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#1
sexwithgiraffes

how stacked is gen.g in valorant terms?
I heard they are worlds chokers but arguably have the best 5 players for each lane

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kyro1
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basically 2025 g2

#4
Uribaba
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2026 NS would be a better comparison as they totally dominated Santiago

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Ryandr
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Not really the same. Despite the meta geng will always dominate when it's not worlds. No such team in Val.

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Uribaba
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No shit but If we are comparing nongshim's dominance in this tournament would be closer than any other valorant team

#17
Ryandr
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Fanatic in Tokyo was more dominant except for finals tbh.

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koalanoob1
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MSI merchant

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Peak form geng is like unbeatable that they have made league esports boring to watch basically like vitality in cs2 but unlike vitality geng can't handle pressure in major/worlds like event and they fall off hard. League is just 2-3 team esports for a couple of years now.

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none of them are the best in their roles, they’re either washed or unproven

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hoboclap
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the only role you can say they dont have the best players in is support.
and even then, duro is def 2nd to Keria who will honestly never be passed

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king_bob
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bin is the best top itw kiin is mr mickey, shanks knight and lowkey showmaker clear chovy, canyon developed a choke gene and imo im picking peyz over ruler now

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IsthisNAsite
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you are delusional if you think that bin is better than kiin, chovy has been the best midlaner in the world since joining geng, picking peyz over ruler after peyz' last year is beyond clueless

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king_bob
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new year new me

#22
M1ssing
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Peyz last year? Peyz was arguably the best lpl adc last year

#24
IsthisNAsite
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not really, peyz had good players around him and without having someone to baby sit him, he tends to get caught like crazy.

#25
M1ssing
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"Good players" what good players were on that roster besides him and xun bro.

#26
IsthisNAsite
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He also had missing, scout and xiaoxu, who aren't really full poopoo players, they aren't the best, but at least they good enough to play in internationals. I mean, if he needs world class players to be good, then, i guess, he is amazing.

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king_bob
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saying this while being shocked i put peyz over ruler is fucking ridiculous lmfao

#30
IsthisNAsite
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somehow t1 managed to get an upgrade in form of peyz and not qualify to an event over diable kellin duo

#33
M1ssing
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Btw lets not pretend t1 ever had the option of getting ruler or viper

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Ryandr
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That guy didn't watch lpl lol. No need to argue with him. Bro doesn't know that peyz had to play with scout, missing and ale.

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hoboclap
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Shanks, knight, and showmaker all have been terrible compared to chovy recently.

Knight was getting gapped by vicla in first stand, shanks got giga gapped by xiaohu in split 1, and showmaker got absolutely fucked on by vicla in split 1.

Chovy is still the best mid laner in the world even if he hasnt won worlds yet. He will have his time

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king_bob
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all this recency talk with chovy always disappears whenever he starts shitting the bed in real time

#20
hoboclap
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"shitting the bed"
in 2025 worlds, his biggest mistake was getting solo killed by Bdd
while his teammates get a free pass for choking 3 smites, running away from team fights for no reason, getting giga gapped by mid top laners, and getting out played in bot lane.

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king_bob
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yeah the most notorious choker in the game’s history happens to often choke in big moments since GRF. the example you just showed also helped pushed my belief that players like ruler and kiin are not the best itw in my honest opinion (also u cannot be downplaying bdd astro gapping chovy lmfao). i think chovy is amazing but as of rn he’s like the 2nd least deserving player to be called the best in his role

#34
king_bob
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folk 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

#35
king_bob
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

#8
hoboclap
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as good as if all the best players of each role were playing on one team
they only lose if they play too safe, they only lost at worlds last year

#10
outlaw_ftw
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They have the best top laner for past 3 years, best jungle of all time, best mid for past 5 years, best adc of all time and a cracked support who just debuted last year (already has ewc and msi trophy). Watching them play league makes you feel like you are watching an AI play because of the perfect macro and team fighting. They just struggle in worlds hence all the memes. One of the strongest rosters of all time easily.

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M1ssing
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Kiin was most definietly not the best top in 23 and 24, that was zeus and bin

#37
Galactc
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Zeus ints too hard for me to think well of him mechanically he's so good though it honestly annoys me

#38
M1ssing
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zeus was the best toplaner in 23 (especially late 23)
atm i think he is like top 5 or worse

#39
vwrzera
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/96/67/52/966752ba7fb15d37097894412e0b43e5.jpg

#40
Galactc
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He looked good on t1 because they would go along with him on hle he's just left on his own idk why he'd leave it's like he doesn't know

#11
SadPandaBear
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2023 Fnatic

#12
I_LOVE_LESS
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still loses to t1 at worlds

#28
MaximumImpactVLR
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boring ass overrated esports

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