this pacific drama

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NerfMaxima

its all overhyped garbage.

the supposed "cheaters" are fucking 0-3, 1-3 teams. Their gameplay is so dogshit, that if they are cheating, they clearly arent using that info that they hear because their macro is terrible.
Do you know how easy it is to have good macro if you can literally hear what casters say?? how easy it is to spam random smokes?? Ascendants could do that, but what? fucking pro teams cant?

and this t1 drama?? just say you hate the team. people been accusing them of cheating WITH 0 EVIDENCE?? literally slapping anything bad and attributing it to t1. like what?

"the draw is rigged" for who?? they can barely rig the groups in the first place because its based off kick off performance. its not a random draw, AND THE GROUPS ARE BAD FOR THE KOREAN TEAMS LIKE WHAT ARE WE SAYING

some of you guys are coping so hard its crazy. ESPECIALLY full shitter fans

i just cant believe a group of humans can be this collectively stupid

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its all overhyped garbage.

the supposed "cheaters" are fucking 0-3, 1-3 teams. Their gameplay is so dogshit, that if they are cheating, they clearly arent using that info that they hear because their macro is terrible.
Do you know how easy it is to have good macro if you can literally hear what casters say?? how easy it is to spam random smokes?? Ascendants could do that, but what? fucking pro teams cant?

and this t1 drama?? just say you hate the team. people been accusing them of cheating WITH 0 EVIDENCE?? literally slapping anything bad and attributing it to t1. like what?

"the draw is rigged" for who?? they can barely rig the groups in the first place because its based off kick off performance. its not a random draw, AND THE GROUPS ARE BAD FOR THE KOREAN TEAMS LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING

some of you guys are coping so hard its crazy. ESPECIALLY full shitter fans

i just cant believe a group of humans can be this collectively stupid
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kr hate in vct in Off Topic
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two people cheating with their headsets, and accusations for preferential treatment isnt an excuse to be hateful of kr or all kr teams/players btw

only valid hate list is jake sin and the dudes who didnt wear their headsets correctly
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this pacific drama in Valorant Discussion

its all overhyped garbage.

the supposed "cheaters" are fucking 0-3, 1-3 teams. Their gameplay is so dogshit, that if they are cheating, they clearly arent using that info that they hear because their macro is terrible.
Do you know how easy it is to have good macro if you can literally hear what casters say?? how easy it is to spam random smokes?? Ascendants could do that, but what? fucking pro teams cant?

and this t1 drama?? just say you hate the team. people been accusing them of cheating WITH 0 EVIDENCE?? literally slapping anything bad and attributing it to t1. like what?

"the draw is rigged" for who?? they can barely rig the groups in the first place because its based off kick off performance. its not a random draw, AND THE GROUPS ARE BAD FOR THE KOREAN TEAMS LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING

some of you guys are coping so hard its crazy. ESPECIALLY full shitter fans

i just cant believe a group of humans can be this collectively stupid
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look at that!!

i mentioned you in this post ^-^

i just cant believe a group of humans can be this collectively stupid

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let me do a copy pasta in peace idc about the drama

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mb king

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Facts. this drama is so forced

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some people just want to believe

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Idk im just followinf the crowd, i dislike assific tho

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You are like the perfect representation of a sen. lowk respect

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We are the best team itw, just dormant rn

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the only reason they hate on the draw is just to justify their hate for t1

three korean team in group alpha but i’m supposed to believe it’s rigged

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the bums on T1 definitely share scrims and definitely move their headsets to listen 🥱

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im not getting ragebaited by uwukitten xd

nt

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I remember back in his prime how he rage baited 90% of vlr

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doesnt matter the cheating players lost or not. It's about competitive integrity

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do you have comprehension skills or nah?

if they are cheating, they clearly arent using that info that they hear because their macro is terrible. Do you know how easy it is to have good macro if you can literally hear what casters say?? how easy it is to spam random smokes?? Ascendants could do that, but what? fucking pro teams cant?

the implication is that they arent cheating......

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doesnt matter, the info they got from their headphone being not properly weared affect their performance positively or not, we don't want to have outside variable affecting the match, that violates competitve integrity

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maybe if I make it bold and capital you will read ?

read:

"THE IMPLICATION IS THAT THEY AREN'T CHEATING"

^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^

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i just said it doesnt matter they cheat at all, read

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doesnt matter, the info they got from their headphone being not properly weared affect their performance positively or not, we don't want to have outside variable affecting the match, that violates competitve integrity

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By this logic all of CN should be allowed to cheat because they're dogshit lmao

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honestly my bad, I shouldnt have expected people on VLR to be able to read properly and understand what an implication is

if GenG and Secret were cheating, they would have play completely differently. its impossible to play as bad as geng and secret did, unless you purposely are bad, or you dont know how to play the game.

if you truly believe a full blown vct igl cant use perfect information, to make basic calls. you are delusional

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if GenG and Secret were cheating, they would have play completely differently

proof? they can pretend to call bad things

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watch GenG vs Varrel.

watch as genius cheating igl lakia, consistently hit a site with 4 people on it

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sorry forgot to clarify

watch as genius cheating igl lakia, consistently hit a site with 4 people on it

this is sarcasm ^^

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doesnt invalidate my point lol

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now why would lakia throw his elimination match multiple times lol

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idk, youre the one who claim its impossible to play bad. I didn't say anything about their performance

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unless you purposely are bad, or you dont know how to play the game.

^ if you think this is the case. give a reason

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it doesn't work like that, you are the one who claimed that. I didn't, i just said theres a possibility they can pretend to call bad. Which is not wrong

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I myself stated "unless you purposely are bad"

but you have to have a motive or reason for that, otherwise you wouldnt do it.
this is not 1 bad call, its consistent bad calls.

the ONLY reason i can think of for you could have to make consistent bad calls, is if lakia is actively trying to throw the game to make money. in which case why does he need to cheat in the first place

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You seem to think there's only two possible answers: 1. They are evil super genius cheaters the likes of Mossad OR 2. They are stupid shitty teams with no idea what a stack is. Do you think the casters explicitly said that there were 4 people on site or something? No one has ever casted that way. At most they'll say [player name] is rotating quickly. Just because someone is shit doesn't mean they are not cheating. I'm not saying TS and GenG are 100% cheating either but at the very least they are violating the rules with poorly-worn equipment.

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now i dont speak a lick of korean,

but they directly call out numbers in the english streams, so thats the best i got

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the draw is rigged to maximise viewership, not necessarily to help koreans or wtv. they stacked one group with all the popular teams so that the matchups will be hype, which will maximise viewership.

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t1 is more popular than ns
full sense is more popular than global
does anyone even like secret

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ngl frost just exposed himself as an arrogant clown talking shit while achieving nothing in his career at this point it's just comes to a point were he is nitpicking every little detail to make an excuse

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wearing headsets improperly (when you can already vaguely hear the casters with them properly on) is nitpicking?

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lakia and sylvan are just sample... why would jemkin angry with secret and geng..he didn't even play against them.
And Jemkin claims that Korean broadcasts are so loud even with headset blocker he can hear it... so what if he see other players not using their headset properly???

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Akame said that this year's white noise is much stronger than in 2025, so can't even hear the sound of the game, and if overlap with team members' briefings, can't hear the commentary at all.

The intensity was missed omen TP sound.

he said that it seems like Jemkin thought so because he didn't know Korean.

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You are one of the few mature and smart people here.

They're just making excuses.
they can't admit to losing because they're bad at it.