I think it will flop just like Veto
wdym water grenade tho? ig it will destroy cypher trips
this is basically another cypher nerf
why do they hate cypher
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Apparently the rework will be live on nov 11th and game files had grenade in the name of one of his abilities, that’s what I read on twitter
yea by me (not actually)
https://www.vlr.gg/post/5776626/last-minute-harbor-rework-prediction
its actually so funny general player base thinks veto is weak hes better than prime chamber right now lol
When I said flop I meant pick rate wise, ranked is still basically chamber reyna clove and jett
it will always be like that just the nature of ranked, veto just has higher mastery than chamber bc he has util most players dont really understand how to use util and prefer to focus on aim
Pro playerbase also agrees that Veto is weak. I remember telling this to you earlier and I’m surprised you haven’t changed your opinion yet but I’m willing to wait a couple more weeks for RBHG to help you decide
Show me a coach that has expressed that opinion recently, not prior to or immediately after his release. People overreact to new agents all the time. People said waylay would be OP and then she clearly wasn’t (needed several major buffs to become good)
https://x.com/FollowNbs/status/1980079935965331622
https://x.com/FrosTvsYou/status/1978239232536649787
https://x.com/WendlerTV/status/1979259659379716323
could keep going but that should be enough for you
also veto is really the first ever counter pick agent which i dont see getting talked about enough
None of these are recent, and ofc you chose 2 unemployed coaches as well lol. Nbs is the only employed one and he’s the one with the least experience with Veto bc he was coaching during ascension
and who do you work for smartass? have you coached anyone in your life?
holy unaware
"None of these are recent, and ofc you chose 2 unemployed coaches as well lol. Nbs is the only employed one and he’s the one with the least experience with Veto bc he was coaching during ascension"
You argued coaches are unemployed. you absolute buffon were you ever even a coach? you attacked their emplyment right?
Idk how but you managed to miss the point entirely. I’m not attacking their coaching quality. Them being unemployed means they don’t have a team that they can scrim with to actually see the quality of Veto in pro play. Unfortunately your brain doesn’t have any critical thinking capacity so you didn’t figure that out
apparently 14 days ago isnt recent enough lol doesnt meet your quota gotta be yesterday huh and acting like frost and wendler dont know what they are talking about
14 days ago isn’t recent enough bc it isn’t at least 2 weeks away from the release of Veto which essentially means in that timeframe, the agent wouldn’t have even been VCT eligible so no one can have a serious enough understanding of the agent to know how pro play viable the agent is
from
almost every coach agrees with me
to 3 coaches, 2 of which aren't franchised into
could keep going but that should be enough
i'm genuinely curious, it isn't enough for someone, what do you have to corroborate "almost every" coach agreeing with you?
have you never heard the term general sentiment? its basically summing up the opinions on a subject. the subject in this case is veto's viability of which almost every coach ive seen share their opinion on twitter has said they think hes very strong. which i agree with. attacking employment status during the off season to try to discredit what im saying is genuinely sad, could you really not think of anything better?
just seems like you're being intentionally misrepresentative to try to push an agenda... but maybe i'm wrong
it's not even that i disagree with you, i was genuinely just curious if you were being rhetorically deceitful on purpose
so do you expect them to quote every coach now?
I mean this in the most productive way, how about you show an instance when a coach said otherwise?
i feel like you’re twisting my words a little bit
i’m talking about the fact that they said “nearly every coach agrees” with them and then proceeded to come up with an insanely small, cherry picked, and obscured, sample size that’s clearly biased in their favour and unrepresentative of the “every coach” claim even in a context devoid vacuum where it was taken literally
i don’t even disagree with the point about veto, i think he’s a good agent
i just think the phrasing is disingenuous and counterproductive to dialogue
if you bothered to read my next response you’d see that
im like 99% sure the grenade is just his current ult geysers reworked into a regular ability (info gathering and corner clearing on controller aka instantly meta post initator nerfs)
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