I saw a thread on John potentially being a fraud today and I wouldn’t go that far but I am a bit concerned on how impactful his calling really is
https://www.youtube.com/live/bW52yv_jESw?si=QkLFxbsEk4S21mfI 2 hours 49 minutes
Bonkar is talking about when he was going to join M80 he got sent vods and thought Koalanoob was the igl that’s how much he was mid rounding where John didn’t say much at all. Do you think it changed on SEN?
I moreso blame kaplan for not being able to shift the team's identity away from heavy retake crutching
It’s possible Kaplan pushed that stuff onto the SEN roster but he also teamed with John on ghost so surely there would’ve been some type of coordination/knowledge prior to joining no?
John is a really bad midrounder and it's been known for a while tbh. Thankfully he had Sacy last year, this year it was showing even more. Sen also had bad prep at times but idk if it's more on him or kaplan
We dont have anywhere near info
I feel like sentinel IGLs will always be "bad igls" if you mainly judge an IGL by their midrounding though
cause theres only so much you can do when you have to make decisions based on second hand information - having someone there just make the call is SO much faster and less prone to miscommunications
Good sentis are precisely very helpful for the midrounding normally, as they are the ones able to call their teams back if needed and possible, and relay critical info in terms of the rotates and which area the defense contests. It shows a lot in some teams like fnatic and G2
helpful sure, but the fact that you named 2 teams that dont have sentinel IGLs is exactly why I believe senti IGLs arent ideal:
theres way less (time critical) information to relay and make decisions on vs 2-3 people using util to gather info and take space
TL is the big example of this year (aside from Sen ofc) that does show it can work - but watching TL you also see just how much it changes how the team calls compared to other teams.
I cant really judge if TLs problems were due to that; but there were plenty of games where nats and his midrounding got abused. Again no clue if thats due to the role, traditional IGLs get owned too.
It makes me happy as a Koalanoob glazer that he has way more impact than the eye can show, even did it on duelist which helped John and that’s why M80 looked good.
Maybe SEN it was only Zellsis that kinda had that role outside of John and nobody else was vocal enough to kid round which caused struggles? Because a roster that skilled shouldn’t be struggling midround like this years SEN did
Yeah I agree. Sentinel IGL might be hard and we don’t know the details of the other players on their ability to make correct midrounding for John. I feel like if they had more time to practice John initiator it would’ve worked out better
Yeah last year where Sacy was incredibly vocal and you had Tenz who fit the team identity much better than Bang did. (Bang is still a beast though)
He's solid though if I'm being honest idk why people want him on fnc so badly he would not fit at all on that team
Why not? He is really good imo and fits Fnatic role wise and personality wise as well I'd imagine
I'd much rather have alfa play kj and then flex onto duelists personality which means on my theoretical fnc roster he'd be playing initiators which is something I never want to see ever
I guess but that just doesn't fit fnc's style I see them playing double recon initiator comps and either 2 duelists or viper on most maps with kj otherwise on this patch idk I could be proven wrong it's not like he would be that bad unless he plays initiator anyway
fnc this year have played mostly double controller/sentinel with some double duelist, the only time they’ve played double initiator was when fracture was in the map pool and abyss in champs
heading into next year i think the meta will lean towards double controller/double duelist
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