Everyone calls Cryo mid/baiter so he can't be overrated and xset is lowk underrated, they were decent but no one talks about them when mentioning 2022 anymore.
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Everyone calls Cryo mid/baiter so he can't be overrated and xset is lowk underrated, they were decent but no one talks about them when mentioning 2022 anymore.
I mean considering the limited time they had + new language he wasn't the worst
China already has 5 world champions, I don't think I could even name 5 true Indian or viet players. Not trying to shame any region js saying that the skill gap is massive between the two
Great caller + fragger and lets kr1stal frag again
Aspas wasn't LOUD's star player back in 2022 and even then Derke has a lot less rounds played compared to aspas which directly inflates his stats.
The game is a lot faster, and having an IGL / multiple voices who are leading the team each round from start to finish is much more important.
I don't exactly agree with the multiple voices part, the main reason neT was dropped from G2/TGRD was because they didn't need multiple voices on the team and they got much better afterwards.
Miniboo abused neon more than kk did lol, matter of fact kk wasn't even in the top 5 of neon stats so idk why people keep saying EDG only won cuz of neon
Why don't they js merge, PCF has no funds + roster and EF has no spot
Your flair is struggling against tier 2/3 teams lol and you still rank them high
Stopped looking after 100T first
Talking about some "life game" like chichoo wasn't cooking them too
So have you ever been allowed to play for a tier 1 team? I didn't think so lol. Literally proves that you are hypocritical to the players you like lmao. Have no shame in insulting others but when your beloved GC player gets insulted you must come in to defend them!
China isn't the only thing? I mean you recently criticized HoneyBunny and no matter how bad he is he will still be more successful than you in playing for a tier 1 team lol. Don't see you having any problems with criticizing him too. Sorry for calling you out for being hypocritical bro
"so much impact" and this is the same year when the "C0M IS STILL FLANKING?????" meme came from, let's stop baiting.
This surely has to be bait lmao he wasn't even in the top 25 at champs
Saying this when you have no problem criticizing others is crazy lol
cum 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 we cannot be serious thinking he was even relatively good in 24
You gotta watch out man the GC fans gon come after you
"Massive impact" when bro had prime nAts and Leo on his team lmao, superteam merchant that can't do anything without the best players in the world.
Same flair who thinks Chronicle is the GOAT solely for trophies but he has never been the best player on his team when winning.
I mean against the other 0-3 team when they were already eliminated and no one really cared in that game is a very nice win!
Offensive? I don't think calling someone stubborn is offensive lmfao. If you aren't going to change what you think due to your own opinions that aren't even fully backed by evidence then that makes you unbearable to debate with lol, and that makes you stubborn.
FS also couldn't qualify... matter of fact they didn't win a single game...
I don't think anyone can argue against someone who is as stubborn as you lmao, your only argument is that you "watch him more than me" and that I "don't understand thai", you do realize that these are not factors that are going to make or break this debate lmfao.
since Riot is giving power to the orgs, not the players
This is just wrong lmfao the well known requirement is that they needed to maintain the players
"You might go coachless [frost] or you might not be able to coach for a whole year, so you need to figure out what to do quickly. And I [frost] did."
So if Talon stayed together and crws was telling frost that he might go coachless the next year, are Talon just not going to have a coach or is that because crws is going to transition to that coach? let's use our brains here.
Where is your source that he didn't want to go coach?
He literally said he was going to retire this year to go coach... 0/8
Why would EG get an academy team that is better than their current team lol
No one piece fan is saying to watch the entire series in one sitting lol, also the dude is asking a question why you tryna spread the onepiss agenda
least amount of first engagements in terms of a duelist
Do you even know what fks calculate...? how tf can aspas get a first kill if he doesn't get the first engagement lmfao, if he was "baiting" his teammates like a lot of baiters say then he wouldn't get the first kill the enemy team would get it.
Even then getting first kills is the job of a duelist and he's one of the best to do it lol.
Most passive duelist while having the second highest fk rating at champs and stage 2?????? just say you only get your information from baiters or you are a baiter yourself lmao
So we don't think aspas was doing that already? his champs stats themselves show this lol
Idk why people hate LOUD so much, they are just playing it smart with financial stuff unlike other orgs, even then they always invest into the Brazilian talent unlike other Brazilian teams too.
When tf did we start comparing the stats of the IGL?? LMFAOOO we seriously are picking at straws atp...
Cherry picking one game out of the many that T1 played is absolutely crazy lmao, they were insane in the games before and the only reason T1 won with terrible stats is because G2 was the better team just sold in the last 2 maps.
"but when they lost it was stomps."
https://www.vlr.gg/530364/talon-vs-rex-regum-qeon-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-lf
https://www.vlr.gg/530362/talon-vs-paper-rex-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-ubf/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/508841/talon-vs-paper-rex-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-w4/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/508829/talon-vs-detonation-focusme-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-w2/?game=all&tab=overview
None of these games that they lost in were "stomps" lmfao.
Also the games that T1 lost were not stomps either and the games they won weren't always close games so we can stop baiting.
What are you saying LMFAO
Top 4 is already a good achievement so idfk what you're yapping about "omg it's only 8 teams!!" when they had to reach a grand final to even attend the event.
Also T1's players' stats aren't even bad??? so idfk what you're talking about there either, you're basically just picking at straws atp.