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why do people overrate the bad teams

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#1
kyro1

full sense and navi man they were clearly worse than their opponent ns/m8 but somehow were favourites like do we even watch the games anymore? or are we just saying shit? its still happening btw somehow bbl is the favourite 😭😭

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just braindead fans mostly, especially full sense

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catNmouse
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when shit like this happens it’s usually because one team has more attention than the other

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kyro1
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for full sense i guess it makes sense because primmie dropped +40 in the previous game but ppl get so caught up in stuff like that idk why

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raavv
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teams that represent 1 country (and not a super power country like USA/KR) are ofc gonna get overhyped. Full Sense puts thailand on the map for valo in a HUGE way so ofc when they actually look good they're gonna get hyped. BBL the same. If GE had a single indian player you could be damn sure of the same thing. Honestly it's kind of a shame because they over-hype a team with genuine potential and then it turns to hate when they cant live up to the wild expectations

I also dont think it's wild for BBL to be the favs ngl both them and m8s have looked like the clear #1 and #2 in EMEA rn (whichever order) but BBL's opponents were literally FNC and Vitality and they 2-0d em both + their duelists are playing like stars which ppl love

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kyro1
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everything you said makes 100% sense until the bbl shit.

m8 does literally everything better
bbl skill diffed weak opponents that are perceived to be better than they are bc of name value

bbl insta locks cypher on every map 😭😭
lar0k is good but like cmon we arent serious rn

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name value is like a big part of it also

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raavv
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m8s have looked fantastic so im not gona sit here and try to convince you they'll lose but I think you might be over-hating on BBL. maybe as a reaction to all the BBL over-glaze idk that tends to happen a lot (see: sen fans/haters lmfao)

cypher is def weak as an agent but their def side overall on most maps seems to be strong.

Idk what makes fnc and vitality weak tho.

FNC downgraded chron (no disrespect veq) but even so they are the most experienced and well drilled EMEA team since they kept most roster + coach + IGL and are coming off b2b2b grand final appearances at internationals so they are not a weak team

Vit has a sub but it's a sub who played with the guys before and is a sub they knew they'd need so he must have prac'd a lot and they have a very strong roster overall

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kyro1
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gang they play cypher kill trip set ups in 2026 😭

i mean sure you can say im hating if you want but i do like the team im just not delusional also yes fnc and vit are weak they have bad meta reads and bbl just has more firepower once vit gets sayonara it would be a strong opponent but unfake no disrespect is a ult orb.

positives for bbl is they have good midrounding and good individuals but both of those things m8s beats them on and then they also play better comps, have better macro, have a better map pool like there is no world where bbl should be favoured in this game.

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bbl comps are one dimensional (double duelist - yoru +1, cypher, 1 smoke 1 scan) and esp on breeze it's a little weird ngl and their breeze attack side in particular crashed and burned vs fnc but small sample size

What are you basing the small map pool thing on? BBL have dropped 1 map overall and it was the 1st map of their tournament. m8s i guess havent dropped a map but we've literally only seen 4 of their maps (abyss split bind pearl) so im a bit confused

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kyro1
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exactly we have seen 4 maps from each m8s haven't dropped a map against stronger opponents imo

#36
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yup emea sucks

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raavv
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BBL won breeze in a later series so idk to me not a super weak map. Disagree on the stronger opponents thing but as a proud navi classic owner I refuse to elaborate. I do think it'll be close tho and as a gambling man I'll put my money on it

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kyro1
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im not talking about navi lol im talking about gx who are clearly the 2nd best team in the region

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Anaklusmoss
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I am watching pcf roster about 2 years and their map pool is better than any other team in emea. Pearl is their best map, and they've played Haven like 500 times on T2 (their winrate is very good, btw). They're above average on other maps too (Corrode was a bit weak perhaps, but that was a long time ago). Breeze was a question mark, but it seems they've worked on it very well. It's makes no sense to say that a new team like M8 has a better map pool than BBL. BBL has much more practice on every map.

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inuis
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cause off-meta has never done well has it

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Tempest24
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primmie dihsuckers made me believe for some reason never making that mistake again

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Verstepping33
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i can understand FS being the favorites over NS.
Beat them 4 times last year

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bbl is very valid though

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kyro1
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holy shit if i see another one of these im tweaking out. bbl does literally nothing better than m8 its the quickest 3-0 imaginable congrats you skill diffed shitty fnatic and vit with a sub

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forklift2
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quickest 3-0 imaginable? like m8 3-0's bbl?

#15
catNmouse
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yeah

#17
forklift2
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stop lying to urself holy 😭

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Reznor
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TLN core never losing to NS it's surprising they lose

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kyro1
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shouldn't have been at all that was a result of frost he proved it earlier in the tournament with varrel also full sense gameplans are straight buns now

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Reznor
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everyone overrate team for a reason/favor cause we don't even know yet before they matchup this kickoff year is just full an upset everything is unexpected

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kyro1
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i mean yes i get its kickoff there will be upsets but cmon how are we looking at the drx vs fs game and the t1 vs ns game and thinking "huh fs yeah they needed a life game to get passed drx im sure they got ns in the bag" like i swear ppl watch blindfolded or sum

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9wntr
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m8 will prolly beat bbl
but ive liked bbl since ascension
FORZABBL

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kyro1
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it would take a intervention from the heavens to stop m8 from spanking bbl the m8 coaching staff is so far clear its genuinely funny

#21
9wntr
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https://i.ibb.co/hFCC5Lxy/image-1769923421635.png

#25
kyro1
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😭😭😭😭 im sorry

#46
Kezzo
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bbl will teach m8 how to play ;)

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delighted
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why are people not focusing on the real upsets like DFM beating TS

#16
kyro1
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😭😭✌️

#18
delighted
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?

#32
TheFumbler
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What a terrible bait. It actually made me laugh

#34
delighted
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?

#22
Ahnri
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BBL 3-1

#24
kyro1
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name 1 thing bbl does better literally 1

#39
Anaklusmoss
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better chemistry, better map pool (don't say a new roster like m8's map pool is better than bbl)

#28
MeloSquids
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dumbass primmie fanboys

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Lyxium
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xineFso effect

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