Yoru nerfs

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#1
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Why am I seeing so many people complain about the yoru nerfs as if yoru isn't one of the most busted agents in pro play. The nerfs are good and imo don't go far enough.

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SENfns
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the tp nerf is good the flash nerf is unneccesary

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KOLLLY
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the double flash made it so that the flash inits were useless the flash nerf was absolutely necessary

#14
UhhBrandon
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breach and skye stocks are so up now

#18
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Just Skye

#28
Germy
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breach stocks will never be up. give me kayo or give me death!

#20
SENfns
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if thats the bar then phoenix should only have 1 flash too

#30
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Ok so do you really not recognise the difference between yoru's flash which can be thrown at range like skye, breach, kayo and pheonix flashes which are a lot more selfish. I'm not saying pheonix can't flash for others but it's night and day compared to yoru who can flash for others better than even flash initiators

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and he can have 4 in 1 round whats your point they're the hardest to dodge in the game too

#35
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Ok idk if you're being this daft on purpose but the point is that pheonix flashes are not affecting the viability of flash initiators since they fufill a very different purpose. The fact pheonix can have up to 4 flashes does NOT matter since he again isn't the reason flash initiators suck.

Yoru flashes DO fufill a similar purpose as flash initiators. Suppose you wanted to flash for a waylay or neon, you couldn't do so with a pheonix flash but you can with a yoru flash so he's directly competing with flash initiators who also flash for their dive duelist.

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sorry

#33
Slingz_val
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Flash nerf is absolutely good if uk game at the higher level yorus flash is the reason why agents like skye, gekko and kayo dont get picked up

#34
SENfns
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the poor guy has no entry power anymore

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or they could just rebuff sentis to combat the duelist meta

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Sentinels were strong last year and it didn't matter, yoru was still by far the most picked duelist

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and? once yoru nerf comes through, it's just gonna be neon dominating top picks. and he's still gonna be picked a lot. wouldn't it be better to make all sentis better instead of nerfing duelists, so that teams are forced to use different comps rather than yoru + neon/yoru + waylay?

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My point is even if you make sentis better it's still not gonna change, yoru's pickrate. The duelist that would be most affected by senti buffs is neon not yoru and yoru has been stronger for way too long. Like there is no counterplay to yoru tping across the map other than waiting out his tps

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that is true but the flash nerf was completely unnecessary

#16
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The flash nerf is quite reasonable, yoru is the main reason why flash initiators are just completely dead in the meta

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rose0101
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I agree, yoru only having 1 flash is perfectly reasonable.

I also think it's reasonable for yoru's flash to blind nobody, but himself, be unable to walk, unable to buy guns, have no tp whatsoever, and his clone should not trigger any sentinel util.

#4
zenv
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yet neon is untouched

#5
MindGoblin1
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Neon should just be deleted tbh

#8
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I think Neon doesn't need to nerfed if they buff sentinels accordingly, a big part of the reason neons is as strong as she is because sentis just suck right now

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Langacune
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in what universe neon doesnt deserve a nerf

#12
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The world where cypher and vyse are good agents again

#17
Langacune
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what happens in a 1v1 this guy is just sliding on you with magical fingers

#19
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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HERE COMES THE PARTY

#21
foythvlr
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Youre gonna lose pretty much every 1v1 with a ult tho

#22
Langacune
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neon is way more oppressive than any other agent

#23
foythvlr
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Say that to a jett or raze flying with bazooka and knives

#24
Langacune
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sure bro

#32
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Except cypher easily disarms neon, in a world when cypher has stun trips back

#25
serot
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Just hold wide and low
Works every time

#15
Galactc
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Exactly in what world us a agent being able to do literally everything at once fair in the slightest

#26
FahadKinq
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Did I miss something? Are new balance change released

#27
Galactc
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Leaked yoru loses a flash and tp duration is halved

#29
Marii
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Riot has no clue how to nerf agents, they’re on their 4th clove nerf and she’s still the most picked agent in ranked(the problem is the heal and speed buff which is untouched) they killed Skye 3 years ago and haven’t touched her since, it took them 2 years to make chamber playable

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