They took the game very close vs the top teams of the group. If they look back at their group stage they'll see they did well against both the top teams in the group so they'll still be confident. Now that they lost, they'll face a t2 team -> varrel -> zeta/ts
They looking good for making playoffs what a masterstroke by frost.
This was the best case scenario for FS
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obviously it wasnt the fucking best case scenario they couldve beaten GEN and gotten an extra champs point you melt
Losing this game gives them a higher chance of making top 4 in playoffs which means guaranteed 4 points. They just sacrificed 1 point for a better shot at 4.
no it doesnt mate what ?
they play tier 2 team either way if theyre 5th-6th and they get one less game and play a 5th-6th or tier2 team
https://ibb.co/WbZjq3K
If they won this they would have had to face first a t2 team -> t1 -> GE/DRX don't tell me that's not the tougher path
fyi the groups arent set yet
this would assume NS are qualified which they arent yet
Most likely these will be the teams and the only change relevant to them is DFM instead of varrel which doesn't change much tbh
no cuz NS are losing to RRQ and GE qual instead obviously 😊😊😊
also both VL and DFM smash Full Shit 26-0
Idk I think frost would rather play VL/DFM than NS/GE at this stage
Anyways all I wanted to say was even after a seemingly horrible group stage they are not in such a bad spot and this is pacific so who knows what's gonna happen
i know i know
RRQ and FS are gonna get destroyed
thats my headcannon so its true
in all seriousness they have the capacity to turn it around and just make champs
I'm actually being deadass lol this was good for them if I'm a FS fan I'm happy right now
it was close against zeta rrq and now gen like there was a world where they go 4-1, and honestly the global loss made sense cuz frost gets hella emotional in revenge games plus no summit prac
Yeah and they got to experiment around with roles, maps and comps, I wouldn't say they're looking favorites for champs but this is definitely a fraud 1-4 run and they've ended up on the right side of the bracket
Varrel is definitely the big game and in no way are they favourer but as I said they'll end this group stage run high on confidence who knows they could pull it off
VL are gonna beat PRX and even if they dont theyre not even gonna face FS cuz FS are losing to a tier2 team after fr0st puts primmie on miks and crws on neon
Your entitled to your opinions and I hope whatevers got you on edge today gets fixed and u get better :)
fr0st is a shitter coach i hope he retires this year
otherwise hes gonna join some random SEA team like Motiv Esports next year and bum out in open qualis
i hate to say it, but this guy has some good points. the main issue is champs points standings: with FS at 8 (9 if they won), and plenty of teams at 5-8, I don’t see FS making champs unless they get top 4. (this would require either VL, ZETA, TS, or a tier 2 team to get top 4 but not top 2, among other requirements.) so, it’s best to play for a top 4 slot.
however there are some counterarguments. a big one is that top 4 is not always enough. with the extra point, FS could outrun T1 (9+4 > 12+1+0) and maybe even NS (9+5 > 14+0+0) if things go perfectly. further, it’s better to face your opponents as the underdog; if you face T1 and knock them down, it makes it more likely you’ll beat T1 overall as opposed to meeting in the final rounds, where T1 already clinched top 4. plus as others mentioned, the standings aren’t locked (DFM and T1 switch places if VL>PRX, for instance).
in the end though, they need a huge comeback run, and i think winning for the confidence boost is more important than the specifics of where they are in the bracket.
I completely agree with you that most likely even top 4 may not cut it and they might just need top 2. It's also true that the brackets aren't decided just yet. I just wanted to say based on how things are likely to play out, making playoffs as 1-2 seed from playins is doable for them. Also I watched their press conference and they look like that game gave them a lot of confidence. They're not as terrible as the scoreline would make one believe.
UPDATE: These are the confirmed seedings for now https://ibb.co/zTRGNbwD
It's playing out pretty much how I expected AND both the worse challenger teams are also on the bottom side. It's happening guys.
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