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initiator changes

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#1
ayo67tuff

https://x.com/arivalorantt/status/1977424685831704811

surprised that skyes getting her rechargeable flashes again
(+ sentinel changes at the bottom)

#2
ggd12345
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and tejo

and... gekko

#5
ayo67tuff
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i assume teams now wanna rush the site faster with this change now
and defense are just going to save their util for the site hit

#3
9wntr
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skye viper omen yoru +1 is finna be the meta

#15
cloudberry
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It's actually Yoru Skye Harbor Viper Vyse but y'all ain't ready for that conversation

#18
9wntr
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depends on harbor rework

#16
ayo67tuff
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https://x.com/arivalorantt/status/1977430878717653239

yoru ult is just nothing now, just info gathering then tp out

#19
9wntr
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welcome back jett meta
ive seen enough
100t winning champs with cryo perma jett

#23
ayo67tuff
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jett, skye, omen,viper, raze
this checks out

#4
1d
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FNATIC loves this change

#6
SENfns
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not confirmed

#7
ayo67tuff
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still this could have been that request that fns made on rechargeable util

#8
SENfns
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FNS is streaming the new patch notes tmr js wait

#20
KClaw
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When did he say this?

#29
Aminbg02
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valorant official twitter

#9
ggd12345
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i think this is just a picture of all initiators, no way gekko is 10 -> 60 second s

#11
ayo67tuff
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https://x.com/Altombre/status/1975621235548823939
the devs are starting to confirm the patch notes

#12
ggd12345
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yeah but nobody said anything about skye getting rechargeable flashes

#17
ayo67tuff
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surprise

#26
ggd12345
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i'm still confused is the post supposed to be sarcastic

#27
ayo67tuff
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its real, all of the initiators are getting giga nerfed

#30
ggd12345
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it says "FROM 40" to 60 though, so this sentence cannot apply to skye, tejo, and gekko no?

#32
ayo67tuff
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maybe all 3 of them
gekko could recover dizzy and wingman without picking them up but wait for 60s
skye and tejo is a big maybe

#22
KClaw
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I mean 60s will be quite alright no? Like it won't make her too busted and having a flash recharge after 60s is reasonable enough to atleast get her into meta . I don't know about tejo tho, that's again.shite

#28
ayo67tuff
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its atleast better cuz its not a fade / sova repeat (except we'll see the two on corrode or ascent)

#10
Galactc
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Um I assume this really doesn't include gekko this sounds horrible for him and more annoying than anything else for the rest except breach who's been getting hit way too hard lately for how shit he's always been to play in soloq

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ayo67tuff
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honestly, im predicting that when you dont recover dizzy or wingman in time, you will probably recover them but wait 60s for it so its not like ur just throwing out utils and have nothing for a rehit / fake.

#14
unknown_trash
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YUESSSSS MY BABY SKYE FINALLY IM GOING TO CLIMB TO DIAMOND AS A SKYE ONE TRICK

#21
chasethefuture
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Personally I think its a terrible change, it will be better for the pro scene for sure but for ranked why would people ever play sova or fade again (best initiator on a lot of maps).

#24
SudokuDude
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I always knew Skye would get that back. You can't just nerf her and have other initiators being more useful.

#25
ayo67tuff
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https://x.com/arivalorantt/status/1977435151178031527
this doesnt apply to sage neither deadlock since their utility isnt breakable
i think this will apply to veto considering its breakable but who knows

#34
soonwookong
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technically the wall and barrier are breakable

#35
ayo67tuff
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their not regenerable util

#37
soonwookong
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yea its only the health decrease

#31
BeastieBoys
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I'm honestly ok with this change, with the sole exception of Breach. Breach is fine at 40 seconds per stun, but the rest of the Initiators get their info abilities back after 40 seconds, which can be toned down honestly. 60 isn't too harsh, you can still do 2-3 fights per round. I'd like to see riot experiment more with the non-recon agents (+ skye), and explore 45 or 50 second timings as buffs to even out initiator viability.

Skye with a 60 sec cycle is stong again, and the recon agents will always have a place in the meta. Plus these 3 + Gekko are probably the most accessable ranked agents, so having them be 60 seconds while the more "niche" Initiator's get buffed timings will make learning the other Initiator's feel more rewarding.

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beayuh
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