with a horrible performance
can we agree with this
Best level:
aspas>>>>Chronicle
Consistency/career
Chronicle>>>>aspas
this debate is comparing 2 players that are the completely opposite
in my books, the one that could be consider GOAT (with no doubt) is Alfajer if he continues in this level of dominance
i miss 2022 and starting 2023 when everyone agreed there was no player even close to yay
valid, that's why i say he is in the conversation
we can agree Alfajer is there, and probably will be the goat if he continues playing like this
agree, f0rsakeN is good but in my books still needs a better consistency to be a top 5 oat
and only wins at being a better flex (in terms of playing more agents)
but Chronicle is miles away f0r
im talking about alfajer ya goof
"and is on his way to be the MVP in champs"
MVP of Tokyo wasn't chronicle brother
the only dominant individually player ever that could deserve a "greatest of all time", was yay in 2021/2022
also we can tell Leo, as a player that was always the best without any problem
not at all, or at least not when talking with duelist
you can compare a initiator to a smoker with ACS
but a duelist gets too much advantage in that stat always
so comparing Derke is like putting him against Ethan in APR
ACS is not Rating so i wouldn't count that
and Lock-In stats min 125 is crazy cause you can get top 8 without it
W
TY brother, i'm not working a lot rn in VCT things, but finishing the year i'll restart with it
losing is not carrying brother
making a crazy match and breaking individual records but losing is not carrying
Registered: August 21, 2025
is like start seeing football this year and saying Dembele is the GOAT
yeah i meant he is the most likely as of today
Alfajer MVP in Tokyo
people MVP in Toronto
and is on his way to be the MVP in champs
no way you get him out of the conversation
undoubtly top 3 players of all time
and probably the best
with GAMBIT in 2021:
Masters Berlin: 1.26 rating (top 2 tied up with nAts), Top asister and 3rd in Kills
Finals MVP with 1.45 rating and a +28 playing Sova, Viper and Brim averaging almost a kill per round (0.99)
Champions: 1.19 (best rated semifinalist, Top 4 of the tournament tied up with yay and leaf), Top fragger of the tournament
M3C 2022 (they were playing in horrible conditions, we should agree that wasn't a way to compare him)
FNC 2023:
Lock-In: probably not a great performance, but stills good 1.10 rating being the 3rd best player in FNC and 5th between the finalist, worst FNC player in the final
League: 1.19 rating (Top 4 of the tournament just behind Alfa, Sayf and Leo)
Masters Tokyo: 1.19 rating (Top 3 of the tournament just behind Alfa and Leo), a normal final with a simple +1 and 1.01 rating
Champs: until this day was probably his worst international performance with a 0.94 rating
FNC 2024:
Stage 1: 1.08 rating not a huge performance but pretty good
Shanghai: not oficial rating, but a 172.5 acs very low but understandable (one of the worst FNC performances ever)
Stage 2: 1.22 (TOP RATED PLAYER tied up with Grubinho who wasnt even in the playoffs)
Champs: 1.21 (Top 4 of the tournament behind primmie, Derke and trexx) (Top 2 of only playoffs players)
FNC 2025:
Stage 1: 1.06 rating, good not a lot but good, 1.13 in playoffs (top 5 tied up with Alfa)
Toronto: 1.13 rating (TOP 8 tied up with whzy)
Stage 2: 1.02 rating, pretty ok, 1.22 in playoffs (TOP 2 just behind Ruxic)
Champs (so far): 1.16 rating (TOP 5 tied up with kaajak)
this guy has been the most consistent player of all time
this is the list of players with the most top 10 performances in international events (not counting Shanghai):
Chronicle: 5
yay: 5
MaKo: 5
if the list of this champs goes on as it is today it will be:
Chronicle: 6
yay: 5
MaKo: 5
aspas: 5
also crazy thinking this were his played agents in those 6 performances:
Champs 2025: Viper, Vyse, Breach (so far)
Toronto 2025: Cypher, Viper, Sage, Killjoy, Vyse
Champs 2024: Sova, Viper
Tokyo 2023: Breach, Viper
Champs 2021: Sova, Killjoy, Brimstone, Skye
Berlin 2021: Sova, Viper, Brimstone
4 different years, 9 different agents, 3 different champions, 6 different tournaments
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT TITLES
this guy is not just the only player to have 3 titles
is also the only player to ever play 5 Grand Finals
he has 5 International Grand Finals and only 3 International performances without a Grand Final (Champs 2023, Shaghai 2024, Champs 2024)
has never been grouped in a league qualifier for international events (Reykjavik 2021 and 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Champs 2022, Madrid 2024 he was 1 match away from all 5 tournaments)
his worst was this years KickOff being 2 matches away and technically the Stage 2 being 3 matches away, stills never been out of playoffs
he has also 2 Regional titles with Gambit (Masters and Challengers) and so far 3 more with FNC (VCT EMEA LEAGUE)
CHRONICLE is not a title merchant, not a team winner only
is the most consistent player of all time who's only year without a top 10 international performance, was not even his fault
this guy is the flex GOAT and is in the conversation to be the GOAT
(just to clear, i think this conversation is between Alfa, Chron and Aspas) (Leo and Yay deserve a top 5 for what they did in their years) (f0rsakeN also could enter in the conversation, for me he is 6th)
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