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Keep heat and basic, and maybe adverso
-Urango, -Tuyz, -Palla
+PxS
+dgzin
+If there is a player better than adverso

I could still see this team only being mid but it has to be better than what it is currently

Edit: Okay after thinking and some comments I have come to realize that the only fix is to just nuke the org and act like it was never in VCT in the first place.

I mean I think at this point Furia is a lost cause and at this point people should just not even consider them a Tier 1 team.

2G deserves criticism for how they played against G2 and before spike came but at least you can see them upsetting a team and maybe winning a game or two.

Also knowing the only win in the entire season being a substitute tier 2 NA team would really take a toll mentally

I just realized kiNgg and Babybay kind of look similar

Just sign the YFP core because at least they won a game for you

0/8

Damn I didn't read that post right at all, you really got everyone in this thread unless you edited it

He's going to co-stream with the other washed players like FNS, Shanks and Demon1

I don't think Loud is letting go of lukxo or virtyy

I mean Zellsis's breach has to be one of the best though so I don't think its that bad

I was defending them because they were missing basic and their coach, but man if this is the best they can do even without basic then I don't think I can defend them ever again.

I have a feeling you are going to be very disappointed with the result but I guess if you win the bet you'll get to say told you so

This is like if FNC with a sub faced Apeks on Ascent and Haven

I mean after that KC APEKS game and TH M8's game an EMEA fan can't be saying this

I don't know about NRG, also Kru will make, they always make it

There are a lot of them lenne, barce and dispenser, and man there are so many more, especially in the early days of APAC

TH vo0kashu is suddenly looking very good after the recent benjy performance, but I fear TH is going to hold onto benjy for a while.

I feel pm from KC or goked could be in this discussion

He literally played waylay on haven the other day

I feel like if they just pick up a performance coach it would help a lot with their mental which has been an obvious weakness this entire year. Its pretty weird that an org like Sen doesn't have a performance coach when the majority of other good teams do have one. It almost feels like when Sen refused to pick up an actual head coach and just relied on shahzam until it didn't work.

While I'd say he's not on the list, I think mCe at least deserves a nod with how good his strats and anti-strats have been throughout his coaching tenure.

Its either going to unironically go great or be a mistake as big as scream IGL

Its always against a brazilian team too.

13-1

Same good team btw

https://www.vlr.gg/490309/team-heretics-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2025-masters-toronto-r1

Someone has got to tell them to either grow proper facial hair or just shave, the neck beards, and patchy mustaches/beards do not look good.

TH are always slow starters and M8's are always one map wonders so lets not jump to conclusions about this game yet. That said I am still hate watching TH.

0/8

People were saying he would be an upgrade to koalanoob and yet so far he's been a huge disappointment, especially with all the other rookies who have been popping off.

Sen's attack looked the best out of the teams I've watched but their defense could use a little work

I think even solo reyna or iso would be better

I am because I have n4rrate on my VFL team and he's been shooting recently

NRG, they are just asking you too at this point

DRG still has to be better on Corrode than whatever this sunset is

Why would you ban Corrode and let Sunset through? Your attack side already looked rough against AG, you really think you'd be better on it against FPX?

I mean the problem was that Verno was basically already guaranteed to go to NRG no matter what because bonkar was there. Also Zellsis has still done pretty good this year, maybe even better than last year in terms of shooting.

I mean the most obvious answer would be satellite as long as Satellite continues to look good on Senti

Bring back Lakia

That wasn't even NRG that was Optic, NRG has only ever been good in 2023 and still lost to BLG two times.

Ah yes a 1-11 attack side is what we call competitive and ending 13-5 is competitive. And the same team who won that map 13-5 and who's map pick has been icebox for the last few games got 13-7'd on the map, this is peak competitiveness.

They got destroyed by BBL but BBL was destroyed by GX. Also they have 44% wr over 9 maps this year, maybe they should perma ban it.

Its Tuesday, there's not going to be as many people watching as say Friday and the weekend

I mean it was one of the biggest pick-ups of all time, not in terms of performance, but because an ascension team were taking a huge risk picking up a GC player and because that player was the best GC player and a lot of people were expecting to at least be decent.

I don't think you saw FNS go -41 against x-set and has almost never had a positive game in his career

I just noticed they threw on the same map that M8's threw against FUT, these EMEA ascension teams man.

He at least has a history of being able to frag, FNS has never been a fragger at least in valorant

Why are they allergic to winning? Like the amount of times I've seen them throw when they're up or only show up on 1 map is diabolical.

I mean until we see Furia with basic and their actual coach I don't want to judge them to hard, but if we're going off of the last two stages then Furia.

The ult ended and he died right when it ended