I mean if you just learned about a region getting away with something that's basically breaking the rules then I think anyone would have the same reaction and it's not hating would you not? Just imagine if this was how BR teams were treated in Americas you think the reaction would be anything different?

Flashback is not a criminal it's proven that he is innocent, however your point is Riot knew about this and let DRX handle it and he was not suspended while the investigation went on. However with Sinatraa he was immediately suspended after the claims came out and then riot forced themselves onto the case.

Lowk probably made more mid teams but take a gander

GX

• Cloud (IGL + initiator)
• Purp0 (Secondary duelist + smokes)
• Sheydos (Initiator)
• Vo0kashu (Sentinel)
• d3ffo (Duelist)

APK

• Elllement (Duelist)
• Brave (Smokes)
• Wolfen (Sentinel)
• Zeek (IGL + Initiator, he might be back)
• Trexx (Initiator)

KOI (lowk unsavable but I will try)

• Jas (Duelist)
• Obnoks (Smokes)
• Hoody (IGL + Initiator)
• UNFAKE (Initiator)
• Shondex (Sentinel)

GX
Cloud (IGL + initiator), Purp0 (Secondary duelist + smokes), Sheydos (Initiator), Vo0kashu (Sentinel), d3ffo (Duelist)

Yeah and Shanks beat Prime OPTIC too, what does that mean for Guild?

Btw your ranking is based off of success and not performance, just wanted to let you know that because I know your brain can't process too much info.

Also EMEA was objectively a stronger region in 2021-2022 than Japan, so dont compare ZETA regional results to EMEA.

I am comparing ZETA in 2023? bro please learn how to read atp I'm convinced that most of the stuff you say isn't even rage bait but just you being a dumbass

You do realize that I'm not talking about the EU FPX which is why I had to specify (for people like you) that it was the Chinese team?

FPX (China)

Here look at it again just because you might be blind

Also FPX lost to the two grand finalists at Shanghai so your logic about Guild would also apply to them too.

Yep, let's just quote a random line anddddd say 0/8, that'll get them!!

This might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard

You might be the most braindead and biased person ever lmao, being "competitive" in EU is miles off of success in the actual game. By your logic ZETA was also competitive in 2023, getting 5th-6th in the league and then being top 4 by the end of the year and qualifying to champs.

also you must be baiting cuz you should know that GUILD is considered the 3rd best team of Copenhagen

Once again we are talking about SUCCESS and not PERFORMANCE, for someone who literally typed out this prompt I would think you would know what you're trying to argue about. Not hypotheticals made by coping EMEA fans.

only lost to FPX and PRX at Copenhagen

Then how come FPX (China) isn't higher on this list? Or why isn't trace on this list either if we're going to consider "losing to the finalists"

And how is 2023 Americas League included in tokyo??? lmao you make absolutely ZERO SENSE LOLLLLL. Atp you're gonna make the argument that america leauge is included in champs too because they qualified off of that.

Stop glazing Masters 1 EU, it wasn't even a LAN it was a regional battle lmao winning stop saying that shit it's the same as 100T fans glazing first strike.

Also if you wanna get THAT technical
2023 AMER league 3rd place >>> top 4 EU in stage 2 2022
2nd Tokyo >>>>>>>>> 5th-8th Berlin
1st at champs 2023 >= 1st at champs 2021 (since we are talking about success)

It's funny because bro didn't even try when it came to typing out EG's success in 2023

Also please let me know how ZETA is below guild? ZETA made 4 times the amount of LANs that Guild did and placed top 3 while Guild bombed out of playoffs?

Yeah and how do they win? because of your bias? lmao you gave zero valid points on how acend is more successful than EG except straight up glaze

The way that you're undermining EG's Tokyo and Champs success and glazing Acend is ACTUALLY CRAZY LMAOO. You make it seem like Acend's 5th-8th place success is anything good compared to EG's Tokyo success.

ACEND had a good performance in Stage 2 2022

Now you're just contradicting yourself when you yourself said "all time success" and not "performance" LMAOOOO

Nice edit lmao

This list is so EMEA biased lmao, FPX at 6 when they won trophy, got 2 4th places, and then fell off the hardest out of any team? And don't even get me started on acend at 10, made 2 LANs and then was never seen again lmao.

GMB, GENG, arguably PRX and EG are all over them lmao.

cyro the better aimer but can't play raze if his life depended on it so just zekken over him

1. 6fingers (debatable but took BOOM who was a mid team and turned them into one of the best + dos9 scouting was godly)
2. Termi
3. Solo (adding suggest to the roster is the only reason he isn't over termi)
4. Ewok
5. Autumn (just based off what people said of him before + the meteor stuff not to clear but its t1)
6. SilKanoN
7. Frost (somehow keke man moved up after finally getting full thai roster, but lowk would be better if the coaches were thai too)
8. XQQ
9. Alecks (please just remove j0ngg bro)
10. DFM coaches (don't know which one is main)
11. Meow (TS keke)
12. Juv3nile (yall know why)

Americas would lowk be hella scary if MIBR, G2, KRU, and C9 (if they keep this form up), keep the same roster alongside this SEN roster. If s0m goes to SEN then I imagine FNS becomes a content creator too would be perfect.

Yes and no ig, yes in the terms that it was map 5 and they were on the verge of a reverse comeback and down 11-3 and they cameback against the home crowd. But then again if you look at the game it was mostly just LOUD selling and aspas falling asleep (like the alfa clutch was really just luck that both of them decided to peek and line up there, like if aspas goes faster then there's a more likely chance alfa dies).

When was I suggesting anything?? I just said if they nerfed them it would ruin executes and retakes and as someone else said fakes too.

And people weren't glazing sato and hating on victor?

You do realize that basically half the smokes in this game are from a refresh timer? or the fact that teams will literally just sit out main waiting for a breach stun or tejo salvos to recharge before hitting a site?

EDG losing in group stage ain't even something special atp but yeah nova looking good probably can do some damage if they don't get nervous

Not really bao just looked really lost on holding sites and lurking too and then the rest of the team went triple 7s

everyone blaming victor while sato bottom fragged and went 6/14 in fk/fd 😔😔 alongside bao going -13

reactionary andys out here

chet fucking sold that team comp tho map 3 what was that

No because if they nerf it a lot when you do a site execute or retake and it doesn't work then you don't have util anymore so you just save

Minipoo is lowk locking in this year he might get his miniboo status back

For Chinese players gotta be Biank, took two different Chinese teams to playoffs in champs

Yeah I know I'm talking about chet

Or just drop j0ngg and s0mething and get vera and let patmen flex duelist and initiator

bro mixed up bao and victor 💔💔

Weren't you guys feining at flor going positive against boomer1 and n0vi?

There's at least 2 sneaks on this list but I can't figure out who

Meteor
Chichoo
Karon
Oxy
Cortezia

Casual playerbase is already in shambles, t2 scene is getting worse by the day, viewership isn't growing as much as it did the previous years. And yes the competitive scene does have a major impact on valorant, the only reason why one of the biggest viewer regions (Japan) is even interested in the game is because of ZETA's 2022 Iceland run and China's interest in the game with EDG's 2023 run alongside BLG's champs run too.

Argentina org having no Argentina players 💔💔

benjy? have you seen his stats? nAts lowk might be up there and chronicle ain't even a sentinel main

No that's just any region if you insult their teams and rage bait them

SEN vs 100T ahh match history

It's 100% not her fault you can't control diseases so the poster is just high on something but yeah he was probably in a lot of stress because of what was happening which made him play the game less and made him worse but no blame to his gf.

I never even stated that a region having one good team means the rest of the region is good, for EMEA I literally said that they all aren't doing good and their good team isn't even looking good anymore. And for China I literally said that the reason they are 3rd is because the rest of the teams are looking hella good now. Don't know where you pulled that argument out of tho.

Legit what you EMEA fans were saying about VIT and EMEA during Bangkok but it's all good. Also that just goes to show you don't even know about the improvement Chinese teams have been making

Your comment is even more biased as hell lmao I'm not even biased towards Americas either so your point is just wrong. There's no shot that you can make an argument that MIBR, G2, or C9 wouldn't beat your best teams like VIT or FNC, oh wait G2 already did, https://www.vlr.gg/449009/team-vitality-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-ubsf

Still don't get your "Chinese team not named edg" argument when you can literally watch the streams of the other Chinese teams as they have gotten way better and look better than most of the middle pack of EMEA

Trace also played against the 2 grand finalists and top 2 in the world right now and TL only beat SEN who was throwing that tourney.

Also would you really say with a straight face that EMEA doesn't have the most bottom feeding teams of any region?

Just talking about currently and how they would do at a LAN, EMEA is so broken rn its lowk crazy like if they stayed the same I doubt anyone would rank them to be in the grand finals at Toronto or even make it out of swiss.

1. Americas (pretty self-explanatory, g2, MIBR, c9 somehow, and kru, (SEN too if they lock in) all look hella good and could do a lot of damage in a LAN. Only really has F0ria and sometimes LEV holding them down (LOUD is alright but they just love throwing lmao).
2. Pacific (Championship level teams, t1, DRX when they don't throw, BOOM somehow is locking tf in, also has NS, GENG, RRQ, Talon sometimes. Americas is only over them because they have pooperex, DFM, GE, and ZETA.)
3. China (Has EDG. Rest of the teams are catching up too and doing good, BLG, XLG, NOVA, Wolves, DRG, Trace if they stop selling. Lower than the rest just because the level of skill hasn't caught all the way up and then there's Tyloo and all gluers.)
4. EMEA (Right now EMEA just horrible, "championship level team" getting diffed by Boaster and crashies, TH throwing maps once again (but at least they win), TL somehow got worse. FNC looking okay again tho but what can you really do at a LAN if boaster doesn't have a life game again. And then you have the bottom feeder teams like k0i, ap0ks, n0vi, gi0ntX, and KC if they don't lock in.)

Your championship level team just got beat by a team that consists of boaster and crashies lmao, TH got fucking dogged on by lulquid, lulquid then got fucking dogged on by m8, you have k0i, ap0ks, n0vi (hasn't won a game in over 9 months before the ap0ks game), gi0ntx, and so many more. You're region consists of "championship level teams" not even being able to beat regional mid teams anymore and shit ass low level teams that most chinese teams could probably beat.

You have crashies (wasn't even good in Americas and was one of the worst players on NRG AND is second calling on FNC), koalanoob (lost ascension TWICE), and flore (GC Americas player), in the top 15 ACS wise in your region really shows a lot about the level of skill you guys have. Alongside that, BOASTER OUT OF ALL PEOPLE IS RANKED IN THE TOP 10 IN YOUR SHIT ASS REGION THE SAME GUY WHO BARELY WENT POSITIVE EVERY YEAR PRIOR LOLLLL.

Remind me when's the last time you guys won a trophy?

https://www.vlr.gg/378829/edward-gaming-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-gf

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also who got fully eliminated first at bangkok?