International MVPs

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Similar to HLTV, most MVPs will go to the winner but you don't necessarily have to win the event as long as you are clearly the best player and had a deep run

Masters Reykjavík 21': Tenz, 1.35 rating, 1.02 KPR, won the event undefeated
Masters Berlin: Yay: 1.33 rating, lost the final but was miles ahead of everyone
Champions Berlin: CNed: 1.15 rating, won event
Masters Reykjavík 22': Yay, 1.19 rating, won event
Masters Copenhagen: Shao, 1.19 rating, won event
Champions Istanbul: Yay, 1.30 rating, 460 total kills, lost in final but was so much better than everyone its not even funny
LOCK//IN São Paulo: Leo, 1.30 rating, won event, Shao was a demon though
Masters Tokyo: Alfajer, 1.33 rating, only lost 1 map the whole event
Champions LA: Demon1, 1.26 rating, 40% HS, won event
Masters Madrid: Johnqt, 1.12 rating, IGL, won event
Masters Shanghai: Texture, 1.21 KD (no ratings), won event
Champions Seoul: Chichoo, 1.18 rating, won event
Masters Bangkok: Trent: 1.21 rating, lost in final but T1 didn't have someone who had an MVP level performance at the event
Masters Toronto: Forsaken: 1.12 rating, IGL, won the event, though you could make an argument for Alfajer
Esports World Cup: Chronicle: 1.30 rating, lost in Final but he was so much better than everyone else at the event I felt it was fair to give him the MVP
Champions Paris: Brawk: 1.16 rating, won event

If you have any suggestions for this list LMK
Also notably Yay had 3 MVPs, sad to HES NOT ON A TEAM considering he was legitimately the best player in Valorant for the pre-franchising era
Also the weakest MVP is (excluding IGLs) is Brawk in Paris (though that doesn't do him justice)
The strongest MVP is EASILY Tenz in Reykjavík 21' though it was in the Valorant stone age

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essay

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Only one I disagree with is Shanghai should be Meteor rather than t3xture. Also not sure I agree with giving IGLs a boost, those should be reverted too

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DiscoOnVal

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it was neither here nor there for me and just going off how the ratings system works he had WAY more first kills and a higher ACS he would have probably gotten the highest rating therefore for me he would get MVP but it could just as easily be Meteor

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Frankly I think if you had a strong enough campaign like JohnQT and Forsaken as an IGL where their opponents so to speak in the MVP race were Zekken 1.15 rating vs JohnQT's 1.12 rating and Alfajer 1.17 rating vs Forsaken's 1.12 rating, I think the value of being an IGL and in Forsaken's case actually winning the event outweighs the rating difference, now you could make an argument that Alfa was so much better than him IE: .24 better KD, 49 more ACS and .22 KPR more outweighs the fact that Forsaken won the event and was IGL but I think it depends on what you value but yet again it's splitting hairs here

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Masters Madrid: Johnqt, 1.12 rating, IGL, won event

what?

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DiscoOnVal

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The only other person who could reasonably win the MVP for Madrid was Zekken and a rating difference of .03 is not enough to overcome the fact that John was IGL on top of his stats

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did you watch the event?

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DiscoOnVal

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yes pretty much any match I could, sure Zekken won them that final and his split performance was out of this world especially on defense but this is an MVP for the whole event not a finals MVP, overall John was outright better than him the entirety of the playoffs not even including him being IGL which for me makes it not even close

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no zekken won them the tournament, he was undeniably the best player in the world at the time, him and tenz would just outright decide rounds by themselves

not taking any credit away from john because he did an incredible job calling AND fragging when zellsis and sacy would occasionally shit the bed but he wasn't close to tenz let alone zekken that tournament

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chill with the glazing bro

also meteor and texture exist, it is at the very least not undeniable that zekken was the best player itw

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at the time my list was 1.zekken 2.t3xture 3.less

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DiscoOnVal

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I'm not saying Zekken wasn't the best player at that time, at all other events it really wasn't close Zekken was miles ahead of John but just for that event because the number were close and John was IGLing I think its fair he gets it

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jawn

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so this is just about stats and selectively applying bias

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DiscoOnVal

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that's not how this works, this is an MVP FOR MADRID, I don't care if someone is better than John at every event for the year except Madrid because the only thing that matters for an MVP at Madrid IS HIS STATS AT MADRID, also if it was just about stats then it would be Zekken but because value is not JUST stats John gets it

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yeah, so stats and bias

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DiscoOnVal

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if you read my response whatsoever you have said otherwise, I have a feeling you were going to say that no matter what I type because you feel your right and I'm wrong and no one will convince you otherwise or your just rage baiting either way there is no point in continuing this conversation

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DiscoOnVal

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I understand for Berlin because he lost the final but that final was closer than the 3-0 shows and up until that he had A 1.45 Rating, 1.63 KD, 1.07 KPR, 304 ACS and 190 ADR which if those were for the whole event would EASILY be the records for players with enough rounds and didn't lose a map in that span, though I could totally see NAts winning it because he was playing out of his mind and gambit were unbelievable at that event

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For Bangkok I think though Izu was really good but with just how close that final was and Frankly Trent was clearly the best player at the event, especially when we take away the Swiss-stage, Trent really separates from everyone else so for me I thought it was Trent but Izu was also quite deserving

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mvp for all those internationals is obviously asspas the goat

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T1 had iZu, and surely Alfajer was Toronto's mvp

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DiscoOnVal

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Izu was very good but Trent was quite a bit better and that final was the most buttclenchingly close thing i've ever seen (rooting for T1 at least)
I considered Alfa but with their ratings being relatively close, Forsaken actually winning it and being an IGL I chose to give it to him, but it was VERY close and I originally chose Alfa but ended up going with Forsaken instead for those reasons

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This confirms Lastpas is the GOAT

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Yay did not deserve mvp for berlin. If he played overwhelmingly well in the final then yeah but he was not far above nats and then chronicle went nuclear in the final

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DiscoOnVal

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both have solid arguments, I could totally see both sides considering NAts won the event and played crazy and certainly is deserving, my thought process was final was close, far closer than that 3-0, it does NOT do that final justice, map 1 could've gone either way EASILY, NV should've won map 2 but threw on CT side and map 3 was somewhat close and frankly throughout the whole event Yay was just a step ahead of everyone and making the final was good enough for me to give it to him

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but he was so much better than everyone else at the event I felt it was fair to give him the MVP

literally why the fuck would a player on the losing team receive MVP like what

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DiscoOnVal

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I want to use this ideology but in practice, it doesn't work like that, for example Chronicle in EWC, he was individually so far ahead of everyone at the event and the only person who had a legitimate argument for MVP other than him was Wo0t, whom Chronicle a .08 rating and .21 KD better than, which is an enormous gap and in the final which couldn't have been closer literally Chronicle wildly out performed him, I think it is unfair, the MVP is an individual award, I didn't want to take away from the fact that winning matters so the majority of all winners (12/16) but certain cases where a player had a great run to the final and that final was close and they were clearly the best player I gave it to them

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nice upvoting urself within 2 seconds of posting

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DiscoOnVal

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bro what I do to you bro😭

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CAUGHT

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DiscoOnVal

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BRO WHAT I DO TO YOU😭