Was mini THAT impactful?

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Everyone views Mini as the 'goat' coach but looking back-how much impact does he really have?

Everyone points to his most succesful point being his run with FNC-but how much of that was him vs boaster?
With Mini HC (2021-2023) FNC made 7/8 intls+lock in-at those he won 2 and ended 2nd once. Mini failed to beat a sentinels in 21 reykjavik that had no coach, made no top 3 at any other intl until getting 4 s tier players and boaster where he then won what is considered to be the most "mickey mouse" trophy and a masters.
Without Mini HC (2024-2025) FNC made 4/6 intls getting 2nd twice. This fnc without Mini as HC made 2 intl finals at 2 tournements where the level of play was far above anything seen in Minis tenure-with players far below the calliber of players Mini had when he won two trophies.

Now Mini also gets credit for his run with PRX-but again how much of this was Mini?
Before Mini joined PRX had already been to many intls and had been too two finals almost winning twice. Many point to Mini as the reason PRX went on their win streak to win Toronto but I could also argue that this was the time that PRX had been able to get comfterble with Patmen. Regardless Mini did get help in finally securing the trophy-but its not like he is a major part and more of something that pushed the team that could already make finals over the line.

ZETA Mini.
Just trash. Nuff said.

Overall Mini
FNC (little from him, lot from Boaster)
Reykjavik-lost a final to SEN with no coach (how you get coach diffed by no coach)
Didnt attend Berlin
Top 4 at Champs 21 in single elim format
Destroyed and grouped in Reykjavik (no Derke no win)
Top 4 at Copenhagen (shouldve lost to LEV)
6th at Champs 22 (Derke carry only goes so far)
1st Lock//IN, Tokyo (congrats 5 s-tier players won you a trophy)
4th at champs (cant even get top 3 diffed by Fr0d)

PRX
Won toronto with a team of proven final makers and 3/4 s-tier players

ZETA
Fighting vs TS for 12th place

Give him freedom give him fire give him boaster and multiple s tier players or he retires

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TheFumbler

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Flair

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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NS are undefeated and are about to make Santiago 1st seed. Minis team is fighting for 12th place rn

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TheFumbler

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Mini is not the coach. He is just an advisor, Zeta can take his advice or pass it. He does not control the team whatsoever.

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Zeta w/o Mini: Top 3 at Masters, Multiple INTL appearances, Winner of LCQs, Beat Prime PRX many times.
Zeta w/Mini: Last in Pacific.

Seen impact

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Raize1

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u could say the same for everything else that isn't mini too.

Zeta w/ Laz: Top 3 at Masters, Multiple INTL appearances, Winner of LCQs, Beat Prime PRX many times.
Zeta w/o Laz: Last in Pacific.

You can see that PRX really took his advice well and worked on the issues they had.

Zeta is just kinda there recycling SyouTa

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cook

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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what happend?

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TheFumbler

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Nothing

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sw4gman

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potential 6/8 bait since everyone loves mini

tryna draw out the fnc AND prx fans with this one too

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Pyrenix

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he succeeded in drawing me out then i read it and was like okayge bros all ifs and buts

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NRGSUPERFAN

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its too late for this hades

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he is a fraud i agree

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Finally someone with brains

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Morikoe

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Mini doesnt have a majn role in zeta his impact is so little right now if you listened to what he said in platchat(?) im not sure which

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Addammo

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all this cause Zeta cant shoot what is this site

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Prathades

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ngl I bet mini would do better with ts than zeta

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luxdotkom

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z0ta is shit regardless.

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KiwiJuice

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you can't eat in a 5 star restaurant with €20

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Reznor

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ZETA IS BOTS TIER 100 JUST DISBAND BRO NONE COACH CAN SAVE THESE FRAUDS

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guy is one month into being a coaching advisor for one of the worst teams out there and we starting to discredit one of the most succesful coaching careers over it LMFAO

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king_bob

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take out boaster and bring in an NA coach not affiliated with mossad and FNC might actually be something

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Yuniee44

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Dawg the only good coach in NA is an EMEA import bffr

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luxdotkom

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z0ta so shite

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Emea most fraudulent region

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Pyrenix

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flair + brother you are watching bloody apac

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what's wrong with watching the best region itw

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luxdotkom

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z0ta has to be so bad losing to ts

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luxdotkom

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disband z0ta

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MrBlooBloom

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bro's working 2 hours a week trying to coach guys with no hands nor brains whilst being 99% reliant on what Shita's coaching staff asks him, not much he can do

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MaximumImpactVLR

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Carried by his players

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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true

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Pusakabo0

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zeta is just ass
even with bad coaching prx and fnc wouldve had a chance

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SleepingSnorlax

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You are not the advisor so glue your mouth please

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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Neither is Mini apparently-all he advises is for teams to lose

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themaniel

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i think you overestimate how much impact a coach can have

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MrHyphon

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bro played four games with zeta and went toe to toe with DRX

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catNmouse

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Instead of slandering mini lets glaze yoman

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Maniacwolf

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Mini helped boaster and fnc create the system they have used and still use

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The problem is coaching has a lot of intangibles.
You can't know how mini affected boasters igling
You can't know how minis coaching affected the remaining fanatic roster after 2023 and how it shaped their structure of play
You can't know how he affected the way Milan coaches (considering they worked together)

There are to many thing that mini could have or couldn't have affected

The facts are
Mini won 2023 straight up

Where other super teams like 2024lev or 2025 vit failed
Mini succeeded he had a super team and got the results of a super team

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Maniacwolf

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Bro has one post and it’s a BANGER

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SleepingSnorlax

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Getting 2 1/2 trophy shows his impact and for zeta we know how there is no hope in that JP roster even DFM look better than Zeta currently
And prolly he is smart coach as well working remotely helps him to earn more