no doubt one of the best itw since 2024 but until heretics get their masters/champs trophy i dont think many will consider him for goat

esp since heretics overall have had other plays really shine it's not like you can point to riens and say he's carrying. woot was an absolute demon in shanghai, 2024 benjy was a big time shooter, miniboo was great when he came back. boo's calling was solid too so it kinda falls in a similar enough place to the other goats anyway

okay but isnt every goat candidate the same thing? 2022 loud was an unbelievably high level team, the only one of their 5 who "fell off" was pancada the guy who MVPd

NRG already beat em chief you dont have to do this just to qualify

was great at the start of the year just randomly he's on perma neon assignment because someone is an idiot. lets see what they do post-neon meta ig but based on that i have limited faith

if the abilities are balanced then yeah i'd argue introducing more variables absolutely raises the skill ceiling of a game, at least up to a point of having way too many. you literally just have more skills you need to learn and be competent in. this is generally true outside of video games too

1v1 basketball vs 5v5 which has the higher skill ceiling obviously the 5v5. or to use your example chess where every piece of either pawn, king or queen VS chess as we know it today - obviously the one with more variables has the higher ceiling

hope this helps!

valo has more variables so it has a higher skill ceiling (we are nowhere near the ceiling)

cs players probably have significantly better mechanics (movement, aim) and fundamentals (map macro, trading/spacing etc) compared to valo players because valo players simply have more variables to focus on. which is more or less what you're describing

anyone who thinks one game is objectively harder than the other is being a bit short-sighted unless they specify a smaller context "harder to do this exact thing"

underrated comment gave me a lil chuckle thanks chief

this would be great yeah, or at least have an available tab that really shows the entire schedule including the less relevant ones so the main page isnt cluttered or whatever but the info is still easy to access

Can someone explain why there are matches missing when i press "All" in upcoming matches?

I see vietnam SEA qualifier matches, LATAM and NA GC but there are literally games in 1 hour for VCL EMEA that are more or less the same "tier" as LATAM challengers but not shown at all

This seems to happen somewhat frequently and i don't get why because it says "All" so why would it not show all? If you search up one of those VCL EMEA teams like fokus/navi junior/joblife/reborn/barca etc the match shows up just fine they just made a choice not to put it on ANY kind of schedule for upcoming matches?

Not trying to attack people with this thread I just genuinely would like this to be fixed or at least have an answer as to why some tier 2 games are allowed to be shown here and some arent when it literally says "All"

I think you're selling the 2023 tournaments a bit short. Lock in was a bit of a meme for its format (all teams invited, no double elim, no group stage) but there were some strong teams there. NRG (yes they were good), DRX, Loud, PRX

Even some of the other teams like Navi were coming off a great 2022 and they changed only 1 player from that 5 who won copenhagen

Tokyo also had a bunch of strong teams including the EG who won champs a few months later, the same Loud who dominated americas that year etc

If you look for reasons why any tournament is mickey-esque you can find em. Fact is they won vs the best players of 2023 and deserve their flowers

i completely agree that's why i said "went" past tense. last year benjy was noticeably worse than he was in 2024 and this year he jumped back up again

honestly i think all this "vibe merchant" stuff is hurting his individual performances. too much focus on that, too much energy expended and encourages a mindset of low mechanical confidence. im not good enough to have impact with my own gunskill so i need to do this

lowkey benjy and boaster went through smth similar too imo. boaster's weird antics on stage got wildly more exaggerated last year

Alecks is the objectively correct answer imo. Crazy longevity + 4 grand finals + 1 trophy + consistently one of the best APAC teams which is the hardest region (cry about it)

mini very solid but he quit a while ago. if we count his PRX contributions he's up for sure

Americas doesn't really have any 1 coach who has longevity + results maybe joshRT but g2 havent won a big trophy yet

Edit: 4 GFs

Cut termi already. People were calling for it all last year until they cooked at champs with waylay yoru stuff.

termi is a mental health terrorist who benches and re-picks up players for fun every few weeks and my conspiracy theory is that he bullied flashback so hard he retired. also this whole free1ing 2nd duelist thing isnt a good look imo let him play what hes good on

they just need to fix their mental from collapsing after a map loss. i swear every time they have a "big" match as soon as they lose 1 close map they get absolutely rolled in the next one.

not even a roster issue imo just stop giving up on yourselves

yes if you lose then you can no longer call yourself undefeated because you have been defeated

even if there's a rematch and khamzat wins he will still have been defeated so he will never be able to claim that word "undefeated" ever again

they got enough shooters bro they need someone to help with midrounding and take pressure off the verno igl he's not there yet

also wtf is this random mazino disrespect

i think there are ways to communicate that you just wanna play the game and win without the drama

"lets just all mute him and play the game normally please i wanna win"

more or less the same things you might say when you get a raging sexist and a girl teammate on the same team

okay fair enough then i retract my statement. free flor

i mean i dont see why everyone else on their team is forced to suffer a thrower (flor) just because they have a clown trash human (sick) on the team. the other 3 people on the team didnt load up valo just to waste their time for ~30 minutes on a lost game to throwers

but idk what all this "throwers make me more angry than pdfs" nonsense is bro time to open the windows and at least sniff the outside air

realistic answer: i dont think it matters, jerrwin lets rob moore tap into the indian market for new fans so as long as he plays okay he's probably staying for a little while at least

also imo he played noticeably way better today than the last 2 series so it could be that he's growing and becoming more comfortable with the team

as far as reduxx goes i actually think mechanically he is really goddamn good and his struggles come elsewhere. im not sure what the vision is here but he definitely doesn't look super comfortable on the omen. harder to make a 2nd tenz than they thought i guess? idk personally i wouldnt mind trying john back on the omen and flipping reduxx over to the sage/viper/flex. sage in particular could give him some freedom - i think when playing roles like omen he just isnt comfortable. sage is much simpler (split comp)

i think it's worth noting that sen needed the full 2023 to rebuild into their 2024 roster that won madrid

a lot of fans just wanna win now and realistically that's just not how it's gonna work unless you pick up absolute stars and get lucky in a sense of personalities and playstyles meshing well together on limited practice

you just got a new coach, changed IGLs and replaced 2 players. trying to instantly switch to win now mode is kinda insane and unrealistic imo. you are already 2-1 with half a brand new team and the 1 loss is to furia who are one of the best in americas

jerrwin is an aggressive entry and sen have capitalised on that really well on a lot of their attack rounds i dont think replacing him would even be useful unless it's for someone who is clearly one of the best in the world (zekken, etc)

this is how most 100t series have gone for like 2 years atp. they look really good for 1 or 1.5 maps and then awful the other half it's super weird idk adderall crash or what

bro just hates IGLs they're all gone

my understanding is as follows:

talent is what you have naturally

skill is what you develop through effort

so talent is more or less identical to genetics in my view. you could argue a grey area for the circumstances in which somebody grew up (loving parents vs bad parents) but i don't see how that's really a "talent" that somebody possesses innately

yes it's a skill not a talent. you arent born genetically with an "intention to improve" my guy that's a mindset you develop intentionally

yes but you are assuming this is genetics. vast majority of pros have prior FPS game experience or at least competitive experience in other games which gives a lot of transferrable skills and the right mindset for improvement instead of autopiloting

im sorry bro but that's just hard untrue if those 700 hours were spent poorly

someone super talented for bench press might spend 5 years benching with terrible form and awful programming + commitment they will never reach a high level of strength let alone world class even if they have a great "talent" for it

people use talent as a cope far too often particularly in an esports setting like almost all these skills that pros have are learnable. not 100% of them but a very significant portion

what exactly makes up talent for an esport? much easier to tell in physical sports. and how can you even know if you have talent if you're bronze and just beginning to "try"? you have no idea. even people with great physical genetics have very little idea of where they stand for sports performance until they start training (unless growing up in physically demanding environment like on a farm)

that plat kid with 700 hours how many of those were spent actually trying to learn skills and apply them vs autopiloting? not a clue. nobody knows except maybe him so it just seems crazy toxic to be taking a dump on other peoples' dreams when we know nothing about them

why does it matter where you start as long as you are willing to work hard it could happen

and even if it doesn't it's their life and their goals bro let them be at least they're trying at something in life

pseudo deleted comment couldnt handle trash talking my fishgoat

cant remember him ever chamber-ing tbh even on loud in the chamber meta. if they do opt for chamber i'd expect it on tex or maybe zekken but probably tex

if it's for 100t i fully believe they should have dropped asuna for jonah after kickoff and trolled by not doing that

that said i dont think asuna is in any way bad just him and 100t need to part ways for the benefit of both parties really so depends entirely on context.

jonah feels like he would be more beneficial to midrounding. he's also capable of flexing on some other roles like viper/sage etc not just a hard flash ini

asuna more explosive more energetic both in comms and in server + obviously can flex 2nd duelist his raze is solid

overall i feel like jonah's skillset is harder to find while still being a good shooter so i'll take him on most teams

you haven't really said why this is a problem in the first place though

what's wrong with a turk in london servers? as long as he comms in english who cares. what's the harm being done? genuine question

unfortunately been the case every year just not for americas. usually as i recall it's emea that starts late for no reason and every time china starts early so they get to finish early and arguably prep more? i dont really know why they keep doing this but it's ridiculous

idk why everyone says 5 potential-man players as if suygetsu didnt already win a trophy and prove himself as one of emea's best shooters but whatever

they are not a superteam im afraid. suygetsu and narrate are the only ones you could argue proved themselves as stars on other rosters before coming to kc. dos9 avez lewn have shown flashes but havent really proven themselves as stars at tier1 level yet to be considered stars. and even narrate never really did much except for get some good stats in domestic. not saying this to sh*ttalk any of them

if we compare it to 2023 lev which is the first time "superteam" was thrown around it doesnt even come close. same for T1 when they made theirs

it will give you a small boost to performance (strength, endurance) which can help you train a little harder/heavier. it's not a wonder drug it wont do anything crazy but it will help a little

it also will not make you bald and any bloating will likely fade on its own after a few days

I feel like you're slightly re-telling the 2022 loud era. it wasnt aspas and friends his peak arguably was after that. not that he was bad in 2022 but they were all fantastic and personally i would argue he wasnt their most impactful player that year

as much as i think jaw haters are stupid i kinda feel like it's equally silly to be over-glazing from 1 half of 1 map. love jaw tho

quite literally again this depends on which stats you look at so thanks for agreeing with me in your own way at least. going to stop replying since this has become monotonous and no valid points are being addressed. have a nice day

if we're going to ignore him every time he plays well and focus only on bad games and also ignore stats he does well and only focus on other stats then yeah we will get a pretty bad impression of him. glad we agree

vs nrg over 300 acs, 11-3 first blood

vs mibr 217 acs, 11-8 first blood and a hard diff on aspas in a 3-0

i would say that's pretty good yeah

g2 3-0d mibr, 2-0d nrg in 2026 and jaw played pretty well in both lol..? he then has a bad half of 1 map and you post about him being trash (did fine rest of series btw but ig u didnt care), he had a bad first half of a first half of a first map here and you make 2 threads about him

2025 winning americas, making an international finals and being forced to make a roster change due to leaf health issues mid-season and still being #1 americas team is a bad team now i guess

bro the first map isnt even over and you've made multiple threads attacking him (your own player btw) dont pretend to be a neutral observer lmao

yeah it was a crappy attack half nobody is denying it but my point is that it's more of a macro issue. it's not like jaw was whiffing. his role on g2 in many matches on attack is to throw his life into the entry, especially on yoru/waylay. helps to sell fakes, take space etc they dont draw up plays for him to take kills.

his stats were mostly a victim of the system hes playing in on g2 which has been the g2 way for years since the guard era. which brings me back to my statement of people hating on his stats because they dont watch the games

n4rrate gets cooked because he's (was) sen and every sen player is either jesus or judas according to the masses it's stupid and unfortunate

g2 have never played a way that benefits a fragging entry duelist who hard carries. sayaplayer, tex, icy, jaw and possibly leaf for a short time i cant remember. but they keep winning anyway, dominated americas and been one of the best teams itw for a while. if sen were going to every international and won americas then im sure n4rrate would have been treated much better. same for heretics and miniboo

every jaw hater is just stat-watching and doesnt watch the games change my mind

me pretending to be surprised when he immediately starts fragging once it's def half and he can play for himself more

welcome to pro valorant where every team doesnt play exactly the same as the next

this is always how they've used jawgemo it's a gameplan issue and i agree it's being over-abused

what u want him to do? his role on that attack half was to be a hard entry and get info + get traded. it wasnt like he was losing equal gunfights lol