Is this the guy the truth or the team has to many superstars?

It’s sickening how every team he’s joined seems to fall apart except for T1

Because their strats are from ranked

People are saying that BBL is going to be 2nd place some shit

BBL was the number 1 seed and they went 6th place

AG is the best looking Chinese team out of the region that was sent out from China

I guess so since M8 got a weaker bracket and G2 got through by beating XLG and T1 even though they were decent teams so sure I can agree with that

Brother NS is already top 3 they can't be lower than that

NRG avoids G2 the entire tourney and they go top 3

Region rivalries are part of what makes esports fun. Everyone talks trash, everyone wants to win. But when the game ends, both sides should still respect the players who showed up and gave it their all. That’s how you build cool storylines along the way and make the scene more exciting for everyone.

We will see in this match NRG v PRX

That just means Pacific --> Americas

I can see that

The team being built around Marteen doesn’t take away from how good he is. Plenty of teams build around their star player, but not everyone can consistently deliver the way he does.

Marteen played great, but I feel like Gentle Mates underperformed overall.

Starxo is the IGL so it's understandable, but he was actually cooking. Minny didn’t play well, and Glyph also didn’t perform like he usually does even though he’s normally one of their most consistent players.

Also, Bipo went negative every game and his FK/FD was terrible. I understand taking space but it shows that he struggles to trade or take fights properly when he’s dying first every round.

The Yoru meta definitely doesn’t help them, but that’s not the only issue. China’s biggest problem right now is the teamplay on a micro level. When the meta had double initiators, they could rely on extra utility to cover mistakes or bad mid-round calls. Now with agents like Yoru coming into the play, the game demands more teamwork and that's where they struggle the most.

It also points to bigger issues with IGLing and coaching. If your system isn’t strong, a meta that requires more structured teamwork will expose it immediately.

So it’s less about the meta itself and more that the current meta removes whatever they are relying on which was individuals duels.

These teams in China are depressing to watch. The viewership there is massive, so it makes sense financially that they don’t want to remove any regional slots.

But these teams can’t even win a single map. I know they’re miles behind in terms of Valorant, but do they not VOD review or something? I’m confused about how they fell off this hard after Champs 2025.

Why are you guys saying “Fix FURIA" when this was their first international with several rookies? This team actually looks promising. If anything, they played okay and definitely weren’t the worst compared to some teams from the Chinese region.

You’re also talking about replacing alym even though he was picked up recently. That makes no sense. I understand he’s been a bit shaky, but it looks like he’s trying to create space for the team instead of chasing kills. He isn’t playing selfishly, and I respect that kind of gameplay. He just needs more time.

From what I’m seeing, nerve also looks like he’s handling a lot of the mid-round calling. He isn’t doing a bad job—he’s just not performing individually right now. But again, this is their first international event.

There’s really no reason to start talking about upgrades yet. These players are probably nervous, especially since they didn’t go through the Swiss stage and had to face teams like BBL and PRX. Instead of immediately trying to “fix” the roster, people should recognize that FURIA just made their first Masters appearance and actually had a decent showing as a team.

Bro forgot MIBR

Not surprising at all onto the next match

I got 1 prediction I knew it

Brother Furia beat G2

65% in Furia favor koolanoob is an actual beast with OP on this map

NS vs Gentle Mates
I’m not sure who will win this one, but I’m leaning slightly toward NS. It’s really close. They’ve got arguably the best Neon in the world and Marteen, who is currently the best Yoru player. I think Marteen will have a great tournament and pull off some crazy plays with teammates who can actually support his style "Cough, KC". At the same time, Dambi has a stacked roster around him as well. Both teams actually have something going for them. I like both Dambi and Marteen, but I’ll say NS 2–1 Gentle Mates.

All Gamers vs G2
The only team that looks weak to me is All Gamers. China only has one team that made it through, and they didn’t have to play through the Swiss Stage. On top of that, they picked G2, which is rough. Their choice was either Gentle Mates or G2, and NS pick Gentle Mates first. I think overall they got fked. G2 2–0 All Gamers

FURIA vs PRX
This might look like an easy match, but it’s not that simple. FURIA beat G2, and PRX demolished G2 just a day ago. Still, PRX have way more experience, while FURIA lack experience at the international level. I’ll go with PRX 2–1 FURIA.

BBL vs NRG
BBL have one of the strangest playstyles I’ve ever seen — it looks completely ranked, but somehow it works. It makes sense in a way since they came up through Premier and won all the way through Tier 2, which is insane. Now they’re facing NRG, who looked much more better than other teams. It’s hard to call, but I trust BBL to pull out something weird again. BBL 2–1 NRG.

Let me start off by saying nAts is a good IGL, but in groups it feels like something doesn’t click especially against other regions. Even dropping a series to Gentle Mates shows something’s off in those international matchups.

Wayne coming in as a Pacific import has been super consistent and clutching important rounds. Purp0 is actually shooting back and showing real promise.

I also think Kamo should be on the OP more instead of Miniboo he looks comfortable on it, so it’s confusing why they don’t lean into that. Miniboo has always been super inconsistent he has insane peaks but also very big stinkers, and this felt like one of those stinker games.

Overall, picking up Wayne and Purp0 who hadn’t been to internationals before and adding Miniboo after his time on Team Heretics shows this roster still has firepower and potential. It just feels like no matter what, they end up stuck in groups. Another frustrating showing from Team Liquid.

So G2/NRG are better than PRX nice logic

Calling them “shit” is wild. If Miniboo’s Neon rush was that easy to counter, teams would’ve figure it out at Kickoff instead they went on a 5-match streak, beating teams like Team Vitality and Fnatic.

nAts is mid-round calling while anchoring, and Miniboo is doing his job as the entry. That’s a balanced structure.

You can question the IGL if you want, but saying they have zero structure just sounds salty. And if you think they’re not a good team, I guess you haven’t been watching China that hasn't won a single match or map.

NRG 2 - 1 TL

Babybay’s standout agents have always been Chamber and Yoru, so it’s puzzling why G2 moved him away from them.

Sure, he can play Waylay decently and is capable with rifles, but his real strength lies in being an OP merchant that’s where he creates the most impact for his team.

I wonder if the decision to move him off his best agents is because Jawgemo wants to play entry and create space for the team, rather than focusing on his own stats.

It makes sense strategically, since they want Babybay as a second entry, but it still feels like they’re not fully leveraging his skills.

Scrims aren’t the same as LAN. Playing online with no crowd, no stage pressure, and no real stakes is completely different from performing on stage against international teams. A team can look average in scrims and then level up on LAN when it actually matters.

Security in the league doesn’t remove competitive risk. You can be partnered and still fall behind internationally. A rebuild only works if you’re 100% sure the core ceiling is capped and I’m not convinced EDG has hit that yet.

A full rebuild is risky. EDG’s core has proven they can place internationally. The problem doesn’t look like talent it looks like role clarity and leadership. Fix the system before you scrap the roster.

I’m really not liking the direction EDG is going. The mid-round calling has clearly dropped, and the team looks disconnected after S1mon left.

During Bangkok, when Chichoo stepped up as IGL and S1mon or nobody were involved in mid-round calling, they looked much more structured and finished top 3. Right now, I think the issues are clearly internal within EDG’s core — Chichoo, Kangkang, Smoggy, and nobody.

If they want to compete at the highest level again, they either need S1mon back or an import to fix whatever they have going on.

I really want this team to succeed, but without fixing the leadership and internal coordination it’s going to be hard for them to reach their full potential.

Bro S1mon set him up and no one in this core has set up anything for him it's obvious why they relied on him more than ever

So after they removed S1mon they literally can't perform it's the fact they don't have a support player or someone to set them up I am also guessing that S1mon was also doing the midcalling because what are these rounds from EDG it looks absolutely terrible but what do you think " S1mon back or importing a player ? "

This really isn't surprising after the fact that they remove S1mon after Masters Bangkok that the team is literally struggling to even do anything to get a decent placement in internationals and barely scraping by to win in China

I mean I am voicing my opinion that I like PRX more than RRQ but generally PRX play terrible today compared to how they play before
but APAC looks like a chaotic mess atm because half of the things I am watching is like Ranked Valorant

I am in the middle so I don't side with each team I just want to see who can play good valorant and PRX did not play good valorant today

My opinions on these teams that lost yesterday/today

NRG lost to MIBR once they switch to double duelist both teams are just good and should make to Masters Santiago

G2 lost JonahP to add Babybay and they lost against Furia which they never lost to until now

FS has Primmie that went +41 against DRX and straight up crumbled against NS

Prx should've won this game imo but I mean props to RRQ for doing their Homework

Yes this actually works but you know Kaplan doesn't like JohnQT being on Sentinel for some odd reason and rather have Cortezia smokes/Sentinel or rather have babysit N4rrate and pray he gets good at Duelist which we know that is 10% of that happening

Bro Demon1 plays Perma Jett or Perma Chamber is much better than whatever I am seeing

Bro where is the Olympics performance coach it's not showing in this game or last game

Cortezia is simply a downgrade version of Zellsis but in terms of firepower he is better "you take out midrounding and what is this team"

If your confidence needs a cheerleader, you’re not a pro, you’re a performer

and yes the biggest fraud is Kaplan

I be bluntly honest that this is partially Kaplan fault that makes Sen look bad it's due to the fault that there are no hype or vibes guy on the team and keeping N4rrate on the Duelist role

They should hire a Performance Coach to keep the mental stable since this team mental is somewhere else and not thinking about the present

As a couple of reasons why they are not performing is because of Kyu IGLing role and JohnQt midrounding even though it is not working out "I don't know if JohnQt flamed Kyu calling or someone else"

You also lost some people that would crush this team Zekken, Zellsis due to the fact that they lost them they simply got a downgraded version of them

N4rrate mental is literally somewhere else and not thinking about this game I don't know why he is trying play super entry when that shouldn't be his role at all

You can tell that Kaplan didn't do any research at all against these other teams it's so plainly obvious that he is a pay stealer currently and if you don't look good against mid-low tier teams something is wrong with the Coach or IGL

just saying icy > N4rrate duelist role

You do realized that he is hella baiting right now in the past couple of games when that is very concerning for this team

Pretty sure JohnQt was better consistently but we all know the Order to that team Zekken, JohnQt, Bang, N4rrate, Zellsis that's the order I would put them last year

Get off Duelist he looks so uncomfortable on Waylay

I actually like how this guy can IGL and still keep up with the team in terms of firepower also the fact that Patmen and Xavi play on a team together this duo can be deadly

I didn't think FrosT actually had something cooking up but he deliver that PRX is beatable by a mile on Split which they also pick

also you have to remember that UdoTan was basically the carry of this team and that ban was actually team fixing matches to make money off this shit team

Now that UdoTan is not duelist it's make it easier for him to take a sit back and just play Veto probably FrosT idea to have this guy on perma Veto I think it is a good agent to avoid Fade Ulti and molly I am actually amazed on how good he is on it

Xavi has been also Perma Astra player that has been IGLing but he makes some mistakes like that huge one on Bind when I was so confused that I thought it was PRX I think Xavi will slam himself across the room when he sees that ult again

Autumn is literally greedy on some of these kills and he is literally throwing rounds on some of them on other than that I think he did ok

Kr1stal this guy is okay but his ulti on Fade isn't bad he is just getting diff by Invy in this match

Patmen probably the star player on this team if you look at it overall

They should beat Zeta but if not then yeah this team is shit but I have hope for this team

So basically in a podcast with Crws and FrosT together said that Primmie wanted to play whatever agent he wanted to play

it's not even the coaches fault since he still play pretty well

top 7 in last stages so I don't blame the coaches

Primmie actually dominated despite him being on "DEADLOCK"