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sage players deserve complete annihilation
there is no reason to play sage EVER
Sage closes mid entirely the same way Vyse can and her slow is guaranteed. Vyse can be broken.
The other reasons you'd want vyse on split are filled by your Viper.
its easier to break sage's wall compared to baiting vyse's
the slow sucks ass compared to the thorns
But it's guaranteed
Both suck on the map in their own right. I just think sage is slightly more valuable than vyse with the heal, rez, and guaranteed slow compared to Vyse's breakable slow and breakable flash.
If it was prenerf Vyse I'd agree with you. But I'd say they're equally Mid tier.
No reason to run either of them but If I wanted to pick one I'd go sage.
the heal sucks ass
the rez is situational
vyse's ult is much much better and the rest of her kit is better at stopping site hits when combined, better stopping power and versatility
the heal doesn't suck ass, especially with the buff recently and paired with skye.
The rez is situational, I agree. But the Specific situations where you'd want it come up a lot.
(Most times when you're down in numbers, Eco rez, bait, Getting an ult your teammate just got after their death back online for the round.)
Also the wall helps with Exec more than Vyse with the ability to wall off Newbox B, Rafters on A, Screens on A, Alley on A, all instantly without having to wait for someone to walk past it.
Not to mention being able to standing on top of the wall to punish someone breaking it.
Also more combo potential with the slow since the initiator you'd usually want is Skye rather than Fade.
how is sage even remotely close to what vyse can do.
Sage res is useless, situational, no macro impact. all u can do is revive a teammate but usually that teammate's body is where the enemy has all the space. Vyse ult on the other hand forces a whole ass team to make a decision, give up the space or fight with pistols. That is IMPACT.
Sage slows are not bad but I would still prefer the vines, with line ups they are very usable on attack and on defense, well they are much better.
Flash hard clears heal.
Also one thing you fail to mention is that sage has no passive info. vyse has wall which on attack is a really good trip and on defense it's still better than a sage wall since you can't shoot it down + you can really punish people trying to bait the wall.
As a sentinel player who has played cypher, vyse, sage and chamber on split in immortal lobbys i can say that vyse is the most fun while sage gets the most value for the team.
You never need to instawall on mid. If u hear them rush mid save ur wall for other time. This is something diamonds dont understand. While vyse gets passive info from her wall her setup on b/a is very weak as people insta pop her thorns and get 0 value from them. Meanwhile sage orb as said is guaranteed 7 secounds of delay wjere ur teammates can rotate and help
Tldr: Sage IS the best sentinel on split IN RANKED and if u dont think so ur plat and dont know how to use her glhf
im not even talking abt insta walling mid, 90% of people know you shouldn't do that
sage's wall is objectively weaker no matter the situation, you can easily break it from a safe angle while vyse forces you to either push it and risk being killed untraded or bait it and waste more time than you would've wasted if you were breaking sage's wall
in ranked, you always get value from her setup either due to the opponent's lack of coordiation from lets say a duelist fucking up the entry or the wasted time from baiting the wall + thorns being significantly higher than sage's
viper exists
raze exists
neon exists
jett exists
omen exists
fade exists
waylay exists
astra exists
cypher exists
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