Why am I seeing so many people complain about the yoru nerfs as if yoru isn't one of the most busted agents in pro play. The nerfs are good and imo don't go far enough.
Yoru nerfs
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fuzziii [#3]or they could just rebuff sentis to combat the duelist meta
Sentinels were strong last year and it didn't matter, yoru was still by far the most picked duelist
dimmed [#6]Sentinels were strong last year and it didn't matter, yoru was still by far the most picked duelist
and? once yoru nerf comes through, it's just gonna be neon dominating top picks. and he's still gonna be picked a lot. wouldn't it be better to make all sentis better instead of nerfing duelists, so that teams are forced to use different comps rather than yoru + neon/yoru + waylay?
dimmed [#8]I think Neon doesn't need to nerfed if they buff sentinels accordingly, a big part of the reason neons is as strong as she is because sentis just suck right now
in what universe neon doesnt deserve a nerf
SENfns [#2]the tp nerf is good the flash nerf is unneccesary
the double flash made it so that the flash inits were useless the flash nerf was absolutely necessary
fuzziii [#7]and? once yoru nerf comes through, it's just gonna be neon dominating top picks. and he's still gonna be picked a lot. wouldn't it be better to make all sentis better instead of nerfing duelists, so that teams are forced to use different comps rather than yoru + neon/yoru + waylay?
My point is even if you make sentis better it's still not gonna change, yoru's pickrate. The duelist that would be most affected by senti buffs is neon not yoru and yoru has been stronger for way too long. Like there is no counterplay to yoru tping across the map other than waiting out his tps
Langacune [#9]in what universe neon doesnt deserve a nerf
The world where cypher and vyse are good agents again
dimmed [#11]My point is even if you make sentis better it's still not gonna change, yoru's pickrate. The duelist that would be most affected by senti buffs is neon not yoru and yoru has been stronger for way too long. Like there is no counterplay to yoru tping across the map other than waiting out his tps
that is true but the flash nerf was completely unnecessary
KOLLLY [#10]the double flash made it so that the flash inits were useless the flash nerf was absolutely necessary
breach and skye stocks are so up now
Exactly in what world us a agent being able to do literally everything at once fair in the slightest
fuzziii [#13]that is true but the flash nerf was completely unnecessary
The flash nerf is quite reasonable, yoru is the main reason why flash initiators are just completely dead in the meta
dimmed [#12]The world where cypher and vyse are good agents again
what happens in a 1v1 this guy is just sliding on you with magical fingers
Langacune [#17]what happens in a 1v1 this guy is just sliding on you with magical fingers
HERE COMES THE PARTY
KOLLLY [#10]the double flash made it so that the flash inits were useless the flash nerf was absolutely necessary
if thats the bar then phoenix should only have 1 flash too
Langacune [#17]what happens in a 1v1 this guy is just sliding on you with magical fingers
Youre gonna lose pretty much every 1v1 with a ult tho
foythvlr [#21]Youre gonna lose pretty much every 1v1 with a ult tho
neon is way more oppressive than any other agent
Langacune [#22]neon is way more oppressive than any other agent
Say that to a jett or raze flying with bazooka and knives
foythvlr [#23]Say that to a jett or raze flying with bazooka and knives
sure bro
Langacune [#17]what happens in a 1v1 this guy is just sliding on you with magical fingers
Just hold wide and low
Works every time
FahadKinq [#26]Did I miss something? Are new balance change released
Leaked yoru loses a flash and tp duration is halved
UhhBrandon [#14]breach and skye stocks are so up now
breach stocks will never be up. give me kayo or give me death!
Riot has no clue how to nerf agents, they’re on their 4th clove nerf and she’s still the most picked agent in ranked(the problem is the heal and speed buff which is untouched) they killed Skye 3 years ago and haven’t touched her since, it took them 2 years to make chamber playable
SENfns [#20]if thats the bar then phoenix should only have 1 flash too
Ok so do you really not recognise the difference between yoru's flash which can be thrown at range like skye, breach, kayo and pheonix flashes which are a lot more selfish. I'm not saying pheonix can't flash for others but it's night and day compared to yoru who can flash for others better than even flash initiators
dimmed [#30]Ok so do you really not recognise the difference between yoru's flash which can be thrown at range like skye, breach, kayo and pheonix flashes which are a lot more selfish. I'm not saying pheonix can't flash for others but it's night and day compared to yoru who can flash for others better than even flash initiators
and he can have 4 in 1 round whats your point they're the hardest to dodge in the game too
Langacune [#22]neon is way more oppressive than any other agent
Except cypher easily disarms neon, in a world when cypher has stun trips back
SENfns [#2]the tp nerf is good the flash nerf is unneccesary
Flash nerf is absolutely good if uk game at the higher level yorus flash is the reason why agents like skye, gekko and kayo dont get picked up
Slingz_val [#33]Flash nerf is absolutely good if uk game at the higher level yorus flash is the reason why agents like skye, gekko and kayo dont get picked up
the poor guy has no entry power anymore
SENfns [#31]and he can have 4 in 1 round whats your point they're the hardest to dodge in the game too
Ok idk if you're being this daft on purpose but the point is that pheonix flashes are not affecting the viability of flash initiators since they fufill a very different purpose. The fact pheonix can have up to 4 flashes does NOT matter since he again isn't the reason flash initiators suck.
Yoru flashes DO fufill a similar purpose as flash initiators. Suppose you wanted to flash for a waylay or neon, you couldn't do so with a pheonix flash but you can with a yoru flash so he's directly competing with flash initiators who also flash for their dive duelist.
dimmed [#35]Ok idk if you're being this daft on purpose but the point is that pheonix flashes are not affecting the viability of flash initiators since they fufill a very different purpose. The fact pheonix can have up to 4 flashes does NOT matter since he again isn't the reason flash initiators suck.
Yoru flashes DO fufill a similar purpose as flash initiators. Suppose you wanted to flash for a waylay or neon, you couldn't do so with a pheonix flash but you can with a yoru flash so he's directly competing with flash initiators who also flash for their dive duelist.
sorry
dimmed [#16]The flash nerf is quite reasonable, yoru is the main reason why flash initiators are just completely dead in the meta
I agree, yoru only having 1 flash is perfectly reasonable.
I also think it's reasonable for yoru's flash to blind nobody, but himself, be unable to walk, unable to buy guns, have no tp whatsoever, and his clone should not trigger any sentinel util.
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