Damn, Gambit must be pretty bad if they can barely win against a team that is held on by nothing but by luck

Comes with age, used to be much more of a cunt when I was younger :D

Fair enough, was aware of kolda's reputation, but not lucas'. Appreciate the answer

Yeah, my neilzinho comment was based on having a seen a couple of his twitch streams. He engaged the chat pretty actively and was sort of having an interview. But at the same time you are right also, no one knows the internals, hence my question about lucas as perhaps Spanish people know things that I don't due to the language barrier

Who even supports orgs lmao, I just support specific individuals instead and as a result the org they currently belong to

Fair enough

Honestly I expected G2 to fix a lot of their flaws during July and the bootcamp that they are having right now. Neilzinho seems like knows what he is doing, but what is Lucas Rojo doing as an analyst? Is he a meme streamer entertainer or actually a substantial help to G2 valorant roster?

Care to elaborate what makes them the worst then? :D

I guess that's where the disadvantage of having Riot organise the tournament vs third-party doing it appears. Riot can keep offering shitty tournament bracket sand get away with it, because they don't have compete with other TOs.

go send some death threats to him

I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell that yet

Or this honestly

So seeding is kind of useless again?

nvm, looks like seeding is yuuuuge

Riot should just merge other standalone regions, particularly BR with LATAM, KR and JP and SEA, include Mexico into NA, to basically have more equivalents of EMEA. Intra-local-regional games before going interational adds spice and rivalry that might not necessarily exist during Champions or Masters. Also gives bigger exposure to local teams who will not qualify internationally, but can qualify for intra-local-regional competition.

If Liquid wanted to put themselves in the same position G2 put themselves at, then they perhaps should have considered not bombing out of EU Challengers#1 along with Fnatic. Regardless of that, at EMEA itself they then decided to lose against NaVi to jeopardise their chances of qualifying even more. So many chances, yet just simply not enough due to their lack of consistency.

I don't think they have a lot of time to prepare to create specific counter plays against Gambit, think G2 will have to resort to comfort picks.

At least against Giants it looks like they had aspects of their strategy that were specifically countering DavidP.

Yeah, FPX roster being dropped by the Chinese would be pretty nice to be honest.

Ange1 could become a coach, or an IGL for upcoming CIS aim stars.
Shao in NaVi sounds quite juicy.

Next time is NaVi or wherever 7ssk7 plays ))

sheesh, now that I think about it, imagine the explosion in Valorant's popularity when Riot is officially going to include India into the next VCT circuit and officially release the game in China(and possibly include them too for 2022 VCT circuit)

Imagine India vs China matches, considering the political competition you guys have between each other. Gonna be insane.

sps batka ))

For me it's not G2, but rather Lithuanian players. nukkye is the last Lithuanian player remaining and since other teams with Lithuanians failed to qualify, there is very little reason for me to watch valorant.

yeah, I just had a bad take, guilty as charged.

If G2 lose against Giants, then I will probably have 0 interest in Valorant until 2022.

That's a fair point, I agree. I could also argue that the mindset drastically changes for people who approach their 30s, but for people like NBK that probably will not matter, especially when an already good example of this exists with shahzi.

So I'll just take the L here

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Because I haven't been keeping track of him or CS NA scene for that matter. I thought he was something along the lines of 23/24, but not 27, even if he played competitive CS since 2k12

Currently impossible for vlr.gg devs as Riot doesn't provide a good enough API that would allow to retrieve live results as the rounds are being played. Riot only gives an API command that allows to retrieve the match report once the map has fully finished.

That's why you are seeing only the map result counter updated as that is done manually, only after the map is finished vlr.gg is able to make an API query call that would allow to retrieve the complete information automatically.

The only possible solution to this problem is to do some image recognition from the streams, but that is very complex, error prone and probably not worth devs' time. Or Riot could just provide a better API that negates all of this immediately.

oh wow, I thought shahz was younger.

The reason why I was being ageist is that kolda is another 27 year old in the scene and honestly I sometimes see him losing aim duels purely due to degradation in his reaction time.

But shahz being 27 years old, damn... that's even more impressive. The guy is a talented IGL, coach and honestly holds his own weight down pretty well as freaking OP'er to make SEN the best team. what the hell

koldamenta

Quite a risk picking up a 27 year old tbh, even if he is a CS legend. Plus, it could well be the same situation as with CS:GO's ex-C9 Alex, he never really picked valorant up, because he probably wasn't good enough at it. The same thing could also be applicable to Nivera. No one really knows what kind of tier these particular players would end up belonging at

oh no.

sure yeah, but that has got nothing to do with the current comment chain

Liquid can still qualify for champions through LCQ if they are that good

eh, I expected G2 to improve a lot more considering the had an entire July to do so. Their current level of play looks identical to how they played in Challengers 1 when they qualified, which at the moment is simply not good enough for SMB, Acend and Gambit too.

This page is pretty useful for this question: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/EMEA

None of that matters because we all probably are great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grear great great great great great great great great great great great great grand children of genghis khan

Worst case scenario, after tomorrow there will at least be a single head to head score. Knowing f4u, they will probably use that single head to head score to break the tie anyway :D

brilliant, thanks

Liquid and Fnatic did not qualify for Berlin.

What Acend, SMB, Gambit and G2/VGIA(both are in the same position regardless) need to achieve at Berlin LAN to make sure that both Fnatic and Liquid are forced to play in LCQ?

DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND ALL THAT

EU Champions circuit points standings thanks you Gambit

ok gambit got this

D3FFOOOOO BLYAT mldc

Please Gambit, don't let Liquid get a guaranteed slot for Champions :S

Time for OT fiesta

12-11 TO LIQUID LMAO

BRINGING THIS THREAD BACK TO LIFE AS THE SCORE IS 11-11

LMAO

Checked his twitter to find an image of his desktop box: https://twitter.com/H1berr/status/1424399347618287623/photo/1

Lack of RGB is definitely a sign of poor FPS in valulrant.

For real tho, that case looks like as if he bought the pc in late 2000s, but maybe it looks that way cuz it's white, rather than black.

Honestly though, it's amazing that he is managing to become a pro playing with such crappy equipment. Definitely kicks my delusion that I had as a teenager that I could have easily gone pro if only I had a sick gaming pc with 240hz monitor.

decent, a good choice for career prospects as well. Congrats

G2 got team diffed pretty hard, simple as that. Whatever SMB were doing, G2 had no counter whatsoever as if they hadn't properly prepared. Everybody might think that SMB won by aim alone, but it was their util usage and the set plays that didn't even give G2 players an opportunity to shoot back. Also it seems that SMB didn't do any major mistakes in the game that would have given G2 a chance, it was a near perfect if not perfect game from SMB players.

Hopefully it was one of those wet towel slaps across the face for G2 that is supposed to make the team much better, otherwise EMEA's only hopes in Berlin are either Acend or SMB.

You raise fair points. To elaborate my thinking further, I don't think it's valorant that is going to be the nail in CS:GO's coffin(assuming Valve continues to do nothing about emerging competition in team based FPS), instead it will be CoD4 promod clone called ProMod(that is currently being developed by devs of Batallion 1944). The combo of ProMod and Valorant will be the hammer and the nail in CS:GO's impeding death(again, assuming that Valve does not release a new version of Counter Strike or leaves it be without a major revamp).

A lot of CS:GO people find Valorant's abilities to be unfair, but ProMod is literally CS:GO with the only addition of aim down the sight mechanic and a bit different style of movement. That game if successfully developed by batallion 1944 devs will be a much more direct competitor of CS:GO than valorant currently is.