I don't think Chronicle is the best goat candidate in his current roster. Alfa's 2 trophies are worth more than Chron's 3 based on their own performances. Plus Chron was BY FAR the worst player on his team on Champs 2023, expecially against loud. He was like -37 over the two series. That was literally double of Boaster. Aspas diffed him to the moon. Replace him with Hiro and that Fnatic team would 3-peat. This guy is overrated.

Sacy my goat.

Alfa had a bad map 2, which means it's impossible for the team to get 2 rounds. Dragging them to success. This poor man.

Alfajer has carried Fnatics Legacy for 4 years (w/ Leo) and I'm sick of pretending he's not the sole reason they're still successful.

Fnatic basically lives and dies by how much help Kajaak can give Alfa, so he gets a lot of stats. But pure impact, Batman has a serious case. His aura got Paper Rex a trophy.

All Verno did was have a more embarrassing international appearance with his team than NRG vs Bilibili.

4 years of just going as far as Alfa (and Leo when healthy) can pull these rocks.

I mean that's fair. If a guy isn't doing his job he doesn't deserve RR. If you're doing your job, you'll play the next few games and net out a gain while the other guy will be hardstuck. Hot take - more people need to throw ranked games. Some of these mfs don't deserve to win, and if you yourself are not the issue then you won't have a net penalty. Trying your best to win some games bails out players who don't deserve it.

No

I mean, if you think a region is "too big" then the pro league can just add more slots in tier 1. Some regions may only need 8 slots to accurately respersent their region and be competitive, some regions may need 12. All it does is allow for more players from that region to be picked up as exports (which is what has been going on for underrepresented sub-regions like NA since the start of franchising). The visa shit, expecially in America's, is so ass. It's gotten to the point where the SA talent pool is being so hurt developmentally. I'd imagine APAC is also slightly limited by having bad ping scrims with the higher quality teams all settled in korea, but don't quote me on that. I think it works.

Edit: Look at Pacific right now. Clearly the strongest region between multiple top East Asian and APAC rosters. It's not like these mfs would be ass if they were split. It isn't 2022 anymore where the NA and EMEA 5th seeds were better than an Asia champs team. yeah ik optic lost to xerxia but in terms of the larger competive scene, NA and EMEA were receiving ghe most slots and still being underrepresented. That isn't the same today. BBL vs Current form DFM isn't that crazy.

Also this would allow for a banging LCQ each year, so I'm down.

Dante will make up for all of this, thank god.

Shoutout to the goat at Champs 2023, when he put everything on the table to go 97/64 (+33) with a +15 FB/FD while asspas went 45-82 (-37), which was worse than even Saadhak, with a -8 FK/FB, and a -11 with Chron, over the two series that Fnatic played against Loud.

Of course, we all know Fnatic won both of those series. Honestly goat shit right there, showing up in the biggest moments.

You're playing one game with those mfs for elo, this is their workplace. If you got into work and had a co-worker act like that about your work, then it would be an extremely toxic atmosphere and you'd probably prefer to work elsewhere. This isn't a ranked game, it's their job.Criticism in the workplace needs to be structured for growth, not to boost your own ego up.

Heretics, cause they stole half a mill from Saudi and genuinely gained nothing else.

You have no idea how good UdoTan was.

Yay won with FNS and Victor on his team. Derke won getting boosted by Alfa and Leo.

They are not in the same conversation.

Why pick up Demon1 when SonOfCar is right there. Hand my boy the bag.

I still think Riens is almost definitely a top 3 player in EMEA with Kajaak and Alfa. I'd have him in my top 10 global for sure.

You either need Asuna full time Initiator, and force Cryo to play Raze, or you need Cryo on full time sentinel (Boostio on Initiator / Astra) and force Asuna to play dive on every map. I don't think the constant swing of roles helps this team at all, it hurts an already inconsistent team. You have to commit cryo to Duelist or you have to throw his ass down on Sentinel and force a Chamber into whatever comp you can. I like Cryo sentinel more than him on full time duelist, just because I think it could bring him more consistency and I believe in trickle-down-fragonimics. The team is doomed regardless, their peaks just fall away so quickly I don't know man. Also getting boostio out of this FNS glazing level of fragging on Sentinel is more valuable than anything.

He got on the pod without his meds again, they needed a new short for this week.

I honestly have no idea why the coachin staff is pushing this style of play. It feels like such offseason meta comps and a passive style when you have Zekken, N4rrate, and Bang. My biggest gripe with the decision making is keeping Zellsis on such a high senti rate. I'd love to see this guy on more flash, but the most vocal player on the roster is on hard senti. Genuinely, i would rather John on Senti, purely because N4rrate and Zellsis have good enough midrounding to compinsate information for a more potent lurk.

Zellsis was a top entry player in NA heading into franchising, and he's at his best when he's in a position to play aggressive. Remember how peak the sen split was in 2024? That was due to how aggressive Zellsis played around his smoke in mid. This guy can still be insanely impactful in that aggressive role. Please kap, run some fucking double duelist and some Zellsis Initiator (skye, kayo).

Edit - they can't play like a B- G2 and expect to beat G2. Adapt instead of retracting. Please.

This team is so odd. They're good, and i think they could make champs, but it just feels so wrong. It still feels like EG on on par with 2G, when they are probably within the top 6 of AM.

They needed Chron to have a single game against Loud that was a better than FNS against BiliBili.

He was -37. Boaster was -18. All they needed was "the goat" to not play twice as bad as Boaster.

Chron is the only reason Fnatic didn't go 3/3. Leo and Alfa were trying to drag him, but bro decided to put up boaster numbers instead. Goat shit.

Yall dick ride Chron for being in the pocket for 3 trophies, I can dick ride the guy who actually put in the work to win 2 of them.

Leo's still gonna be #1 no matter what. Alfa and Boaster could win EWC and I'd still put leo ahead of both those guys.

Top 3 at champs is crazy ngl.

These guys winning for sure.

It doesn't even matter because NRG is winning this tournament without dropping a map. My w streamer cannot faulter.

The best team of 2024 vs the best team of 2025. Lets get cruising.

Isn't G2 hitting a chill ass -best player +coach, like wtf did you expect. Like the guy was the 2nd worst player on his 2023 pro team, and he's in the game instead of Leaf, who is arguably the best Sentinel player in America's (Sentinel is not even Shaack's role). The fact they got a map off a Masters team with (essentially) an immortal 2 player is crazy.

This man is actually Brazil's gift to Valorant.

Setting down, they beat a post RB titan roster that might as well be plumbers.

All of emea was fucked that event, but my biased brain tells me FPX would have lost to Zeta so who really cares that they weren't there.

But on like a real note, FPX, Optic, and Loud were clearly the top 3 teams of that year, so I don't think it's fair to say it's catagorically a fluke. Would FPX be a hard game for Optic? Yes, absolutely. But, it was a game that would be close. M1 was also the strongest form of optic (after groups) so I don't think it can be called a fluke. Even with the worst conditions, the #2 seed beating the #1 seeds is not a fluke.

The only real fluke is Acend, because they were bailed out by the riot refs being shit, and the riot decision makers being even more shit. They quite literally lost in their first match to Keyd, but got bailed by a cam ruling. They almost lost WITH a 7 round advantage. They would have been clobbered by x10 and went out 0-2, but they fluked out. These guys are all in french tier 2, and they're alright, but no other champs winning player is in t2 (sacy is retired, and s1mon is the head monk in the temple that prays on EDG's downfall).

That's the fluke of all flukes, nithing even comes close.

This might be a serious shitpost moment from me, but what if -Raze +Vyse. It hurts the burst idea of the comp, but honestly getting another flash means you can focus on numbers fights more than your raze dive bombing.

This is more-so for midrounds and attack - midround you still have vyse info and you have 2 sites with MAD delay. On attack, the idea is simply 5>3 since it would be impossible to flood or retake fast on either site. Scan, drones, stuns, nets, and double flashes might be enough spam to run a duelist-less ascent.

Just hear me out.

The entire roster is more than vocal enough that having him on Senti would bring more value. Zellsis gets more value as an aggressive player, and it gives more room for the zoomers to frag out (which should be this rosters win con).

Keeping Zellsis with the pack to be the primary midrounder, with John having higher firepower and lurk presence to manipulate rotates would an absolute step up.

Kajaak is the only player who actually gets boomed by nerves, so it would be crazy.

Nuke em

Jemkin went 0-14 on Reyna in a grand final, and i'm still willing to call him the best player at this tournament.

I honestly don't think it's the same for this year, just with how the teams have played. Going into Shanghai - G2, Gen.G, and Heretics were better teams than 100T, Paper Rex, and Fnatic. Fnatic has been a better team than Heretics this year, G2 has been better than Sen, and Rarga has been better than BiliBili.

Tl;dr - last years first seeds were more finals flukes than teams better over the split.

Note 2 - 100T doing anything well is a fluke and all of yall damn well know that.

I'd rather pick PRX than Sen at 2nd. Yeah, paper rex are unpredictable, but the Sen map Veto's have been so sus that I wouldn't risk it. That sick fuck Kaplan is more unpredictable than Paper Rex.

Also, PRX have shown 6/7 maps and are very unlikely to switch their comps up mid tourney. Sen have shown 4, and haven't played Pearl which might be their best map.

I think it's just EG vs PRX

Yes, PRX won a map, but they got blown out on a map too. The EG v fnatic and Gambit vs Envy games all had close OT maps and a max round gap of 5 and 4 respectively. The closest map in the EG v PRX series was their (prx) map win.

I think the only team in groups that they'd lose to is Gen.G, but I also think every team but G2 likely gets 2-0'd by Gen.G (G2 get one map).

Penny may be the goat.

6-0 FB against a team like MIBR is insane.

Serial is like a worse Less. Less solo wins you 4 rounds and solo throws 2. Setial solo wins you 2 and solo loses you 4.

Tenz at his peak won a masters as a top 2 player on your team.When Skuba wins a trophy we can talk. If NRG ever win a trophy, it'll be on his back.

You can't bring up "win a trophy" for too many player conversations, but if the player was ingrained into the success of the team like Tenz was for that Sen roster, they you have to step up and do that for your team to be compared. I'll take Paint over Deffo, but ain't no way we having conversations between Nats and lux_uo.

I think baiting is and should be a genuine strat for competative valorant. The macro ideologies at the moment are either maximizing the rounds your team can win a round, or maximizing the opportunities for a player to win a round. Most top level teams try to balance those approaches, but you can be a solid middling team with upset potential if you just hope the entire time that one of your two good players just wins the game. Like that's the entire macro idea of CS - have 3 bodies to toss util and clutch like one 1v2, and have your cracked zoomer rifling and cracked zoomer op-ing to just win the rest of the rounds. It's less effective in val because of the util potency, but it's basically all Lev did last year, and they peaked at 3rd globally. I think it's fine to just toss people at a wall to give a top aimer advantaged aimfights. 3 advantaged fights and one 50/50 is better than praying your best player gets a 2-for-1 on a perfectly set up entry.

1. Green Beans. The peak of vegi's. They can be a main or a pure side. They can be enjoyed to the max grilled, steamed, or garden fresh. Whenever I want a snack in the summer time, my go to is just a bowl of green beans.

2. Brussel Sprouts. Underrated, overhated. Great balance of taste and texture, and the innate class gives some bonus points. Lacks versatility, but brussels are such a good talent.

3. Lettuce. Contribution to salad hard carries, but it's too fundamental to my diet not to place top 3.

Haven C Long pure gun duel I'd put her top 10, not top 5.

He's genuinely playing in Best in the World form (keyword, form). But like actually bro is frying and carrying this team on controller / alt duelist. Like the EMEA stats for him are insane.