Watching Eggster live now, he looks so upset.

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soraol
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Fuck envy.

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swordzera
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anything but kicking the dictator rossy and fapping

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soraol
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Envy is already garbage now, benching him won't help at all.

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rossy is the only ambitious player in the team, the rest just wants to have comfortable job security playing with their bubble of friend making money. Those player should just be in tier 2.

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The only reason rossy is on the team is bcs he is friends with stunner

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nah demon1 wants to win

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Yodu merchant

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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"let's sign a team of friends and streamers with loyal fanbases and then drop all of them"

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let’s be real, do you want your org to be shit?

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Still going to be shit with these roster changes. At least build around your core instead of keeping only the worst player

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cirruss
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what core even exists anymore? the idea of rankers in vct is dead. The two players (excluding demon1 because he was later added) who were signed to fill voids due to age are still not old enough, hell one even was banned. the original direction for rankers is dead
not to mention the fact that the two rankers players still on the team are the worst players on the team

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Krayon9239
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orgs like cloud9 eg are worst.

Envy most likely gonna drop everyone after stage 2.

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people cheered for the team for the story that bunch of radiant streamers steamrolled tier 2 and were going to play in tier 1; while cane and ion being underage was unfortunate; what is the point of ascension, if the players who struggled to reach tier 1 will be replaced by tier 1 rejects

the identity of the team is rankers, not a franchised org

and i believe teams should give tier 2 talent more time to prove themselves than recycling the same old tier 1 players

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it's because orgs like this only care about the idea of getting results, but in reality they have zero competency in knowing how to approach building an actual team that isn't just to drop the lowest performing players and hoping that whoever they gamble on will do better

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ok so u actually think eggster is good in matches

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peetherium
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I say that the org is terrible because of their team building decisions. Does that mean I think eggsterr isn't inconsistent? Fuck no with his performance so far he 100% should have his slot put into question. My point is that the whole team has been a dumpster fire ever since kickoff and it's fucking abhorrent how it's been handled even with hindsight removed

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Unfortunately caring about results is, well, a result of the entire ascension process
You make it, and if you don’t stay good, you risk getting relegated.
granted, envy is also poorly managed, which compounds the existing issue

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that's why they only care about the idea. you'd think with a league organized like this these companies would go out of their way to achieve sustainable internal systems. centralized, tight-knit management that aims at providing results that fit the investment and goals the org

in reality these companies are just constantly flinging shit at a broken toilet's pvc piping in order to fix a leak. it's a night and day difference on which orgs actually care about building up sustainable teams vs. the ones that don't and hope that they get lucky. there are a handful of orgs in every single vct league atp that can be used as examples

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i mean, of course, but hardly anything in esports is sustainable unless you have crazy financial backing

for envy in particular, their whole idea and identity was stripped from them before it was even fully fleshed out (yoru nerf, canezerra ban, age restriction in general)

now they don’t know how or what to do. they’re likely just paying min salaries now and taking advantage of the fact they’re not paying for a partnership slot

there’s no real excuse for a lot of orgs, but there is more nuance when you consider the financial backing, and any internal situations going on that we would have zero clue about

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blaming the org for a player driven problem smh

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basically what #17 said

never said that eggsterr wasn't bad, he has been quite inconsistent and uncomfortable at the stage; but i'd rather have envy letting eggsterr try and fail than giving rossy yet another chance after he has failed so many times

i mostly meant that envy handled all the transfers quite poorly, benching inspire was bad, when they needed newer players could've given another tier 2 player a chance not bums who got kicked from tier 1 teams

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How do you always manage to purposely misinterpret and miss the whole point LMAO

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The players are the ones who start these decisions. The players picked Rosey who everyone complains about the players are the ones who decided to drop eggster. The org has had a hand in some decisions but at the end of the day all the things you guys complain about the players have the final say on not the org

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i'm confused are you merging coaches into the term players

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coaches and players make these decisions but if a player says they really dont want to play with someone I highly doubt that a coach would go against them.

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2ronx
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Yeah, should've kept the ranked playstyle and signed cracked ranked duos, Smoke and Notexxd would've been a perfect fit.

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CrackedDuelist
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true, now that other teams want to sign these players; rankers should have signed them, given their entire point of existence was this

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Mid player

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b-but yodu :(

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psaf
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eggsterr definitely has a lot of room to improve, especially considering he wasn't anything more than a ranked player prior to rankers

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No personality boring team now

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mondely
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yeh envy lost their core identity as an org. gg

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Why is Poppin still there lol

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